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Old 11-16-2012, 12:51 PM   #26
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Ro is a typical brain dead American. He uncritically swallows the media version of reality. He never learns. The American people are the most propagandized population on the planet.

You must go deeper to learn what really happened. Most of the time -- you won;t get the full story from the US press.

What you get is heavily filtered.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:54 PM   #27
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I just received this photo of the bombing of Gaza -- by Israel -- from a peace group.
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:01 PM   #28
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man people who defend those Arab palatines Islamic i am just gonna post this for now on

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Old 11-16-2012, 01:02 PM   #29
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It's no coincidence that the latest violence started immediately AFTER the US election.

Netanyahu was hoping that Romney would win. This latest round of violence looks like a deliberate escalation by Netanyahu.

The Palestinians in Gaza have nothing to gain from attacking Israel.

Check out this interview with Norman Finkelstein.

http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle33046.htm
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Old 11-17-2012, 04:13 AM   #30
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As usual, the Israelis try to minimize civilian casualties. And as usual the Arabs don't care how many they kill, just kill, because they're Jews.
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:19 AM   #31
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gaffe is strokin' it like mad. He loves this ****.
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:58 AM   #32
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As usual, the Israelis try to minimize civilian casualties. And as usual the Arabs don't care how many they kill, just kill, because they're Jews.
Great point!

I'm sure if the Arabs had billions of US tax dollars at their disposal they would be more accurate killers.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%...tary_relations

Israel=Accuracy of Petyon Manning
Palestinians= Tim Tebow

Regardless of what "team" you support it's an expensive bloody mess that continually drags the United States down. We've wasted trillions of dollars and thousands of lives because of our allegiance to Israel.

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Old 11-17-2012, 08:16 AM   #33
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I don't know why so many people in here are quick to jump on Gaffney when he is merely pointing out the humanitarian atrocities that Israel has been committing since Jesus had a crew cut. Americans tend to think that Israel can do no harm, when they are by in large one of the biggest culprits of right abuses in the whole entire world. It is quite disgusting.
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Old 11-17-2012, 08:53 AM   #34
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I don't know why so many people in here are quick to jump on Gaffney when he is merely pointing out the humanitarian atrocities that Israel has been committing since Jesus had a crew cut. Americans tend to think that Israel can do no harm, when they are by in large one of the biggest culprits of right abuses in the whole entire world. It is quite disgusting.
The issue isn't quite so "Israel == bad, Palestinians == good" as gaffe makes it out to be.

gaffe is just another Israel-hating (and Jew-hating) idiot.
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Old 11-17-2012, 09:07 AM   #35
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The issue isn't quite so "Israel == bad, Palestinians == good" as gaffe makes it out to be.

gaffe is just another Israel-hating (and Jew-hating) idiot.
I did Nazi that one coming. Anne Frankley, neither did Jew!
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Old 11-17-2012, 09:50 AM   #36
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:35 AM   #37
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The issue isn't quite so "Israel == bad, Palestinians == good" as gaffe makes it out to be.

gaffe is just another Israel-hating (and Jew-hating) idiot.
Wigs can you explain to me why I should support Israel when my country is beyond broke and Israel continually finds itself in a never ending holy war. My tax dollars are shipped to Israel to support their war efforts while we have millions of hungry, homeless and jobless here in America.

What has Israel done for the US lately other than entangle us in more wars,expenses, and American deaths?
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Old 11-17-2012, 11:44 AM   #38
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Wigs can you explain to me why I should support Israel when my country is beyond broke and Israel continually finds itself in a never ending holy war. My tax dollars are shipped to Israel to support their war efforts while we have millions of hungry, homeless and jobless here in America.

What has Israel done for the US lately other than entangle us in more wars,expenses, and American deaths?
You cant say that without being put into Gaffs camp tho, the second you question why you are seen as some Jew hating monster.
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Old 11-17-2012, 12:35 PM   #39
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Wigs can you explain to me why I should support Israel when my country is beyond broke and Israel continually finds itself in a never ending holy war. My tax dollars are shipped to Israel to support their war efforts while we have millions of hungry, homeless and jobless here in America.

What has Israel done for the US lately other than entangle us in more wars,expenses, and American deaths?
I don't think Israel should get US support. They can stand on their own.

But I don't blame them, or the Jews, for all the ills in the world, like gaffe does.
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:08 PM   #40
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What do you mean we should not support them? Does that mean we don't say hey we support the state of israel. Or does it mean we don't sell them weapons. Or does it just mean we will sell them weapons but they have to pay full price for them? WIGS what countries do you think we should support? Or do you support a total withdraw from the world?
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:09 PM   #41
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Also without America assistance Israel would be finished in about 5 yrs. The EU and the UN would flex there antisemetic muscle and probably put sanctions on them. They would be the new Iran.
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:16 PM   #42
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I'd much rather cut off pakistan and egypt before Israel. But we give this money to avoid wars. We figure it gives us some influence in those countries.

I think people are foolish to want to cut it all off. Also much of the aid is just giving them weapons. If we didn't give them weapons we would just have to use our own more. Hell probably be us bombing the Gaza Strip right now.

How would you all react to an outright Muslim invasion. I know its not happening but what if Egypt, Syria, Jordan attacked? Wouldn't most Americans say we should help? Or are we becoming like the Europeans who stood around while jews got butchered?

Thats what the hands off approach gets you. Everyone who wants to withdraw from the world, in 15 yrs you will regret it.

Good thing is even the dem leadership understands that IMO.
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:22 PM   #43
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Old 11-17-2012, 08:50 PM   #45
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I don't think Israel should get US support. They can stand on their own.

But I don't blame them, or the Jews, for all the ills in the world, like gaffe does.
You are a liar.
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Old 11-17-2012, 08:54 PM   #46
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PHOTO: Hamas missile launch pad next to mosque, playground. Civilian factories, gas station also half a block from Fajr-5 firing site.

http://kleinonline.wnd.com/2012/11/1...m-fajr-5-site/

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Old 11-17-2012, 09:06 PM   #47
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typical MO for HAMas that way they can jump up n down screaming oh those evil jews look what they did
as for the hamas supporters ,jews are evil , anti Semites . i give you this again


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Old 11-18-2012, 06:28 AM   #48
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You are a liar.
About what?

Provide details.
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Hey Lonestar, you lying sack of **** -- You don't have me on iggy.

Positive rep from Lonestar: "just one more example of adding nothing pertinent to the conversation.. just more personal attacks.. he is a stain on this forum"

Meant to go to SoCalBronco when I jokingly called him a Jergen. (SoCal gave me positive rep for this).

So Lonestar. Not only are you FOS, you are just retarded.

SoCal knows when I am joking.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:13 PM   #50
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Israel assassinated its own enforcer.

The Hamas leader killed by Israel had been involved in working out a permanent truce -- just before he was targeted. If Israel wanted to coexist in peace- -why did it target the very Palestinian with whom it had been negotiating for 5 years?

This suggests -- as I indicated -- a cold blooded decision by Netanyahu to escalate the violence. It's easy to do -- simply stage the assassination of a high level Hamas leader.

Here is the story from Ha'aretz:

Israeli peace activist: Hamas leader Jabari killed amid talks on long-term truce

Gershon Baskin, who helped mediate between Israel and Hamas in the deal to release Gilad Shalit, says Israel made a mistake that will cost the lives of 'innocent people on both sides.'


http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...emium-1.478085
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