Stokely just said on NFLN Moreno.......

[fwf]

Originally Posted by baja

It's encouraging that you don't think much of him. That means he will be great.

I never talked bad about Moreno. I just said dont expect him to get 20 carries and 100 yds next week. My point was .. the coaches dont think much of him. Which is what we should be discussing. That and if Ball can be effective.

[razorwire77]

Honestly, I hope they give Hillman every opportunity to get the bulk of the carries and get something going. Best case scenario is that the lights go off for Hillman and he can start utilizing his quickness and speed more effectively. I'd love for him to break a couple of long ones and have the game slow down a bit. He's not going to be Walter Payton, but if he could do a semi-decent Jamal Charles impersonation we'll be fine. If not, it's just going to have to be a patchwork rotation (probably until we draft a back next year.)

[DENVERDUI55]

Moreno will just be used for his dancing and pelvic thrusts in blowouts.

[fwf]

Originally Posted by razorwire77

Honestly, I hope they give Hillman every opportunity to get the bulk of the carries and get something going. Best case scenario is that the lights go off for Hillman and he can start utilizing his quickness and speed more effectively.

This might be a good idea if/when we get up big next week

[Kid A]

Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic

It's not out of the ordinary to see someone lose their job in sports, sit on the bench, then come back with a better passion for the game.

I'll go on record as optimistic about Moreno filling in, but I never felt like a lack of passion was his issue, especially last year when he had been demoted for McGahee. He was running hard through to the end of plays and looked determined...until his knee blew out. His ability to pass block and hold on to the ball will determine if he gets the bulk of the carries.

[Bacchus]

When this season started I said this offense would be tailor made for Moreno. If Moreno cannot succeed in this offense he was no good. Then he comes in an fumbles the first game of the year.

I still maintain this though. I think Moreno could be pretty good lets see what he can do AND instead of brining in Steve Slayton or anyone else they need to take Johnson off the practice squad and give him a chance.

[SonOfLe-loLang]

Originally Posted by fwf

So lets hear why Moreno should get more carries then Ball. Seriously.

Because Ball sucks.

Done

[Rabb]

Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

Because Ball sucks.

Done

Yeah, I really don't see how anyone watching Ball this year can be really confident about him over KM.

[Rohirrim]

Excellent! I'm sure KM knows this is his last shot at an NFL career. He's going to destroy Mullethead Stadium. At the end of this one, there will be nothing left but mustard and ketchup stained grass.

[peacepipe]

Originally Posted by cmhargrove

You really believe this?

Moreno has at least been a starting running back at some point in his career. Do you really think Ball has the talent to be an 80 yard per game rusher? I'm afraid he's not going to be our next Reuben Droughns. Moreno is a much better option, and the fact tha McGahee has been fumbling will lower expectations (sadly).

Ball seems like a great guy, he really does, but he has never shown he is ready to be a starting running back.

niether has noshow moreno

[s0phr0syne]

From what I saw this season, KM's inactivity was a function of the numbers game. Knowshon and McGahee were playing too similarly in this offense to keep both of them active. Obviously, Willis has the edge in talent and production, but I wouldn't say it was a huge disparity. If Knowshon had been playing ST, I really think that he would have been active over Ball.

But Ball does play ST, he's on Punt and Kickoff. As a result he was active because he brought more value. With McGahee out, I fully expect KM to be the next man up and to do a damn good job at it.

My post is full of "I thinks", so there's not really a huge amount of objective information to back this up, but I look forward to the rubber meeting the road this weekend against the Chiefs.

[RedskinBronco]

Time to step up Moreno. Do it.

[Hamrob]

Yep....the team thinks so highly of Moreno...that they brought Steve Slaton (and others) in for a workout today. Hmm.

[Bronco X]

"It feels good to be back, but you hate to see a teammate go down with an injury," said Moreno, who was inactive in the past eight games. "That really hurts. But at the same time, we have a lot of capable guys in the backfield that can get the job done for this team also."

Read more: Broncos' Willis McGahee out 6-8 weeks with MCL tear; compression fracture - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_...#ixzz2CicUoPJG
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Moreno is already talking about being back. I suspect they will go with the Moreno/Hillman/Ball trio and see if they can be productive before they sign anyone off the street. I wasn't sure how deep in the doghouse Moreno was... not deep enough to keep him there under present circumstances apparently. Hope he makes the most of what could be his final opportunity.

[Bacchus]

Originally Posted by Hamrob

Yep....the team thinks so highly of Moreno...that they brought Steve Slaton (and others) in for a workout today. Hmm.

This says more about Johnson on the practice squad than anything. Instead of bringing him up on the roster they are going to sign someone else??

Johnson is by far the fastest RB I think he needs a chance.

[Old Dude]

I give him 40 carries before he gets hurt and goes to IR.

[kappys]

I think Hillman took Moreno's job not Ball. Ball being active had a lot to do with his special teams contributions - hard to have your 3rd RB active if he doesn't also contribute on ST

[errand]

Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic

It's not out of the ordinary to see someone lose their job in sports, sit on the bench, then come back with a better passion for the game.

Worked in 1983 for our rookie QB who was benched after starting slowly and looking lost....later he took over when other guy got hurt and played much better

[Bacchus]

Originally Posted by errand

Worked in 1983 for our rookie QB who was benched after starting slowly and looking lost....later he took over when other guy got hurt and played much better

that guy was a scrub.

[peacepipe]

Originally Posted by s0phr0syne

From what I saw this season, KM's inactivity was a function of the numbers game. Knowshon and McGahee were playing too similarly in this offense to keep both of them active. Obviously, Willis has the edge in talent and production, but I wouldn't say it was a huge disparity. If Knowshon had been playing ST, I really think that he would have been active over Ball.

But Ball does play ST, he's on Punt and Kickoff. As a result he was active because he brought more value. With McGahee out, I fully expect KM to be the next man up and to do a damn good job at it.

My post is full of "I thinks", so there's not really a huge amount of objective information to back this up, but I look forward to the rubber meeting the road this weekend against the Chiefs.

they're two completely differant RBS. KM is a change of pace RB like hillman.

[Bacchus]

Originally Posted by peacepipe

they're two completely differant RBS. KM is a change of pace RB like hillman.

Moreno seems to have more power and agility than Hillman at this point in their careers.

[s0phr0syne]

Originally Posted by peacepipe

they're two completely differant RBS. KM is a change of pace RB like hillman.

Change-of-pace typically refers to players who bring speed to the table. Knowshon's Slowshon moniker is not for nothing. if by "change of pace" you're referring to an inability to carry the load, I'd have you look at the fact that McGahee was basically tapping out after every 2-3 runs anyway, so we haven't had a bell-cow back all season. I think the status quo will be very much intact.

I honestly don't think see McGahee and Knowshon as being that much different, but our discussion here won't prove it one way or the other. Just gonna have to see what happens Sunday!

[peacepipe]

Originally Posted by s0phr0syne

Change-of-pace typically refers to players who bring speed to the table. Knowshon's Slowshon moniker is not for nothing. if by "change of pace" you're referring to an inability to carry the load, I'd have you look at the fact that McGahee was basically tapping out after every 2-3 runs anyway, so we haven't had a bell-cow back all season. I think the status quo will be very much intact.

I honestly don't think see McGahee and Knowshon as being that much different, but our discussion here won't prove it one way or the other. Just gonna have to see what happens Sunday!

let me put it this way,KM is a 3rd down RB. like hillman. he's not an every down back,never was.

[canadianbroncosfan]

JJ37 please

[baja]

Originally Posted by Old Dude

I give him 40 carries before he gets hurt and goes to IR.

I think that is why they have kept him safe on the inactive list hoping he would finish out the season if and when needed.