Broncos RB Willis McGahee to have MRI on right knee Monday

[errand]

Originally Posted by baja

Willis is one player we can ill afford to lose.

We don't have a player that can bring what he does, not even close.

We can always draft Sam Gordon.......

[troya900]

Well its as perfect timing if there ever was. Morena can come in and have her once-a-year good game against the chefs.

[DBroncos4life]

Originally Posted by pricejj

McGahee ran a 4.28 at Miami, and was timed at a 4.45 average coming into the league.

You don't think he runs that fast now do you? I don't agree with a thing he says but, lets be real McGahee speed has faded.

[SoCalBronco]

Originally Posted by errand

We can always draft Sam Gordon.......

She's the female Duke Johnson....awesome

[errand]

Originally Posted by Vine

The Broncos running game was going well until McGahee went down. After that, running was a struggle. If McGahee is out, then Denver will need to find a running back to add to their roster, or activate Know-Show. Please not the latter!

Hillman and Ball combined for 78 yards on 18 carries....4.3 per carry....and keep in mind on the last 3 carries the Chargers knew we were gonna run it and had 9 in the box....

While i agree we need to find a franchise RB next season, we gotta go into battle with the ones we got. Ball and Hillman and Moreno (if McGahee is out) will hopefully be good enough to make teams respect the run game.

[errand]

Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

She's the female Duke Johnson....awesome

she's good, but she's nowhere near as good as Becky "Icebox" O'Shea out of Urbania.....

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Dumervil thread 2.0

[Bladerunner]

I don't understand the folks that watch these games and conclude that McGahee is an average or below average back...he's freaking awesome in this offense...He doesn't have the game breaking speed, no doubt, but this offense doesn't need its RB to be the game breaker...what he does bring that Hilman and Ball do not is outstanding vision, peerless patience with the blocking, and heavy, heavy pads when its time to go down...it's not that his average gain is so much better than our alternative, its that his variance is so much lower...when he always gets 3-5, it forces the backers and safeties to adjust and then they lose...conversely, a 12 yard run is great, but if it is followed by a 3 yard loss, you are looking at throwing into coverage for the next tow downs...Willis isn't sexy, but he's really good at both blocking and running in this single back set offense...much better than our backups...I hope he isn't hurt badly and is back soon.

[baja]

Originally Posted by Bladerunner

I don't understand the folks that watch these games and conclude that McGahee is an average or below average back...he's freaking awesome in this offense...He doesn't have the game breaking speed, no doubt, but this offense doesn't need its RB to be the game breaker...what he does bring that Hilman and Ball do not is outstanding vision, peerless patience with the blocking, and heavy, heavy pads when its time to go down...it's not that his average gain is so much better than our alternative, its that his variance is so much lower...when he always gets 3-5, it forces the backers and safeties to adjust and then they lose...conversely, a 12 yard run is great, but if it is followed by a 3 yard loss, you are looking at throwing into coverage for the next tow downs...Willis isn't sexy, but he's really good at both blocking and running in this single back set offense...much better than our backups...I hope he isn't hurt badly and is back soon.

Good points but he needs to address the fumbles obviously. That's my only concern with him.

[pricejj]

Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

You don't think he runs that fast now do you? I don't agree with a thing he says but, lets be real McGahee speed has faded.

I bet McGahee still runs in the 4.4's no problem. He's a top 12 NFL RB. Without him, this team goes nowhere.

People talking stuff about him are freaking clueless. He has dropped the rock a couple times early in the year, and now teams are cueing in on all the Broncos Offensive players trying to strip the ball. It's their only chance to win. That's why you keep seeing fumbles.

McGahee is on pace for about 1200 yards this year...meanwhile none of our other RB's can pick up a 1st down.

[baja]

He was very effective Sunday against the #2 (at the time) defense against the run.

55 yards on 7 carries is almost 8 yards a carry. Who wouldn't take that?

[NFLBRONCO]

Originally Posted by pricejj

I bet McGahee still runs in the 4.4's no problem. He's a top 12 NFL RB. Without him, this team goes nowhere.

People talking stuff about him are freaking clueless. He has dropped the rock a couple times early in the year, and now teams are cueing in on all the Broncos Offensive players trying to strip the ball. It's their only chance to win. That's why you keep seeing fumbles.

McGahee is on pace for about 1200 yards this year...meanwhile none of our other RB's can pick up a 1st down.

I agree

Without Kuper and Willis this offense will struggle in postseason.

[lonestar]

Originally Posted by pricejj

I bet McGahee still runs in the 4.4's no problem. He's a top 12 NFL RB. Without him, this team goes nowhere.

People talking stuff about him are freaking clueless. He has dropped the rock a couple times early in the year, and now teams are cueing in on all the Broncos Offensive players trying to strip the ball. It's their only chance to win. That's why you keep seeing fumbles.

McGahee is on pace for about 1200 yards this year...meanwhile none of our other RB's can pick up a 1st down.

Good post and incitful.

If you go back to any of their runs and for that matter Trindons they are grabbing at the arms on them all..

fox might want to start having them carry the ball wherever they go at Dove valley. See who can bring him their balls.

Worked on any team I was on the ball carriers all became better at holding on to it.

Once saw a female tennis player take a ball to the coach, guess which RB did not play that week. Never happened again. She was that good an athlete he tried to recruit her. She wound up a state tennis champion.

[Natedogg]

Originally Posted by lonestar

Good post and incitful.

If you go back to any of their runs and for that matter Trindons they are grabbing at the arms on them all..

fox might want to start having them carry the ball wherever they go at Dove valley. See who can bring him their balls.

Worked on any team I was on the ball carriers all became better at holding on to it.

Once saw a female tennis player take a ball to the coach, guess which RB did not play that week. Never happened again. She was that good an athlete he tried to recruit her. She wound up a state tennis champion.

Mock reincarnated?

[fwf]

Originally Posted by errand

Hillman and Ball combined for 78 yards on 18 carries....4.3 per carry....and keep in mind on the last 3 carries the Chargers knew we were gonna run it and had 9 in the box....

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Yep and Ball chucked and out ran a few defenders along the way. When's the last time McGahee has ran away from anyone?

The people who are defending McGahee are probably the same people who were on Tebow's nuts last year. We shouldnt make allegiances to the players, only the jersey

[Requiem]

Originally Posted by Natedogg

Mock reincarnated?

Do not insult Mock ever again.

[socalorado]

Originally Posted by fwf

Yep and Ball chucked and out ran a few defenders along the way. When's the last time McGahee has ran away from anyone?

The people who are defending McGahee are probably the same people who were on Tebow's nuts last year. We shouldnt make allegiances to the players, only the jersey

[baja]

Originally Posted by fwf

Yep and Ball chucked and out ran a few defenders along the way. When's the last time McGahee has ran away from anyone?

The people who are defending McGahee are probably the same people who were on Tebow's nuts last year. We shouldnt make allegiances to the players, only the jersey

Most of the knuckle heads have left but I see you decided to stay.

[fwf]

Originally Posted by Bladerunner

I don't understand the folks that watch these games and conclude that McGahee is an average or below average back...he's freaking awesome in this offense...He doesn't have the game breaking speed, no doubt, but this offense doesn't need its RB to be the game breaker...what he does bring that Hilman and Ball do not is outstanding vision, peerless patience with the blocking, and heavy, heavy pads when its time to go down...it's not that his average gain is so much better than our alternative, its that his variance is so much lower...when he always gets 3-5, it forces the backers and safeties to adjust and then they lose...conversely, a 12 yard run is great, but if it is followed by a 3 yard loss, you are looking at throwing into coverage for the next tow downs...Willis isn't sexy, but he's really good at both blocking and running in this single back set offense...much better than our backups...I hope he isn't hurt badly and is back soon.

No mention of fumbles?

Sorry, but its not difficult to find a back who can be successful in a Peyton Manning run offense. Why not find a player who's capable of taking it to the house and holding on to the ball. As well as grinding out the 3-4 yarders like Willis does do well. Theyre out there my friend.
We're limiting how great this team can be.
There's a reason Willis is only making 1million this season.
I like Mcgahee as a guy, but he's not an every down back anymore. And now with this knee injury, its time to see what else we have on the shelf

[fwf]

Originally Posted by lonestar

Good post and incitful.

If you go back to any of their runs and for that matter Trindons they are grabbing at the arms on them all..

Every defender in the league is taught to go after the ball on every play. What are you saying?

What's in the water out there?

[fwf]

Originally Posted by baja

Most of the knuckle heads have left but I see you decided to stay.

We'll see my friend. Think of me, will you, in Jan when McGahee coughs it up in a big time situation.

Im not saying our backups are any kind of world beaters, but they atleast deserve an audition.

[Requiem]

FWF, what are your other accounts on the Mane?

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by baja

He was very effective Sunday against the #2 (at the time) defense against the run.

55 yards on 7 carries is almost 8 yards a carry. Who wouldn't take that?

What I always notice is that when Willis is in the game and the Broncos are running between the tackles, Willis is usually breaking through for the extra yards. Hillman and Ball always seem to get stopped about three or four yards short of where McGahee usually ends up. It's a noticeable difference. McGahee is the best RB on the team. By far.

[baja]

Originally Posted by fwf

We'll see my friend. Think of me, will you, in Jan when McGahee coughs it up in a big time situation.

Im not saying our backups are any kind of world beaters, but they atleast deserve an audition.

Clearly the fumbling is a problem. Everyone agrees with that. Why you are singled out for criticism is the other stuff;

Fox is too conservative

Hillman is a bust.

McGahee is washed up and too slow.

Ball is better than McGahee.

J. Johnson is better than McGahee

That is why you get dumped on. You can be very troll like. That is why I asked you if you are a Bronco fan. You often make what looks like baiting statements.

[baja]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

What I always notice is that when Willis is in the game and the Broncos are running between the tackles, Willis is usually breaking through for the extra yards. Hillman and Ball always seem to get stopped about three or four yards short of where McGahee usually ends up. It's a noticeable difference. McGahee is the best RB on the team. By far.

McGahee has power, vision and patience. That is why he can do those things you point out.

If KM had his vision and patience he'd be a solid back.