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Old 11-12-2012, 07:13 AM   #76
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It's not even an argument its just someone telling you the facts of what is going to happen. People will lose coverage and have to go to the exchanges to purchase it.
WHICH IS SOSHULISM YOU GUYZ!

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Old 11-12-2012, 08:13 AM   #77
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I just think its funny Obamacare sets up exchanges for people who either don't have a job, or have a job the employer doesn't give them healthcare. Then when business owners say hmmm that may be a better way for me to go they get all pissed off. You set up the exchanges, don't get mad people now are going to be forced into Obamas system, you voted for it, twice. Everything on the liberals now and we are happy to point that out to you. What don't you liberals like insurance exchanges? Thats a core piece of Obamacare. Just because he lied to the CBO about how many people who go to the exchanges doesn't make it less so.
You aren't thinking this through very clearly. Why do businesses offer health care coverage to their employees to begin with? After all, it's an extremely expensive benefit, often doubling the total compensation the employee receives from the company. They certainly weren't doing it out of the kindness of their hearts. The answer: to attract high-quality employees. I doubt there are many CEOs out there dumb enough to think they can dump their employess coverage and successfully pin it on Obamacare. They may have used that as a scare tactic before the election, but I doubt you see this happening too much. After all, the purpose of offering eployees healthcare is to make your business competitive with competitors who offer the same, and that environment is not going to change. If some CEO dumps coverage, he's going to watch the quality of his work force deteriorate as his pissed off top employees migrate to competitors.

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Old 11-12-2012, 09:05 AM   #78
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You aren't thinking this through very clearly. Why do businesses offer health care coverage to their employees to begin with? After all, it's an extremely expensive benefit, often doubling the total compensation the employee receives from the company. They certainly weren't doing it out of the kindness of their hearts. The answer: to attract high-quality employees. I doubt there are many CEOs out there dumb enough to think they can dump their employess coverage and successfully pin it on Obamacare. They may have used that as a scare tactic before the election, but I doubt you see this happening too much. After all, the purpose of offering eployees healthcare is to make your business competitive with competitors who offer the same, and that environment is not going to change. If some CEO dumps coverage, he's going to watch the quality of his work force deteriorate as his pissed off top employees migrate to competitors.
Correct. Benefits are offered to make businesses competitive with the workforce.

We will likely continue to see companies that employ a large amount of unskilled labor (e.g. retail establishments) shed full time jobs in favor of part time jobs, but as has been discussed before, this is nothing new.
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:37 AM   #79
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:54 AM   #80
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You aren't thinking this through very clearly. Why do businesses offer health care coverage to their employees to begin with? After all, it's an extremely expensive benefit, often doubling the total compensation the employee receives from the company. They certainly weren't doing it out of the kindness of their hearts. The answer: to attract high-quality employees. I doubt there are many CEOs out there dumb enough to think they can dump their employess coverage and successfully pin it on Obamacare. They may have used that as a scare tactic before the election, but I doubt you see this happening too much. After all, the purpose of offering eployees healthcare is to make your business competitive with competitors who offer the same, and that environment is not going to change. If some CEO dumps coverage, he's going to watch the quality of his work force deteriorate as his pissed off top employees migrate to competitors.
yeah but its not hard to find people who can work at a ****ing pizza chain. That is the point they aren't skilled enough to warrant spending that money. People with real skills won't have trouble getting employer based insurance. I agree they will offer it to be lure great workers. You can forgot about unskilled workers being treated like that. They go to the exchanges now.
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:35 PM   #81
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I say they are lying.

The weekly price fluctuations of meat and cheese have to cost more
than the 25 cents per pizza that some experts claim Obamacare will cost.

Since Bush's recession, Pizza Hut has been selling $18 large Supreme Pizzas
for just $10, proving they have tons of wiggle room on price and they still make a profit.

They just want to punish YOU for wanting health care.

Is 25 cents a week too much to pay for health care?
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Old 11-12-2012, 03:38 PM   #82
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Old 11-12-2012, 04:27 PM   #83
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by the time its all said and done all restaurants will be on that list. Under Obamacare rules its set up for businesses like restaurants to send employees to the exchanges. Why are you guys boycotting them? That will just make it worst for the employees. What a joke you are LABF.
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Dude, WTF is wrong with you

I mean, sure, I had all these knobs on ignore who used intellectual dishonesty to try and win an argument...cutthemdown, nyuk, errand, Pony Boy, Beavis, ant...

But I HAD to take them off the Friday before the election when it became clear that Obama was going to win. I just couldn't stand NOT to see their reactions.

It was totally worth it.

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Old 11-12-2012, 06:33 PM   #86
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Dude, WTF is wrong with you

I mean, sure, I had all these knobs on ignore who used intellectual dishonesty to try and win an argument...cutthemdown, nyuk, errand, Pony Boy, Beavis, ant...

But I HAD to take them off the Friday before the election when it became clear that Obama was going to win. I just couldn't stand NOT to see their reactions.

It was totally worth it.

Just proves you aren't a real man. You run and hide until you found out your boy would win. p***Y.
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Old 11-12-2012, 07:54 PM   #87
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Gun Sales Shoot Up After President's Re-Election

Some are selling ten times what they normally do, as customers load up.

Largest Stock Market Drop in a Year

It appears that one can’t have their Dow Jones Industrial Average and redistribute it too


We all know OBAMA has done nothing to hinder gun owners and the DOW has doubled under Obama so anyone pointing to these two things is beyond delusional.
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Old 11-12-2012, 07:57 PM   #88
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Just proves you aren't a real man. You run and hide until you found out your boy would win. p***Y.

I was here argueing with clowns such as yourself and he was right actually strted several threads last couple of days before election.

Get over it.......the election over and realize who did win and what it means for the country. Your right wing ideology got biatch slapped sideways....................
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We all know OBAMA has done nothing to hinder gun owners and the DOW has doubled under Obama so anyone pointing to these two things is beyond delusional.
The hilarious part is that all the ammo/gun runs are what are causing the huge increases in price -- not anything the president has actually done.

When a small town (<10,000 people) gunshop sells $10,000 worth of ammo in a day (Wed) and 50-60 guns -- do these idiots think that won't increase the price of ammo and guns?

Do they not understand how supply and demand work?

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Dude, WTF is wrong with you

I mean, sure, I had all these knobs on ignore who used intellectual dishonesty to try and win an argument...cutthemdown, nyuk, errand, Pony Boy, Beavis, ant...

But I HAD to take them off the Friday before the election when it became clear that Obama was going to win. I just couldn't stand NOT to see their reactions.

It was totally worth it.

L0L!

I hear ya, brah.

I put that sh*t stain on ignore because he wouldn't stop PMing me with monkey mail.
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Just proves you aren't a real man. You run and hide until you found out your boy would win. p***Y.
Even if that were the case, I knew my boy would win long before you did.

But it's not, and Jetmeck is right. Not my fault that you have me on ignore and still read my posts, yet somehow didn't see this.

Also, you conveniently left the part out where I ignored you specifically because you were using intellectually dishonest tactics to argue your point.
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You can't even get right who ignored who. . Whose dishonest now lil fella.
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Old 11-12-2012, 09:50 PM   #93
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Even when he tries to ignore me LABF can't ! he's still obsessed with me. Only a few days since his boy one and already he's already unhappy.
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