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gyldenlove · 11-12-2012, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Boobs McGee

WOW. And the easy part of our schedule has just begun! Record breakin time!!!

I recently had a discussion with several other non-Bronco NFL fans about how unfair it is that Von Miller is listed as a 4-3 SLB because no other SLB has a shot at getting named to any all-pro team.

Dr. Broncenstein · 11-12-2012, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mkporter

Von's safety dance was his best yet. Sooooo funny.

He can dance if he wants to. He can leave his friends behind.

Popps · 11-12-2012, 11:57 AM

Anyone GIF the car-crash hit yet? The one where Von shot through the gap and basically just ran him over. Think it was early in the 4th?

Pretty please?

LongDongJohnson · 11-12-2012, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lonestar

Yes I think I would. Miller is great but JJ is better. IMO

Miller had a great great day. No doubt about it

Please do not get heart broken over it. Because your petty snipes mean nothing to me.

In your non expert arm chair opinion.

No one is heart broken. But the fact you would take a player over Miller without even thinking about it is laughable.

Miller right now is having a DPOY type season.

Bronco Rob · 11-18-2012, 08:40 PM

Miller: Three sacks for 29 yards in losses, two tackles for losses, two forced fumbles.

DivineLegion · 11-18-2012, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco Rob

Miller: Three sacks for 29 yards in losses, two tackles for losses, two forced fumbles.

This is by far my favorite Von Sack dance.

Bronco Rob · 11-18-2012, 10:01 PM

Loved the missed assignment by the line when Rivers tried to make a pre snap adjustment.

lonestar · 11-18-2012, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LongDongJohnson

In your non expert arm chair opinion.

No one is heart broken. But the fact you would take a player over Miller without even thinking about it is laughable.

Miller right now is having a DPOY type season.

He has had two outstanding games against two teams with lousy olines, one with a QB in a sophomore slump at best the other with a hot and cold QB..

Watts has played pretty consistent ball all year..

I'll bet that nationwide a hell of a lot more folks would take Watt over Miller also.

Both aree going wreak havoc for years. One from DE the other from OLB. Frankly Miller seems to have improved more this year becoming a more complete player as last year they would run the ball past him while he was going for the sack.

I'm glad he is a bronco. But still Not sure why anyone that is not a complete homer would not be ok with a fan thinking that Watt is better.

g6matty · 11-18-2012, 10:58 PM

does sack also count as a TFL

Bronco Rob · 11-19-2012, 09:55 AM

gyldenlove · 11-19-2012, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by g6matty

does sack also count as a TFL

Depends who is counting - in most statistics they are separate things but typically during draft prep they add the two together when talking about defenders.

Drunken.Broncoholic · 11-19-2012, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by g6matty

does sack also count as a TFL

I think it is a TFL if its a QB designed run

Bronco Rob · 11-20-2012, 03:22 AM

Von Miller was the Broncos’ most dominant player Sunday, even with Peyton Manning as his teammate.

That’s no surprise. Miller might be the NFL’s best defensive player. Better than J.J. Watt, the Texans’ splendid defensive end. Better than Charles Tillman, the Bears cornerback who has turned forcing fumbles into an art form.

att and Tillman both had a terrific September and October. But Miller is having a November to remember. Miller’s performance Sunday was sensational. He had three sacks, two forced fumbles and two tackles for a loss, leading the Broncos to a 30-23 victory over the Chargers.

Miller now leads the NFL with 13 sacks. He has seven in the last three games. In only his second season, Miller has joined Reggie White, Dwight Freeney, and Javon Kearse as the only four players with 11 sacks or more during their first two seasons.

When Miller comes roaring off the edge from his outside linebacker position, he invokes memories of his idol, Derrick Thomas, the late Chiefs’ Hall of Fame linebacker. Miller wears No. 58 in honor of Thomas. The legacy is being upheld in glorious fashion.

Miller is the most important defensive player on a Broncos’ team that looks like a legit Super Bowl contender. If the Broncos are going to do damage in the playoffs, they need a defense that can rattle quarterbacks like Tom Brady, Matt Schaub and Ben Roethlisberger.

A dominant pass rusher is the best way to neutralize quarterbacks in today’s pass-happy NFL. Miller gives the Broncos that guy. Even when he doesn’t get a sack, Miller can cause havoc. His best play in Sunday’s game led to an interception by safety Jim Leonhard. Miller shed off a chip block, made his way through inside traffic, and got close enough to Rivers to force a mistake. Rivers unloaded the football early, before Miller could unload. But the presence of Miller caused Rivers to throw a pick, which was worse than taking a sack.

Miller loves to dance after sacks, which means he’s gotten plenty of practice perfecting his moves. Maybe a spot on "Dancing with the Stars" is in Miller’s future. At the very least, Miller’s national profile is rising. Watching the Broncos isn’t just about watching what Manning will do next. It’s about watching Miller.

Miller probably won’t win the MVP award. Defensive players have a hard time doing that.

However, the Broncos clearly have two MVP candidates, one on each side of the ball. We already knew how good Manning was. Now we’re finding out how good Miller is, too.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/stor...s-jj-watt-news

Bronco Rob · 11-21-2012, 01:49 AM

Only Jack Lambert and Lawrence Taylor have won defensive rookie of the year and Defensive player of the year in back-to-back years.

Bronco Rob · 11-22-2012, 02:50 AM

Panthers' Cam Newton or Broncos' Von Miller: Who was better draft pick?

Read more: Panthers' Cam Newton or Broncos' Von Miller: Who was better draft pick? - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...#ixzz2Cwngxjil
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Bronco Rob · 12-05-2012, 10:21 AM

CEH · 12-05-2012, 10:27 AM

What happened to the vaunted CHI Defense. They are really regressing when they don't get the turnovers and have to play defense from behind

Von is rolling and I hope the D shows up against Baltimore. Watt will be on TV this week against NE

Bronco Rob · 12-05-2012, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CEH

What happened to the vaunted CHI Defense. They are really regressing when they don't get the turnovers and have to play defense from behind

Von is rolling and I hope the D shows up against Baltimore. Watt will be on TV this week against NE

Thank you Elway for dumping allen and hiring Jack Del Rio!

baja · 12-05-2012, 07:22 PM

Washington has a good shot at beating the Ravens this week.

baja · 12-05-2012, 07:28 PM

In fact the Ravens may not win another game.

Bronco Rob · 12-07-2012, 04:36 PM

Von Miller’s $25,000 fine raises specter of suspension

Broncos linebacker Von Miller is a candidate for the NFL’s defensive player of the year award. But if he’s not careful, he may soon be a candidate for a suspension as well.

The NFL has confirmed that Miller was fined $25,000 for striking Buccaneers quarterback Josh Freeman below the knee area last week. Miller, who was given a 15-yard penalty for that hit on Freeman, has now been fined enough times for illegal hits that he risks the NFL deciding that fines just aren’t getting the message through to him, and that suspensions are next.

Among Miller’s other fines: He was fined $21,000 for a hit on Cam Newton last month. He was fined $7,500 for a late hit against the Patriots in the playoffs in January. He was fined $25,000 for a hit on Mark Sanchez in November of 2011. And he was fined $15,000 for a hit on Carson Palmer in November of 2011.

That’s five fines in Miller’s last 24 games. The NFL has made clear that it will suspend repeat offenders if fines aren’t getting the point across, and Miller now appears to be a prime candidate for one of those suspensions.

The good news for Miller is that when the NFL fined Ravens safety Ed Reed for his third helmet-to-helmet hit of the last three seasons, Reed won his appeal. But that doesn’t mean the NFL is done handing out suspensions for repeated illegal hits. A suspension of Miller would be a huge blow to the Broncos, but if he keeps racking up fines, a suspension is coming.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...of-suspension/

Bronco Rob · 05-17-2013, 03:23 PM

4. Von Miller, OLB, Denver Broncos (12th)

Miller isn’t your conventional 4-3 outside linebacker, moving into a pass rushing role in sub package defense that saw him spend only 24% of his passing snaps in coverage. However, as the 86 combined sacks, hits and hurries show, he delivers in that role, while adding a further 15 tackles for losses. You simply need to watch out for Miller on every play — if you don’t, he’s likely to hurt you.

Best Performance: Week 5 at New England, +12.3

Key Stat: Missed only three tackles all year.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...12-the-top-10/

DENVERDUI55 · 05-17-2013, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by baja

In fact the Ravens may not win another game.

Whoops!

TheReverend · 05-17-2013, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gyldenlove

I recently had a discussion with several other non-Bronco NFL fans about how unfair it is that Von Miller is listed as a 4-3 SLB because no other SLB has a shot at getting named to any all-pro team.

No 43 SLB had a chance anyway. Those teams get filled up with 3-4 OLBs and the OCCASIONAL guy like Lance Briggs that's just dominating the weak side.

By the time it's all said and done, honors teams are a bunch of apples to oranges comparisons.

baja · 05-17-2013, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55

Whoops!

now there is a miss in grand fashion.

11-18-2012, 08:40 PM	#80
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11-12-2012, 11:57 AM	#78
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,785	Anyone GIF the car-crash hit yet? The one where Von shot through the gap and basically just ran him over. Think it was early in the 4th? Pretty please?

11-18-2012, 10:01 PM	#82
Bronco Rob Ring of Famer There's A New Sheriff In Town Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 4,587 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bill Vinovich	Loved the missed assignment by the line when Rivers tried to make a pre snap adjustment.

11-18-2012, 10:58 PM	#84
g6matty Pro Bowler "i had dreams of confetti..." Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 742	does sack also count as a TFL

11-19-2012, 09:55 AM	#85
Bronco Rob Ring of Famer There's A New Sheriff In Town Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 4,587 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bill Vinovich

11-20-2012, 03:22 AM	#88
Bronco Rob Ring of Famer There's A New Sheriff In Town Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 4,587 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bill Vinovich	Von Miller was the Broncos’ most dominant player Sunday, even with Peyton Manning as his teammate. That’s no surprise. Miller might be the NFL’s best defensive player. Better than J.J. Watt, the Texans’ splendid defensive end. Better than Charles Tillman, the Bears cornerback who has turned forcing fumbles into an art form. att and Tillman both had a terrific September and October. But Miller is having a November to remember. Miller’s performance Sunday was sensational. He had three sacks, two forced fumbles and two tackles for a loss, leading the Broncos to a 30-23 victory over the Chargers. Miller now leads the NFL with 13 sacks. He has seven in the last three games. In only his second season, Miller has joined Reggie White, Dwight Freeney, and Javon Kearse as the only four players with 11 sacks or more during their first two seasons. When Miller comes roaring off the edge from his outside linebacker position, he invokes memories of his idol, Derrick Thomas, the late Chiefs’ Hall of Fame linebacker. Miller wears No. 58 in honor of Thomas. The legacy is being upheld in glorious fashion. Miller is the most important defensive player on a Broncos’ team that looks like a legit Super Bowl contender. If the Broncos are going to do damage in the playoffs, they need a defense that can rattle quarterbacks like Tom Brady, Matt Schaub and Ben Roethlisberger. A dominant pass rusher is the best way to neutralize quarterbacks in today’s pass-happy NFL. Miller gives the Broncos that guy. Even when he doesn’t get a sack, Miller can cause havoc. His best play in Sunday’s game led to an interception by safety Jim Leonhard. Miller shed off a chip block, made his way through inside traffic, and got close enough to Rivers to force a mistake. Rivers unloaded the football early, before Miller could unload. But the presence of Miller caused Rivers to throw a pick, which was worse than taking a sack. Miller loves to dance after sacks, which means he’s gotten plenty of practice perfecting his moves. Maybe a spot on "Dancing with the Stars" is in Miller’s future. At the very least, Miller’s national profile is rising. Watching the Broncos isn’t just about watching what Manning will do next. It’s about watching Miller. Miller probably won’t win the MVP award. Defensive players have a hard time doing that. However, the Broncos clearly have two MVP candidates, one on each side of the ball. We already knew how good Manning was. Now we’re finding out how good Miller is, too. http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/stor...s-jj-watt-news

11-21-2012, 01:49 AM	#89
Bronco Rob Ring of Famer There's A New Sheriff In Town Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 4,587 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bill Vinovich	Only Jack Lambert and Lawrence Taylor have won defensive rookie of the year and Defensive player of the year in back-to-back years.

11-22-2012, 02:50 AM	#90
Bronco Rob Ring of Famer There's A New Sheriff In Town Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 4,587 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bill Vinovich	Panthers' Cam Newton or Broncos' Von Miller: Who was better draft pick? Read more: Panthers' Cam Newton or Broncos' Von Miller: Who was better draft pick? - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...#ixzz2Cwngxjil Read The Denver Post's Terms of Use of its content: http://www.denverpost.com/termsofuse

12-05-2012, 10:21 AM	#91
Bronco Rob Ring of Famer There's A New Sheriff In Town Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 4,587 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bill Vinovich

12-05-2012, 10:27 AM	#92
CEH Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,208	What happened to the vaunted CHI Defense. They are really regressing when they don't get the turnovers and have to play defense from behind Von is rolling and I hope the D shows up against Baltimore. Watt will be on TV this week against NE

12-05-2012, 07:22 PM	#94
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,745 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Washington has a good shot at beating the Ravens this week.

12-05-2012, 07:28 PM	#95
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,745 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	In fact the Ravens may not win another game.

12-07-2012, 04:36 PM	#96
Bronco Rob Ring of Famer There's A New Sheriff In Town Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 4,587 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bill Vinovich	Von Miller’s $25,000 fine raises specter of suspension Broncos linebacker Von Miller is a candidate for the NFL’s defensive player of the year award. But if he’s not careful, he may soon be a candidate for a suspension as well. The NFL has confirmed that Miller was fined $25,000 for striking Buccaneers quarterback Josh Freeman below the knee area last week. Miller, who was given a 15-yard penalty for that hit on Freeman, has now been fined enough times for illegal hits that he risks the NFL deciding that fines just aren’t getting the message through to him, and that suspensions are next. Among Miller’s other fines: He was fined $21,000 for a hit on Cam Newton last month. He was fined $7,500 for a late hit against the Patriots in the playoffs in January. He was fined $25,000 for a hit on Mark Sanchez in November of 2011. And he was fined $15,000 for a hit on Carson Palmer in November of 2011. That’s five fines in Miller’s last 24 games. The NFL has made clear that it will suspend repeat offenders if fines aren’t getting the point across, and Miller now appears to be a prime candidate for one of those suspensions. The good news for Miller is that when the NFL fined Ravens safety Ed Reed for his third helmet-to-helmet hit of the last three seasons, Reed won his appeal. But that doesn’t mean the NFL is done handing out suspensions for repeated illegal hits. A suspension of Miller would be a huge blow to the Broncos, but if he keeps racking up fines, a suspension is coming. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...of-suspension/

05-17-2013, 03:23 PM	#97
Bronco Rob Ring of Famer There's A New Sheriff In Town Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 4,587 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bill Vinovich	4. Von Miller, OLB, Denver Broncos (12th) Miller isn’t your conventional 4-3 outside linebacker, moving into a pass rushing role in sub package defense that saw him spend only 24% of his passing snaps in coverage. However, as the 86 combined sacks, hits and hurries show, he delivers in that role, while adding a further 15 tackles for losses. You simply need to watch out for Miller on every play — if you don’t, he’s likely to hurt you. Best Performance: Week 5 at New England, +12.3 Key Stat: Missed only three tackles all year. https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...12-the-top-10/