DJ's return - Page 2 - The Orange Mane

IHaveALight · 11-12-2012, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

More productive? DJ had more sacks and same amount of FF. DJ does things WW doesn't just like WW does things better then DJ. It's not that hard to understand.

If DJ is an above average LB so is WW which is perfectly OK with me. As for the rest of that crap you posted not a single person thinks DJ is better then Miller. Why you even typed that I have no clue.

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Originally Posted by Lestat

i don't know that i want him anywhere near MLB. he can't make calls.
he struggled badly with that last time he was the MLB.
he needs to be the WLB. as much as i love Woodyard and his play DJ is our best LB, Von is a beast but not a true full on LB yet.

There were many people saying this in preseason.

broncswin · 11-12-2012, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KipCorrington25

Make him earn his stripes on special teams.

Excellent idea kip

Broncojef · 11-12-2012, 07:14 PM

I'll cheer for the guy if he's wearing orange but a part of me would love to see him gone. DMac played an interview DJ gave Sunday night to reporters and he's as annoying in interviews as he is clueless about life in general. Hope we draft a stud to replace him next year.

BroncoMan4ever · 11-12-2012, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lestat

i don't see him being the MLB unless the defense is so different that the calls are simplified and he won't struggle with him.
he's not gonna take the SLB job from Von, he's not a MLB and he's always been best at WLB.

i love what Woodyard is doing but i don't see him holding off DJ for very long.

MLB is the only spot that can be upgraded with his presence. At WLB with the way Woodyard has played would not be an upgrade and at best would be an equal swap. If he can't take over from old man Brooking, he doesn't deserve to play anything but Special Teams and in situational packages

BroncoMan4ever · 11-12-2012, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Broncojef

I'll cheer for the guy if he's wearing orange but a part of me would love to see him gone. DMac played an interview DJ gave Sunday night to reporters and he's as annoying in interviews as he is clueless about life in general. Hope we draft a stud to replace him next year.

DJ is like Dale Carter to me. Worthless turd I wish played elsewhere.

Play2win · 11-12-2012, 07:56 PM

Just not MLB.

Joe Mays plays better MLB than DJ Williams.

Rohirrim · 11-12-2012, 07:57 PM

I'll be really surprised if DJ is in any shape to play. Maybe in four or five weeks.

The Broncos should use the rest of this season to pump up his trade value.

Heyneck · 11-12-2012, 08:06 PM

put him in at rb... seriously!

TheReverend · 11-12-2012, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Heyneck

put him in at rb... seriously!

9 YPC as a FB at Miami.

Nwp-Apap · 11-12-2012, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

I'll be really surprised if DJ is in any shape to play. Maybe in four or five weeks.

The Broncos should use the rest of this season to pump up his trade value.

I'd be surprised if he wasn't. Football shape is easily obtainable in like 5 days of running. Apparently he came in the best shape he's ever been, so there's that too.

R8R H8R · 11-12-2012, 08:27 PM

I trust JDR to do whatever he wants with DJ; he can sit him, play him, or a little of both for all I care. Having DJ come back is what you would call a "good problem to have".

But if all he did is come in on the nickel and cover the TE, that would really boost an already very good defense.

mkporter · 11-12-2012, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Lestat

i don't know that i want him anywhere near MLB. he can't make calls.
he struggled badly with that last time he was the MLB.
he needs to be the WLB. as much as i love Woodyard and his play DJ is our best LB, Von is a beast but not a true full on LB yet.

Is there anyone else who actually agrees with the statement? In what regard is DJ a better linebacker? Maybe pass coverage. Maybe. It isn't even close as a pass rusher or run defender.

CBF1 · 11-12-2012, 09:59 PM

DJ can play where ever they need him.... But it does not mean he has to be calling out the defensive plays. Someone else that is better versed in the new defense will call the plays.

theAPAOps5 · 11-12-2012, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lestat

i don't know that i want him anywhere near MLB. he can't make calls.
he struggled badly with that last time he was the MLB.
he needs to be the WLB. as much as i love Woodyard and his play DJ is our best LB, Von is a beast but not a true full on LB yet.

Between this and Porter you sure are for removing our best playing defenders right now. Are you Shanahan?

lonestar · 11-12-2012, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bowtown

In b4 lonelystar takes a dump.

Oh so cute. What are you 12 or 13. Just another juvenile post.

lonestar · 11-12-2012, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

More productive? DJ had more sacks and same amount of FF. DJ does things WW doesn't just like WW does things better then DJ. It's not that hard to understand.

If DJ is an above average LB so is WW which is perfectly OK with me. As for the rest of that crap you posted not a single person thinks DJ is better then Miller. Why you even typed that I have no clue.

Yep DJ had more sacks than WW did but then he also started 7 more games than he did.

As for why he had those sacks did you ever think it was the call from the sidelines and not just DJs idea.

Conversely we do not know if WW was asked to blitz at all last year.

Other than a couple of sacks and FF in those 7 more starts it seems if you further look at the stats you see that WW had more tackles than DJ did.

But then cherry picking is nothing new for you is it.

Btw yes some DJ nut huggers have called him the best LB we had last year.

lonestar · 11-12-2012, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

I'll be really surprised if DJ is in any shape to play. Maybe in four or five weeks.

The Broncos should use the rest of this season to pump up his trade value.

Since I think anyone that is seriously not in love with the guy knows he is not what John E, Fox or JDR is looking for long term players. Smart, leaders as in college team Captain type guys. DJ is an athlete no doubt but is a dumb ass. He has embarrassed the team (Elways old team) with his dumb assery.

He had to take a pay cut for the rest of the year in order to come back. For anyone with an IQ over room temperature that pretty much spells it out that he is not long term at all.

If he gets any playing time like you said it is for trade value at best. Barring injury to one of the starters or backups.

lonestar · 11-12-2012, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CBF1

DJ can play where ever they need him.... But it does not mean he has to be calling out the defensive plays. Someone else that is better versed in the new defense will call the plays.

But then he would also have to know what those plays are. Not to mention the other Front Seven already know them.

I just do not understand why some want to make changes to something that is working pretty damned good since Brooking came in.

lonestar · 11-12-2012, 11:21 PM

I posted this in another thread thought it was pertinent to this thread..

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Originally Posted by Lestat

i can't wait to see this defense once DJ gets back on the field. Woodyard has been playing lights out but man, DJ will make a huge impact for us at the LB position.

HOW?

The way our LBs have been playing who is he going to replace? Who are you going to take off the field to sub him in for?
Miller? Not happening..
Woodyard? Ditto
Brooking? no way..

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Keep in mind that the unit has been very successful and has developed communication and unity - and DJ has been no part of that. I think that he's going to be a street veteran in the off season at the very best.

http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/bron...-lard#comments

Seems to me I heard that when he comes back he is taking a hit in his paycheck, if they really thought he had something to offer other than depth they would not have ask him to re-do his contract for less money..

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CHARLOTTE N.C. — D.J. Williams will officially return Monday to the Broncos after the two sides recently agreed to a restructuring of his contract.

Williams, who had been a starting linebacker since the Broncos selected him with their first-round draft pick in 2004, had already lost nearly $3 million in salary this year as part of his penalty for serving two suspensions that prevented him from playing in the team's first nine games this year.

Given the considerable time he has missed — Broncos coach John Fox decided not to have him participate in training camp or preseason games so he could instead give reps and playing time to others — Williams is expected to use the first week or two getting back in playing shape.

Read more: Denver Broncos linebacker D.J. Williams to return to team Monday - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...#ixzz2Bzg38w73

"Sorry Charlie Sunkist only wants Prime Tuna"..

DJ ain't all that..

ZONA · 11-13-2012, 01:55 AM

Just curious, is there a rule that the MLB has to be the one calling the plays?

I don't expect DJ to start right away. They will ease him back into the mix the 1st week by giving him rotational work. In the second week I expect he will do the same thing but more of it, I also expect them to experiment some with a 3-4 package. By his 3rd week back, I expect he will be playing MLB and splitting time with Brooking. 4th week I expect he is starting at MLB.

lonestar · 11-13-2012, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ZONA

Just curious, is there a rule that the MLB has to be the one calling the plays?

I don't expect DJ to start right away. They will ease him back into the mix the 1st week by giving him rotational work. In the second week I expect he will do the same thing but more of it, I also expect them to experiment some with a 3-4 package. By his 3rd week back, I expect he will be playing MLB and splitting time with Brooking. 4th week I expect he is starting at MLB.

Dream on.

Other than show casing him for trade value or injury he will see very little playing time.

Let your bromance go he is toast next year no way they keep the dumb ass for 6 mil.

ZONA · 11-13-2012, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

I'll be really surprised if DJ is in any shape to play. Maybe in four or five weeks.

The Broncos should use the rest of this season to pump up his trade value.

Why would he be out of shape? First off, players these days, with all the OTA's and what not, are in much better shape at training camp then in the past. With that, he's had all this time to get in great shape. He might need a week or so to get in great game shape but cmon dude, 4 weeks to get in shape? You talk is if he was home sitting on the couch eating candy. He's been at the facility working out for weeks now. Please tell us all why you would be "surprised" if he is in "any shape to play".

ZONA · 11-13-2012, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by lonestar

Dream on.

Other than show casing him for trade value or injury he will see very little playing time.

Let your bromance go he is toast next year no way they keep the dumb ass for 6 mil.

Yeah, that's why we've kept him on the roster this whole time. So he can ride the bench and be cut at end of season. Makes so much sense. No bromance, just think Elway knows what he's doing and think JDR is one heck of a DC and will get the best out of DJ. It's called optimism and positive attitude.

lonestar · 11-13-2012, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ZONA

Yeah, that's why we've kept him on the roster this whole time. So he can ride the bench and be cut at end of season. Makes so much sense. No bromance, just think Elway knows what he's doing and think JDR is one heck of a DC and will get the best out of DJ. It's called optimism and positive attitude.

Be positive your true love will play.

Wish in one hand crapmin the other see which one fills up first.

The moron had to take a cut in pay to come back at all. that is how much Jihn E thinks about him. At a reduced rate of pay he is insurance plain and simple. Or at best he sees some playing time to raise his trade value.

He can't beat out the guys already starting, he does not have any time in the scheme. He has not played a down this year why would they want to tamper with success. OH I know to get your hero on the field..

Read the links posted above. See if you can get over this fantasy you seem to have.

BTW they kept him on the roster because he has not cost them a dime till yesterday. And now he comes back on a redone cheaper contract for the rest of this year. Call it insurance against injury.

Bmore Manning · 11-13-2012, 06:43 AM

Didn't I start a thread like this a few weeks ago..?

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11-12-2012, 07:14 PM	#28
Broncojef Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Great White North Posts: 3,020	I'll cheer for the guy if he's wearing orange but a part of me would love to see him gone. DMac played an interview DJ gave Sunday night to reporters and he's as annoying in interviews as he is clueless about life in general. Hope we draft a stud to replace him next year.

11-12-2012, 07:56 PM	#31
Play2win Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 9,610 Adopt-a-Bronco: The Duke	Just not MLB. Joe Mays plays better MLB than DJ Williams.

11-12-2012, 08:06 PM	#33
Heyneck Ring of Famer None is a family member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Cali, Colombia Posts: 2,189 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	put him in at rb... seriously!

11-12-2012, 08:27 PM	#36
R8R H8R Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: So. Cal. Posts: 1,593 Adopt-a-Bronco: Virgil Green	I trust JDR to do whatever he wants with DJ; he can sit him, play him, or a little of both for all I care. Having DJ come back is what you would call a "good problem to have". But if all he did is come in on the nickel and cover the TE, that would really boost an already very good defense.

11-12-2012, 09:59 PM	#38
CBF1 Ring of Famer No avatar is the new avatar Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,907 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Del rio	DJ can play where ever they need him.... But it does not mean he has to be calling out the defensive plays. Someone else that is better versed in the new defense will call the plays.

11-13-2012, 01:55 AM	#45
ZONA Ring of Famer Liquid greatness in every packet Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,379 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	Just curious, is there a rule that the MLB has to be the one calling the plays? I don't expect DJ to start right away. They will ease him back into the mix the 1st week by giving him rotational work. In the second week I expect he will do the same thing but more of it, I also expect them to experiment some with a 3-4 package. By his 3rd week back, I expect he will be playing MLB and splitting time with Brooking. 4th week I expect he is starting at MLB.

11-13-2012, 06:43 AM	#50
Bmore Manning Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 2,724 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Didn't I start a thread like this a few weeks ago..?