Israel bombs playground in Gaza & fires missile into Syria

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by W*GS

Explain to gaffe why Americans should die for Israel.

Heck, explain to all of us.

Prove we are.

[nyuk nyuk]

What I would like to know is how Hamas got their hands on these Iranian Fajr-5 missiles. They didn't have them back in the last Gaza war in 2008 and now they are able to hit Tel Aviv. I cannot help but suspect it has much to do with Obama's blundering of Egypt: He pulls back US support of a man who kept these Islamist militants in check, and now that one faction of these Islamists have taken over the government, we suddenly have Hamas with these shiny new longer-range missiles.

IMO Egypt is Obama's Iran.

I posted this some time ago, a video even if shown only from the Israeli point of view. It explains the history of the conflict in the disputed areas, and the most important thing it does is show how the Arabs were offered multiple times a two-state solution (even with much more land given them than they currently have) and they kept refusing. I find it quite disturbing that pro-Palestinians do not explain these refused offers and treat them like they never existed.

[DAN_BRONCO_FAN]

nyuk they are just gonna see no evil hear no evil speak no evil toward hamas and those terrorists. THEY CANNOT PROCESS THE TRUTH you can stand up here explaining everything to these idiots and they will wont process it and blame isreal and listen to hamas propaganda .
THEY CANNOT PROCESS THE TRUTH but i find it very educational ,what you bring so well keep it up even thou at times i slightly disagree with you ie marijuana

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

I will post from any site that I please. The number one priority is to educate and inform. If a socialist outlet posts a good story -- I'll use it.

Nobody said you can't post from anywhere you please. Just don't be surprised when you're laughed at. Marxist websites are not about educating and informing, they are about fanning collective hatred against the Great Capitalist Pig and nothing more. You won't find anything even NEUTRAL about the US on those sites. You understand that, right? It is in their interest to cast this country and our allies in the worst manner possible. You're old enough to remember the Cold War and understand Communist propaganda.

The question you should be asking is this: Where is the US press? Why do we have to go to alternative outlets -- just to inform ourselves?'

I think the real question is why do you think hostile Marxists are a more valid source than your own countrymen? Frankly, that's pretty ****ed up.

The real issue is why the US press is not doing its job. Of course we know why -- because it's owned by the large corporations/banks -- who want to keep you in the dark.

Your post shows they are succeeding.

MHG

So when I was a Marxist and reading WSWS, the ISR, Worker's World, IAC kangaroo "war crimes" court reports and Michael Parenti, I was getting the straight dope, eh?

There is no question of biases and agendas in the mainstream press, but to posit that a bunch of flaming Marxists who post things strictly from the viewpoint of Marxist class conflict theory with the intent of promoting hatred against the United States is a viable, less hostile alternative is circus-level laughable.

If you want events from a Marxist point of view, you read it. If you don't, you don't. Do you? Do you think your readers do?

[W*GS]

nyuk believes that murder, rape, torture, and every other reprehensible tactic under the sun are acceptable so long as it's our guy and his followers doing those things.

This is where such relativism and immorality leads us:

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

So when I was a Marxist and reading WSWS, the ISR, Worker's World, IAC kangaroo "war crimes" court reports and Michael Parenti

You were a Marxist about as much as you have a vagina.

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by DAN_BRONCO_FAN

nyuk they are just gonna see no evil hear no evil speak no evil toward hamas and those terrorists. THEY CANNOT PROCESS THE TRUTH you can stand up here explaining everything to these idiots and they will wont process it and blame isreal and listen to hamas propaganda .
THEY CANNOT PROCESS THE TRUTH but i find it very educational ,what you bring so well keep it up even thou at times i slightly disagree with you ie marijuana

No, but it's worth explaining anyway. This fake morality of the radical left, once I discovered it, was a big reason why I left the left.

Mainstream US media report well enough negatively about Israel and for Palestinians. CNN alone comes off as a bizarre pro-Palestinian propaganda mill which is rather odd considering the president of it is a Jewish man. You'd think he'd know better. Weird times.

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by W*GS

You were a Marxist about as much as you have a vagina.

Yet again another attempt to derail a thread by a non-responsive ad hominem attack. Kindly refrain from doing so if you can't keep up with the adults, okie?

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

This fake morality of the radical left, once I discovered it, was a big reason why I left the left.

You have no morality.

You'd justify genocide.

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by W*GS

nyuk believes that murder, rape, torture, and every other reprehensible tactic under the sun are acceptable so long as it's our guy and his followers doing those things.

This is where such relativism and immorality leads us:

Ah, selective morality rears its ugly head again. I've already clobbered you in this regard. Either straighten up, be consistent, or shut your trap.

Since you like throwing irrelevant stinkbombs into threads, here's another for you:



How about another?

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

Yet again another attempt to derail a thread by a non-responsive ad hominem attack. Kindly refrain from doing so if you can't keep up with the adults, okie?

I forgot to mention breasts, a uterus, cervix, fallopian tubes, ovaries, labia, etc. etc.

You have all those things, just like you used to be a Marxist.

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by W*GS

You have no morality.

You'd justify genocide.

I don't recall saying Syria had the right to invade Israel and butcher Jews. That's turning a blind eye to an attempted genocide. You must be mistaking me for someone else.

If you want to claim a blind eye to genocide, prove a genocide was taking place to begin with. Just make sure in the process you apply the standard to yourself. That's kind of important...

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

Ah, selective morality rears its ugly head again.

That's all you have - moral relativism.

PS - Obama wasn't Qaddafi's BFF, like Reagan had us be with Saddam. Remember - he used chemical weapons against Kurds and others - and we gave him the ingredients.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

I don't recall saying Syria had the right to invade Israel and butcher Jews.

Whereas Israel has the right to butcher Palestinians.

You believe Americans should die to protect Israel. Should Israelis die to protect America?

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by W*GS

You were a Marxist about as much as you have a vagina.

It's very common for members of the left to deny that anyone was once on the left and quit it. Apparently they think leftist political belief is so unquestionably righteous, that it surpasses even religion; one can turn from Christ but not the political left.

yougottabekiddinme.

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by W*GS

That's all you have - moral relativism.

PS - Obama wasn't Qaddafi's BFF, like Reagan had us be with Saddam. Remember - he used chemical weapons against Kurds and others - and we gave him the ingredients.

More unsourced claims. Hopping from one to another like a kangaroo in heat. Stick to the thread topic, plz.

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by W*GS

Whereas Israel has the right to butcher Palestinians.

You believe Americans should die to protect Israel. Should Israelis die to protect America?

I've asked you what evidence you have that we are "dying for Israel," and you have thus far only reiterated the claim and made several posts of nothing but insults while massaging yourself over what an allegedly highly moral person you are... Again.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

It's very common for members of the left to deny that anyone was once on the left and quit it.

"Marxist" and "left" are not synonyms.

You're not as clever as you think, nor are we as stupid as you think.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

I've asked you what evidence you have that we are "dying for Israel," and you have thus far only reiterated the claim and made several posts of nothing but insults while massaging yourself over what an allegedly highly moral person you are... Again.

You claimed that America had a moral obligation to protect Israel from a Syrian invasion. That means Americans dying for Israel.

Your turn - should Israelis die for America?

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

shocking photos of the bombing of Gaza

This is not for the squeamish. Are images like this being shown on US TV? If not -- why not?

http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle33071.htm

So how often have you shown shocking photos of an Islamist suicide bombing of Israeli civilians? Ever ask why they aren't widely disseminated in the US press?

Many, I'm sure.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

More unsourced claims. Hopping from one to another like a kangaroo in heat. Stick to the thread topic, plz.

Do you deny that Rumsfeld, under the direction of the Reagan administration, met with Saddam Hussein and promised him considerable US aid in his war against Iran? That he was sold the precursors to chemical weapons? That he used chemical weapons against Iraqi Kurds and other of his enemies?

WTF universe are you in?

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by W*GS

"Marxist" and "left" are not synonyms.

You're not as clever as you think, nor are we as stupid as you think.

I've been both a radical leftist and a liberal, having started out as a liberal. Radical left is anyone against capitalism, by definition, including but not limited to Marxists in specific. You're trying to split hairs as a way of defending your baseless claims.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

So how often have you shown shocking photos of an Islamist suicide bombing of Israeli civilians?

How many Palestinian children is one Israeli worth? Provide the formula.

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by W*GS

You claimed that America had a moral obligation to protect Israel from a Syrian invasion. That means Americans dying for Israel.

Your turn - should Israelis die for America?

Uhm, let's see. Well the US participated in helping local Syrians bump off the government. Do we see dead Americans strewn everywhere as a result? Uh, no we don't. You really miss these basic observations, don't you?

Again, where are Americans dying for Israel? You were obviously taking the usual anti-Israel track and referring to the invasion of Iraq in specific and sword-rattling against Iran, just like the rest of the loony left.

[DAN_BRONCO_FAN]

think issy is doing a good job defending it self with out us helping if my history is right several middle east countries tried to defeat Israel by teaming up it didnt go to well for the arabs now did it