Right Wing Folks, are you ready to join the adults?

[Fedaykin]

So now that reality has jumped up and bit you in the face, once again, with precedent defying landslide re-election of mediocre, center-right president despite a poor economy, will the right finally get with the program and start working for the country instead of for their own interests?

For four years now the right has engaged in some of the most embarrassing and counter-productive behavior I have seen in my lifetime. Birthers, 'secret Muslim' conspiracy theories, 2nd amendment fear mongering, extremist tax pledges, and so on.

The right has, as best, contributed nothing, and more likely only added to the problems with obstructionism -- even of ideas that originated with or had serious support of the right -- for the sake of political gain (that has backfired).

And this obstructionism, which I'm sure the righties here will claim isn't happening, isn't just opinion, it's a fact that your politicians will readily admit to; and they'll do so even in writing. Whether it's your political leaders admitting that their number one priority is to further their own agenda (getting the democrat out of the white house), the no compromise take on most issues (even to the extreme of, for example, treating women as expendable brood mares) or all but a handful of your representatives putting in writing that they refuse to, under any circumstance, compromise on fiscal policy it's a mere fools errand to claim that there is even the pretense of cooperation going on within your ranks.

It's despicable that, in a country that is built on a foundation of major compromise, we have a powerful political party that refuses to engage in compromise that is supported by a clear majority of the electorate -- including a large part of their own party.

Is the left wing blameless or even close to perfect? Certainly not.


Now, you may proceed to the personal attacks and other buffoonery.

[Jetmeck]

Not when they think the Bengazi incident is Obama's Watergate.

These a holes will never grow up.

[Rohirrim]

They have a simple ideological answer to this. Obama is not a "real" American, and neither are the people who voted for him. Ipso facto, nothing changes or needs to change.

[Jetmeck]

Does this answer your question ?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...6pLid%3D233624

[cutthemdown]

Meh not even as bad as last election. At least repubs kept the House which they can use to kep obama from doing everything he wants. Also if they could chip into the 75% Latino support for dems they could do much better. landslide lol.

[Fedaykin]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

Meh not even as bad as last election. At least repubs kept the House which they can use to kep obama from doing everything he wants. Also if they could chip into the 75% Latino support for dems they could do much better. landslide lol.

Obama carried more states in 2012 than in 2008. His take of the EVs is lower because of redistribution of seats based on the 2010 census. The President of the U.S. is elected by the states, not the people.

Also, nice way to avoid responding to the point of the post. I'm not surprised.

EDIT My bad, he actually lost a state. Read it backwards.

[cutthemdown]

Originally Posted by Fedaykin

Obama carried more states in 2012 than in 2008. His take of the EVs is lower because of redistribution of seats based on the 2010 census. The President of the U.S. is elected by the states, not the people.

Also, nice way to avoid responding to the point of the post. I'm not surprised.

And that gerrymandering will continue into the next election. So you can forgot about having the house for quite awhile. It's true Repubs have to do better with Latinos to win who vote dem based on immigration. Repubs will have to relent on that and you can already see them hinting at that.

[Fedaykin]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

And that gerrymandering will continue into the next election. So you can forgot about having the house for quite awhile. It's true Repubs have to do better with Latinos to win who vote dem based on immigration. Repubs will have to relent on that and you can already see them hinting at that.

I agree the Ds won't take the house anytime soon due to that gerrymandering (despite national aggregate #s showing essentially a dead even tie for "generic house seat"). What say ye to the obstructionist behavior of those Rs? What say ye to the anti-americanism of no compromise?

[cutthemdown]

The repubs will compromise by embracing the closing of some loopholes to raise tax on rich, and immigration reform. They will hold firm on abortion and income tax.

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

And that gerrymandering will continue into the next election. So you can forgot about having the house for quite awhile. It's true Repubs have to do better with Latinos to win who vote dem based on immigration. Repubs will have to relent on that and you can already see them hinting at that.

And you think that the Repubs holding onto the House through gerrymandering is a good thing?

[Jetmeck]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

And that gerrymandering will continue into the next election. So you can forgot about having the house for quite awhile. It's true Repubs have to do better with Latinos to win who vote dem based on immigration. Repubs will have to relent on that and you can already see them hinting at that.

Finally respond to it and basically tell us its ok ?

[Jetmeck]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

The repubs will compromise by embracing the closing of some loopholes to raise tax on rich, and immigration reform. They will hold firm on abortion and income tax.

BS on tax rates, writing on the walls. Mitt Romney and his BS was shot down and his tax policy isn't coming back even if we have to take the a-hole repubs and people like you over the cliff.


Get ready for a ride and wake the **** up.

[Fedaykin]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

The repubs will compromise by embracing the closing of some loopholes to raise tax on rich, and immigration reform. They will hold firm on abortion and income tax.

Not according to what they have put in writing. Almost all R representatives have signed a pledge saying they will, under no circumstance, raise effective tax rates. Any increase through cutting loopholes must be offset by a reduction in marginal rates, with no quarter given to the idea of raising marginal rates.

[Missouribronc]

Originally Posted by Jetmeck

Not when they think the Bengazi incident is Obama's Watergate.

These a holes will never grow up.

I mean, really? Who wouldn't want to compromise with someone who immediately calls them an a-hole?

Jeesh! The gall of some people!

[houghtam]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

And that gerrymandering will continue into the next election. So you can forgot about having the house for quite awhile. It's true Repubs have to do better with Latinos to win who vote dem based on immigration. Repubs will have to relent on that and you can already see them hinting at that.

The fact that you think Latinos vote based on immigration shows how out of touch you are.

I seriously hope the Republicans think this way, too.

And by the way, was it the Latino vote that won Obama Ohio, Wisconsin, Virginia, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Colorado and Iowa?

[Jetmeck]

Originally Posted by Fedaykin

Not according to what they have put in writing. Almost all R representatives have signed a pledge saying they will, under no circumstance, raise effective tax rates. Any increase through cutting loopholes must be offset by a reduction in marginal rates, with no quarter given to the idea of raising marginal rates.

We have the power, after Jan.1st Bush era tax cuts for the rich and everybody else is GONE.

Everyhting after that will be a tax cut....**** you GrOVER nORQUIST.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

[sutoazul]

Originally Posted by houghtam

The fact that you think Latinos vote based on immigration shows how out of touch you are.

I seriously hope the Republicans think this way, too.

And by the way, was it the Latino vote that won Obama Ohio, Wisconsin, Virginia, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Colorado and Iowa?

Thank you!! Everytime I hear this stupid argument is when I feel less represented. Out of issues important to me immigration could be #15 or so.

[Smiling Assassin27]

An election never decides what's right, only what the majority population WANTS. Had the GOP lost the House, then you'd have a point here. Also, given the popular vote count, your 'adult' point is silly.

Still, I say rubber stamp all that the Dems want. YOu wanna see firsthand what the result will be? Be my guest. Just be sure to look in the mirror when bad things happen. If you're willing to be accountable, I'd tell the GOP to push it all through. Of course, NO Dem would be willing to do that. Without SOMEONE else to blame, Dems will never be bold or implement what they say they want.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by Smiling Assassin27

An election never decides what's right, only what the majority population WANTS.

Well, at least you're able to admit the majority of Americans don't want the awful policies your party has become known for.

That's progress, I guess.

[Pony Boy]

This is real simple folks..... "there are more people in the wagon than pulling the wagon" and they voted to keep their ass on unemployment and in the bread lines.


As for me, I voted for my Senator and Representative to vote in what I believe in and I expect them to do so or I will vote them out.

[Jetmeck]

Originally Posted by Pony Boy

This is real simple folks..... "there are more people in the wagon than pulling the wagon" and they voted to keep their ass on unemployment and in the bread lines.


As for me, I voted for my Senator and Representative to vote in what I believe in and I expect them to do so or I will vote them out.

Whatever asswipe............you have never been an adult or realist once on here...............47% believer ? Really ?

We voted democratic cause Romney wanted to go back to policies that put us in this mess and help the rich period.

House was kept by repubs mainly due to them tinkering with redisticting................I am surprised they found time to do that between voting to repeal Obamacare and ending abortion rights ?

Your party is a joke and should and was reputiated for their BS policies and games they play.

[Bacchus]

Originally Posted by Fedaykin

So now that reality has jumped up and bit you in the face, once again, with precedent defying landslide re-election of mediocre, center-right president despite a poor economy, will the right finally get with the program and start working for the country instead of for their own interests?

For four years now the right has engaged in some of the most embarrassing and counter-productive behavior I have seen in my lifetime. Birthers, 'secret Muslim' conspiracy theories, 2nd amendment fear mongering, extremist tax pledges, and so on.

The right has, as best, contributed nothing, and more likely only added to the problems with obstructionism -- even of ideas that originated with or had serious support of the right -- for the sake of political gain (that has backfired).

And this obstructionism, which I'm sure the righties here will claim isn't happening, isn't just opinion, it's a fact that your politicians will readily admit to; and they'll do so even in writing. Whether it's your political leaders admitting that their number one priority is to further their own agenda (getting the democrat out of the white house), the no compromise take on most issues (even to the extreme of, for example, treating women as expendable brood mares) or all but a handful of your representatives putting in writing that they refuse to, under any circumstance, compromise on fiscal policy it's a mere fools errand to claim that there is even the pretense of cooperation going on within your ranks.

It's despicable that, in a country that is built on a foundation of major compromise, we have a powerful political party that refuses to engage in compromise that is supported by a clear majority of the electorate -- including a large part of their own party.

Is the left wing blameless or even close to perfect? Certainly not.


Now, you may proceed to the personal attacks and other buffoonery.

Join the adults..... uh they are wanting the secede I don't think they are ready for adult decisions as of yet....

[TonyR]

The GOP could moderate its stance on social issues, or could switch its position on immigration, or what have you. And these things might help or might hurt – I can see arguments for both sides. But I suspect that, ultimately, those questions are window dressing. the GOP cannot become a governing party again if it doesn’t find an economic message that has some relation to the actual economic situation in the country.

http://www.theamericanconservative.c...-2012-election

[Pony Boy]

Originally Posted by Jetmeck

Whatever asswipe............you have never been an adult or realist once on here...............47% believer ? Really ?

Right .......Internet tough guy, you start your post with calling me an asswipe and then say I have never been an adult.... I would be willing to bet I'm over twice your age.

Shouldn't you be crying to your UCubed Leader or whoever it is you cry to about being on the shiate end of the employment stick.