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Old 11-15-2012, 10:31 AM   #201
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You know what? Rather than talking about I'm just going to let the coaching staff decide. This isn't McD or Shanahan, these guys are developing a positive track record.
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:35 AM   #202
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What I don't understand here..

There are clearly people who dislike DJ, as a person and as a player. There are a few people who like DJ. But I am seeing in this thread people who outright hate the guy arguing why he should be cut, and then there are those saying look he can help the team.

At the end of the day it's all about winning a SB, and if that means DJ helps the defense to achieve this goal EVERYONE should be on board!
I'm fairly skeptical of DJ. The off-field stuff is pretty serious. Missing 9 games for his team is pretty serious. OTOH, he's a talented player.

If I were management, I would be prepared to give him a chance to play himself back into the lineup and keep his nose clean. It would be strict liability though. One more DUI, one more off field incident of any kind and I would cut him.
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:38 AM   #203
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From a pure physical perspective, DJ>>Mays>>Brookings

From a complete perspective, Brookings>>>>>>DJ>Mays
One has to wonder if Brooking is so complete why is he always taken of the field for Trevathan on passing downs.
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:48 AM   #204
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I'm fairly skeptical of DJ. The off-field stuff is pretty serious. Missing 9 games for his team is pretty serious. OTOH, he's a talented player.

If I were management, I would be prepared to give him a chance to play himself back into the lineup and keep his nose clean. It would be strict liability though. One more DUI, one more off field incident of any kind and I would cut him.
Lets give him a chance for christ sakes. People change. He has been away from the facility all season and has not gotten in any trouble. How about we judge him by what he does on the field until the end of the season. If the Broncos want to cut him loose than that is fine.
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:50 AM   #205
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One has to wonder if Brooking is so complete why is he always taken of the field for Trevathan on passing downs.
I guess if you really have to wonder there's not much point in talking football with you.
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Old 11-15-2012, 10:58 AM   #206
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I guess if you really have to wonder there's not much point in talking football with you.
No I don't have to wonder about it. I have a good enough idea that DJ, Woodyard, and Brooking all have a role on that they will play on the field. Unlike the other people that seem to think DJ will be sitting on the bench the rest of the year. I guess I made the mistake of you saying that complete perspective was referring to a complete player. My bad. It's not like I did something crazy and said JJ Watt was a John E clone. I would almost question talking football with someone with such poor football takes as that.
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:06 AM   #207
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Unlike the other people that seem to think DJ will be sitting on the bench the rest of the year.
I don't think that at all. I'm quite sure DJ will see the field; that's the problem.
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:10 AM   #208
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Don't worry, he'll get himself thrown back in prison shortly enough. These things have a way of sorting themselves out.
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:13 AM   #209
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I don't think that at all. I'm quite sure DJ will see the field; that's the problem.
We are a swarming D. DJ brings size now to a fast D that gangs up on the guy with the ball. Zero reason to worry about him being on the field IMO.
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:15 AM   #210
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I don't think that at all. I'm quite sure DJ will see the field; that's the problem.
Do you really think the coaching staff we have now would risk the cohesiveness the D has now by arbitrarily inserting DJ into the line up?

This is not your McD coaching staff or for that matter "the little man upstairs".

This staff will use DJ only if it makes the D better and that includes attitude.
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Zero reason to worry about him being on the field IMO.
Other than the entirety of his playing career as evidence to the contrary, I agree with you.
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:26 AM   #212
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Do you really think the coaching staff we have now would risk the cohesiveness the D has now by arbitrarily inserting DJ into the line up?

This is not your McD coaching staff or for that matter "the little man upstairs".

This staff will use DJ only if it makes the D better and that includes attitude.
The problem is that there is no way to find out if Dj makes the D better without risking the cohesiveness of the unit.
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:30 AM   #213
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Other than the entirety of his playing career as evidence to the contrary, I agree with you.
Prior DLines gave you good feelings that they would do their jobs as well? How about former DC's DJ played with? Did you think they were great at doing their jobs? Do you think it's a crazy coincidence that a former LB has our LB's playing at such a high level?? Yet you still think that while DJ is talented JDR can't get the same out of DJ.

It wasn't so long ago I was reading how poor our WR's are and how bad our OL was. Now we have pro bowlers. All it takes is the right person to make everyone else better

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Old 11-15-2012, 11:47 AM   #214
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The problem is that there is no way to find out if Dj makes the D better without risking the cohesiveness of the unit.
Not if he clearly earns it.


A few plays here and there? They will know. Hell play him in the KC game and rest the 2 MLBs some.
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:26 PM   #215
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Brookings will need to be spelled otherwise he will be at risk breaking down in the playoffs. DJ at the very least will provide some great depth at all 3 LB positions.
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:29 PM   #216
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The problem is that there is no way to find out if Dj makes the D better without risking the cohesiveness of the unit.
I would say if you tinker with the defense you do it now instead of being forced to bc of injuries or in the last quarter of the season.
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:46 PM   #217
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The problem is that there is no way to find out if Dj makes the D better without risking the cohesiveness of the unit.
Funny when you think logically how easy it is to come to that conclusion.

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I would say if you tinker with the defense you do it now instead of being forced to bc of injuries or in the last quarter of the season.
Why? The difference is exactly the same. If someone is injured they play the next man up in this case it is DT. Who has been great while on the field.

If he goes down then you have DJ who up till now has not stepped on the field since about this same time last year.

Even during TC the kiddies forthe reps because IMO they were done with Dumb Ass. Only a freak injury to Mays kept him in play. Up till this Sunday DJ has not cost them a dime, other than in legal fees.

Fox has always been a guy that rides the horses that brung him. So IMO he becomes the next, next man up.
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Brookings will need to be spelled otherwise he will be at risk breaking down in the playoffs. DJ at the very least will provide some great depth at all 3 LB positions.
Why do you think that Brookings needs to be spelled. He has played like 15 plus seasons full time and this year part time. ..

How about we let JDR and Fox decide how much time off he needs..
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Old 11-15-2012, 01:55 PM   #220
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The real question here fellas, is whether or not I should cut Woodyard from my fantasy team, for fear of DJ cutting into his snaps. He's a been a stud for me so far, until last week (Not a lot of tackles).

What's the word on DJ's playing time this week? Because, I certainly couldn't glean any info on that from reading this thread.

I could give two sh*ts whether he DUI'd, DWI'd, or if he's a good person, some of you guys sound like you were raised by mormon's or something. Get real, this is football, the only letter's that matter are W's and L's.
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Old 11-15-2012, 02:42 PM   #221
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Brookings will need to be spelled otherwise he will be at risk breaking down in the playoffs. DJ at the very least will provide some great depth at all 3 LB positions.
Brooking already gets spelled a bunch. I'm sure he played less than half the snaps against Carolina.
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Old 11-15-2012, 02:58 PM   #222
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Not sure how much "cohesiveness" the group has established in just a couple of games. There has been constant tweaking with the LB's.

Clearly the coaches were not happy with Mays (benched) and don't believe Brookings play is outstanding (otherwise why would he come off for Trevathan?).

I am excited to have DJ back - and see how his initial spot play could evolve into greater role.

If we have to face the hurry up NE tactic again (and we can't sub), DJ and WW may be the best to keep on the field.
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:29 PM   #223
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I'd love to send slowshon packing and sign Hightower. He always was pretty good at getting tough yards. He can pass protect and catch balls and run with power. Even bring Addai in he has bald tires but could fill in if Willis blows a tire.
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Old 11-15-2012, 05:41 PM   #224
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we have seen the OM call it wrong almost every time when differing with the FO.

They are keeping KM around for a reason.
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Old 11-15-2012, 05:42 PM   #225
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Anybody want to make a friendly wager that KM is active against SD?
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