Gold is now a bad investment.

[alkemical]

Originally Posted by Odysseus

Investment strategy:
Get a paper route. Save $1000 a month from the paper route. At the end of the year you have $12,000 to invest. Put the money with a trading account. Do this for three years. At the end of three years you have studied the market three years, saving $36,000, talked to numerous people about crap you know nothing about and then, by some miracle you will have defeated inertia and have a stake at the big table. Viola!

I am not a savvy stock trader. I am not a brilliant investment strategist. I am not anybody. I'm just a dude learning this crap same as anybody here. Most people don't want to admit they don't know crap about the market. Many of my mentors have come back to me with humbling stories and asked ME for investing advice. The trick is destroying inertia.

I have had several opportunities to be a millionaire just like you have. Who knows where I could be if I had at least THOUGHT about investing in Microsoft, Apple, or Google early in their inception.

It takes humility to learn this crap. You have to be willing to ask the biggest and dumbest questions you can imagine.

I have a secret friend who is creating his own bank. He is a very private person who is being mentored by some very influential people. He is going to take special care of the investors, like myself, who have invested early. It's like having imaginary friends only better.

I'd rather make cold calls for my Soil & Water remediation product. See, i'm investing in this business with SWEAT. Find an opportunity & build it, right?

It's paying off though - I won't get too public on what's going on - but... long term - in 5 years I am targeting to be sitting well.

I have a product that cleans up messes from Monsanto & Dupont's ****ty pesticides. It also allows farmers to use LESS food to grow plants. It also increases plant health. When using in a water culture (Hydroponics/Aquaponics) - it helps stabilize PH and keeps the system clean. Also helps break down unspent food & salts into bio-available forms of N-P-K. (what does this mean Ody? It means that as a business (food production) - you get more consistent yields + less $ on food spent = more profit)



Now, I just need the market to know it exists.



Oh, did I also mention that this helps break down petro-chemicals in soil & water?

Yeah...

[baja]

Originally Posted by alkemical

Maybe one day some of ya'll can share some secrets with me.

You already know the most important secret, tithing.

[Odysseus]

Originally Posted by baja

Actually Tithing is a huge part of my friends success. I never meant a more generous man, ever!

He should start posting here! The WPR is a bastion of kindness, generosity, and compassion. He would enjoy his time here.

I think it's a lot easier to generous when you have a million dollars. If I gave you $5.00 would you be offended? What if it was all that I had?

[alkemical]

Originally Posted by Odysseus

ROAD TRIP!

:ha:

[alkemical]

Originally Posted by baja

Actually Tithing is a huge part of my friends success. I never meant a more generous man, ever!

I don't doubt it -

[baja]

Originally Posted by Odysseus

He should start posting here! The WPR is a bastion of kindness, generosity, and compassion. He would enjoy his time here.

I think it's a lot easier to generous when you have a million dollars. If I gave you $5.00 would you be offended? What if it was all that I had?

Tithing is something that comes from the heart, for the love of another. True tithing does not need acknowledging and is given freely without thought of return. It is an act of love.

[alkemical]

Originally Posted by baja

Tithing is something that comes from the heart, for the love of another. True tithing does not need acknowledging and is given freely without thought of return. It is an act of love.

Indeed it is.

[Odysseus]

Originally Posted by baja

Tithing is something that comes from the heart, for the love of another. True tithing does not need acknowledging and is given freely without thought of return. It is an act of love.

Love is taking time with a person who disagrees with you and working it out.

Love is forgiving a person who doesn't understand you for their own ignorance.

Love is giving away information on a WPR forum to people you don't know, who don't care if you live or die and probably don't think much of you anyways.

Money and love are different concerns. How do you measure generosity? Intent? Love?

A guy giving all he has from his tiny little heart should be applauded for his crippled effort as the person capable of saving a person's home or providing them financial advice that will benefit them for the rest of their lives.

Love is humble and is beyond measure.

[Odysseus]

Love is more precious than gold.....but right now....more gold please!

[Arkie]

Originally Posted by Odysseus

Love is more precious than gold.....but right now....more gold please!

It'll cost ya. I heard you could only build about 1/3 of the Washington monument using all the gold in the world as the building material.

[baja]

Originally Posted by Odysseus

Love is taking time with a person who disagrees with you and working it out.

Love is forgiving a person who doesn't understand you for their own ignorance.

Love is giving away information on a WPR forum to people you don't know, who don't care if you live or die and probably don't think much of you anyways.

Money and love are different concerns. How do you measure generosity? Intent? Love?

A guy giving all he has from his tiny little heart should be applauded for his crippled effort as the person capable of saving a person's home or providing them financial advice that will benefit them for the rest of their lives.

Love is humble and is beyond measure.

Love is understanding there is nothing to forgive.

[Odysseus]

Originally Posted by alkemical

I'd rather make cold calls for my Soil & Water remediation product. See, i'm investing in this business with SWEAT. Find an opportunity & build it, right?

It's paying off though - I won't get too public on what's going on - but... long term - in 5 years I am targeting to be sitting well.

I have a product that cleans up messes from Monsanto & Dupont's ****ty pesticides. It also allows farmers to use LESS food to grow plants. It also increases plant health. When using in a water culture (Hydroponics/Aquaponics) - it helps stabilize PH and keeps the system clean. Also helps break down unspent food & salts into bio-available forms of N-P-K. (what does this mean Ody? It means that as a business (food production) - you get more consistent yields + less $ on food spent = more profit)

Now, I just need the market to know it exists.

Oh, did I also mention that this helps break down petro-chemicals in soil & water?

Yeah...

The most important investments I make are my friends, family, things I read, and the time I spend learning new things. Money is just a means to having a bigger library.

[Odysseus]

Originally Posted by baja

Love is understanding there is nothing to forgive.

I forgive you for making me throw up in my mouth over your milk thread.

[alkemical]

lol

[Odysseus]

http://goldprice.org/gold-price.html

$1713 USD

[Odysseus]

Found through Alkemical:

http://www.illuminatirex.com/oil-ira...the-us-dollar/

[alkemical]

I like the work they do.

[Meck77]

Originally Posted by baja

How the hell are ya Quietiger

I have a good friend who is rech in the extreme and he kills the market. He has a fortune invested in short selling Apple. I don't know where he gets his info but he told me to load up on puts for Apple next month. He is rarely wrong when he bets this big and would not offer a tip to me if he were not pretty sure about this.

Personally I think with the loss of Jobs they lost their mojo. so I'm in. In fact he put me in for 5 Gs which I thought was a beautiful gester to a friend.

Take this for what it is worth, speculation.

PS typing this in the sun so excuse the bad typing...

Whoops..Apple stock up over 120 points since your buddy told you to short it.




https://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NASDAQ:AAPL

[Garcia Bronco]

And it's still a bad investment from the perspective that you can't buy a bunch of it and take possession. It's belief bubble like anything else.

[Arkie]

It's easier to take possession than silver. A $100,000 investment in gold would be only 60 gold 1 oz coins compared to 3000 silver 1 oz coins. The gold coins are smaller at the same weight too.

[baja]

TIME TO BUY AGAIN

[Odysseus]

$1735 per ounce.

[Arkie]

Originally Posted by baja

TIME TO BUY AGAIN

Good call

[mhgaffney]

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

And it's still a bad investment from the perspective that you can't buy a bunch of it and take possession. It's belief bubble like anything else.

The bubble is your head.

Possession of junk silver and gold coins is easy.

As usual -- you are poorly informed.

MHG

[Arkie]

2000 -- $273.60
2001 -- $279.00
2002 -- $348.20
2003 -- $416.10
2004 -- $438.40
2005 -- $518.90
2006 -- $638.00
2007 -- $838.00
2008 -- $889.00
2009 -- $1096.50
2010 -- $1421.40
2011 -- $1531.00
2012 -- $1675.00