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Old 11-20-2012, 01:24 PM   #101
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There's a lot of people that look really silly from this thread. Even Footsteps said we shouldn't take him at number 2 and he was advocating for him. Shanahanan and Alchemical...lol
I'll be honest, the thought of the team whiffing on that pick terrified me. I probably advocated A.J. Green more than anyone else for that reason.

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Old 11-20-2012, 02:02 PM   #102
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I don't know if that makes me look silly or not, since I was just asking whether the guy could also play the middle, hardly a criticism to ask if a guy is versitile. I also said that while I preferred Peterson, I'd take Miller a few picks later. This is pretty much the same situation as the draft that had Deon Sanders and Derrick Thomas in it. Which one would you want? In retrospect it's tough to say but it probably come down to what your defense needs most at the time. In hindsight I'm now glad (obviously) that we went with Miller because he's supplied a pass rush that we havne't had before and it's changed the face of the defense, but Peterson is also a stud corner who will be in the HOF one day if he stays healthy, not to mention he has Sanders-like return ability. If the draft were held again I'd take Miller first but that's why we have these debates anyway.
Well this was pretty early in the evaultation. By the time the draft came, Miller had moved up a lot of boards. That's why digging up old threads like these is a bit unfair. We've all looked stupid at some point.

That said, it's looking like the 2011 draft is one of the most epic ones in a long time.
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:04 PM   #103
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I'll be honest, the thought of the team whiffing on that pick terrified me. I probably advocated A.J. Green more than anyone else for that reason.

Pleased to be wrong.
Green, Peterson, Dareus, Julio Jones, Aldon Smith, JJ Watt, Fairley, Pouncey, Kerrigan - There were a lot of really, really good players we could have taken that year. We picked a good year to pick high.
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:09 PM   #104
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Well this was pretty early in the evaultation. By the time the draft came, Miller had moved up a lot of boards. That's why digging up old threads like these is a bit unfair. We've all looked stupid at some point.

That said, it's looking like the 2011 draft is one of the most epic ones in a long time.
If Irving Thomas and Green continue to progress it will be EPIC ++++

http://broncotalk.net/2011/04/22307/...draft-results/


Who were our undrafted free agents that year?
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:11 PM   #105
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Green, Peterson, Dareus, Julio Jones, Aldon Smith, JJ Watt, Fairley, Pouncey, Kerrigan - There were a lot of really, really good players we could have taken that year. We picked a good year to pick high.
I've wondered what the team would like if we traded back into the first to get Fairley.
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:15 PM   #106
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2011 was a very good class.

I think the 2013 class could be a very good group too that can compete with 2011.

There are a ton of really good defensive prospects all accross the board in 2013. I think there could be a lot of really good pass rushers and safeties coming out.
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:32 PM   #107
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I've wondered what the team would like if we traded back into the first to get Fairley.
He's been ok, not awesome. Can you imagine if we got JJ Watt, though...
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Old 11-20-2012, 03:22 PM   #108
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You sure you're not a hater? Because the past year and a half that's what you labelled people who had well founded doubts and concerns about another player.
God you are such a dip****...
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Old 11-20-2012, 03:47 PM   #109
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Haters gonna hate....
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Old 11-20-2012, 04:25 PM   #110
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Old 11-20-2012, 05:10 PM   #111
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What is Dave Razzano doing today?

Good for us I would think.

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Old 11-21-2012, 01:20 AM   #112
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The person that should get respect is John Elway. People over time will forget that Von was not the slam dunk pick that people will think he was.

Everyone will say we had the 2nd pick in the draft. Von was great in college. They will say it was a no brainer pick. It really wasn't.

Beyond this thread there was also a tremendous amount of talk at the time about Von being a great player...but not for our system. There was a lot of doubt. There was a lot of other great players worthy of that pick.

Many, many, many teams would have screwed it up. John didn't.

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No love for Brian Xanders? j/k

While I don't disagree with anything you said, this pick has John Fox written all over it. He would've been the one to convince Elway that Miller could be used effectively in his 4-3, and would have more impact than drafting the "safe" pick that was Marcell Darius.
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He's been ok, not awesome. Can you imagine if we got JJ Watt, though...
That would be a sick combo!
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Old 11-21-2012, 10:07 AM   #114
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Miller is the dpow for the second time this year
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How many DPOW does JJ Watt have?

JJ Watt what a great football name.
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:08 PM   #116
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Fun bump.

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Old 11-21-2012, 12:34 PM   #117
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Dennis Allen is floundering in Oaktown and whispers of his dimissal have already begun to emerge - right on queue. He would have benefited from a few years under Fox.
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Dennis Allen is floundering in Oaktown and whispers of his dimissal have already begun to emerge - right on queue. He would have benefited from a few years under Fox.
Honesty if we had a need for a secondary coach I would bring Allen back to Denver. He did some good things with the Saints secondary.
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Honesty if we had a need for a secondary coach I would bring Allen back to Denver. He did some good things with the Saints secondary.
He'll get another DC job somewhere.
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