Judge Orders teen to attend Church every Sunday for 10 years

[GreasyQtip]

This is insane, Oklahoma is so backwards, This highschooler got in a DUI killed the passenger, the best part, the boy has been attending church regularly his whole life so Church actually already shaped who he has become. Maybe try something new?

http://www.christianpost.com/news/ju...0-years-85071/

I love to see how the Constitution thumpers, there is plenty of reason to keep church and state separate.

The District Attorney's Office will monitor Alred's church attendance. Assistant District Attorney Jim Carnagey said this is not for the first time that the judge has required church attendance with defendants.
Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/ju...e6OZLvi7O2v.99

This would be super easy to overturn, people overturn AA orders because AA is a bible thumping weirdo in itself.

[Requiem]

Meanwhile this judge is probably molesting people in his family. Go figure.

[chadta]

thats messed up

[cutthemdown]

yeah you could probably overturn, then just have judge give you prison time.

[Arkie]

So it's kinda like ordering Broncos fans to mandatory viewing of every Broncos game over the next ten years.

[bowtown]

Originally Posted by GreasyQtip

This is insane, Oklahoma is so backwards, This highschooler got in a DUI killed the passenger, the best part, the boy has been attending church regularly his whole life so Church actually already shaped who he has become. Maybe try something new?

http://www.christianpost.com/news/ju...0-years-85071/

I love to see how the Constitution thumpers, there is plenty of reason to keep church and state separate.



This would be super easy to overturn, people overturn AA orders because AA is a bible thumping weirdo in itself.

Interesting that you chose to leave this part out:

In addition to church attendance, Norman also asked the teenager to wear an ankle bracelet that monitors alcohol consumption; attend victim-impact panels and speak at events about the consequences of drinking and driving; graduate from high school and welding school; attend counseling; and undergo drug and alcohol assessments.

While I'm no big fan of church or organized religion, sometimes you have to work with what you've got. In a situation where you have a tragedy like this, aside from getting the kid help (as I posted above), I think it also makes a lot of sense to keep him in a routine where he is surrounded by a community that can support him and keep an eye on him. In the case of a town on Oklahoma, church is probably the best bet for that.

Maybe you'd just prefer he go rot in jail though? The family of the victim certainly doesn't.

[DAN_BRONCO_FAN]

Originally Posted by Requiem

Meanwhile this judge is probably molesting people in his family. Go figure.

are you shure of that and if i was a judge id order you to attend a strip bar
and its catholic priest thats molest according to the stereotype fool

[lonestar]

Originally Posted by bowtown

Interesting that you chose to leave this part out:



While I'm no big fan of church or organized religion, sometimes you have to work with what you've got. In a situation where you have a tragedy like this, aside from getting the kid help (as I posted above), I think it also makes a lot of sense to keep him in a routine where he is surrounded by a community that can support him and keep an eye on him. In the case of a town on Oklahoma, church is probably the best bet for that.

Maybe you'd just prefer he go rot in jail though? The family of the victim certainly doesn't.

amazing how the bullet points go out for the progressives..

sometimes they forget to add pertinent info like going to jail instead..

so much less sensational..

Also sad people just do not get that some places/states have a higher moral standard than others..

[Jetland]

Originally Posted by lonestar

amazing how the bullet points go out for the progressives..

sometimes they forget to add pertinent info like going to jail instead..

so much less sensational..

Also sad people just do not get that some places/states have a higher moral standard than others..

just when I think you can't top yourself you give us this....
thank you

[lonestar]

Originally Posted by Jetland

just when I think you can't top yourself you give us this....
thank you

Guess the truth hurts.

Not everyone carry their arrogance as well as you do..

In other words get over yourself.

Guess you must be the immoral police.

Ahahahahahahahahaha

[Drek]

Originally Posted by bowtown

Interesting that you chose to leave this part out:



While I'm no big fan of church or organized religion, sometimes you have to work with what you've got. In a situation where you have a tragedy like this, aside from getting the kid help (as I posted above), I think it also makes a lot of sense to keep him in a routine where he is surrounded by a community that can support him and keep an eye on him. In the case of a town on Oklahoma, church is probably the best bet for that.

Maybe you'd just prefer he go rot in jail though? The family of the victim certainly doesn't.

So attending the same "community" he's been in previously (this church) will somehow reduce the chances of him committing the crime he attended while already a part of said "community"?

Awesome logic there.

How 'bout this - the government isn't supposed to get involved in anyone's religious habits and there is zero evidence to support that simply attending church services does anyone a damn bit of good. So instead of giving a judge carte blanche to dictate the daily habits of someone else's life that has no legitimate rewards maybe we take a step back and have him do all the wonderful proven rehab techniques sans-Christian zealotry? That sounds a bit more in line with the Constitution now doesn't it?

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

yeah you could probably overturn, then just have judge give you prison time.

Or better yet, have the judge and DA both disbarred for willfully violating the FIRST AMENDMENT.

[GreasyQtip]

Originally Posted by bowtown

Interesting that you chose to leave this part out:



While I'm no big fan of church or organized religion, sometimes you have to work with what you've got. In a situation where you have a tragedy like this, aside from getting the kid help (as I posted above), I think it also makes a lot of sense to keep him in a routine where he is surrounded by a community that can support him and keep an eye on him. In the case of a town on Oklahoma, church is probably the best bet for that.

Maybe you'd just prefer he go rot in jail though? The family of the victim certainly doesn't.

Well I am glad Drek answered your confusion, I think you missed the point entirely.

1st Surrounded by the same community that has gotten him to this point already.

2nd The other things you bring up as my having "left out" (ankle bracelet) are very common punishments in america and quite common, it is so standard why would I take issue with it? I didn't leave it out because I think this guy got a light punishment. I think he got a strangely religious punishment.

3rd. Government can force me into religion?

Lonestar and You immediately jump to a conclusion that everyone who doesn't think this kid should be forced to go to church therefore thinks he should rot in jail for life?! Drawing conclusions on your own there.

I believe the law should be enforced as it was drawn up, nowhere in the law does it say if you do something wrong you will be forced to go to religious services.

If you feel church is the only community for him there, I would challenge that there are tons of other communities including the normally used AA.

I think you two would have big problems if the judge had said, well you killed this guy and to make make it so you are surrounded by better people we are ordering you never to attend church for 10 years.

If he made an order AGAINST religion Lonestar would nut himself. Next time either of you "defend the constitution" to support your argument, remember that time you didn't.

[GreasyQtip]

Awesome to see Lonestar give you these two gems next to each other. Do you even Read what you write?

Also sad people just do not get that some places/states have a higher moral standard than others..

You hypocrit

Not everyone carry their arrogance as well as you do..

In other words get over yourself.

Guess you must be the immoral police.

Since you are the immoral police, I guess we can all agree that religious places are always the most Moral

[lonestar]

Originally Posted by GreasyQtip

Awesome to see Lonestar give you these two gems next to each other. Do you even Read what you write?



You hypocrit




Since you are the immoral police, I guess we can all agree that religious places are always the most Moral

Seems you are confusing places with morons. But that is what I have come to expect from some of you.

As far as religious places being the most moral. I guess that is what YOU think they are.

Unlike in your perfect little world of absolutes, religious places have humans in them and even though they strive for morality, they still have imperfect folks in them.

Now if you want to use a perfect example of this reverend wrights church that nobama went to would be right up near the top IMHO.

Most knew he was a phony Christian, but then y'all liberals took the hook, line and sinker.

I have football to deal with today so take all the snarky little shots you want I won't be back. since most of the political experts on this football forum are a joke any way.