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Old 11-12-2012, 06:56 AM   #1
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And, after watching what linebacker Von Miller did against Carolina Sunday, Bailey matter-of-factly tossed Miller's name into the league's defensive player-of-the-year race.
"I don't ever like to get ahead of myself," Bailey said. "It's important to keep things where they need to be, but I really can't say he's not playing better than anybody right now. Because he is playing better than anybody right now. It's amazing what he's doing. He just needs to stay the course, and it will all work itself out. But I'm glad I'm around to see him do what he's doing"


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Old 11-12-2012, 06:58 AM   #2
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So why wasn't Von credited with 2 sacks yesterday? The 3rd and 2 where he leveled Newton behind the LOS should have been #2, no? Were they counting that as a rush attempt since Newton did make a move toward the LOS that indicated it was a designed run?
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Old 11-12-2012, 07:06 AM   #3
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So why wasn't Von credited with 2 sacks yesterday? The 3rd and 2 where he leveled Newton behind the LOS should have been #2, no? Were they counting that as a rush attempt since Newton did make a move toward the LOS that indicated it was a designed run?

Ya I assumed it was 2 sacks for Von as well.

Maybe the league will adjust it after they review the game as they always do.
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Definition of Sack

The league defines a sack as tackling the quarterback behind the line of scrimmage while he is attempting to pass. All three elements must be present. It has to be the quarterback, not another player taking a handoff or pitch and throwing an option pass. It has to be behind the line of scrimmage; a quarterback who is chased across the line is credited with run yardage. And the quarterback must be trying to pass; designed run plays that are stopped behind the line of scrimmage are not considered sacks.

(if the intent of the QB is unclear it would be counted as a sack as well).
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So why wasn't Von credited with 2 sacks yesterday? The 3rd and 2 where he leveled Newton behind the LOS should have been #2, no? Were they counting that as a rush attempt since Newton did make a move toward the LOS that indicated it was a designed run?
I thought it was clearly a designed run and therefore not a sack. Then I watched it again and I'm not so sure that Cam wasn't trying to run because he saw Von in the backfield immediately.
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Old 11-12-2012, 07:09 AM   #6
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Yeah, after this past game, if Von continues to play like that...hot damn.
That was the best I've ever seen of him. He was disrupting everything.
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It's legit to talk about Von getting DPOY and Manning getting OPOY & MVP
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It's legit to talk about Von getting DPOY and Manning getting OPOY & MVP
Naaah... Von will get DPOY and PM will get the comeback and MVP. OPOY will go to Rodgers or AP.
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I thought it was clearly a designed run and therefore not a sack. Then I watched it again and I'm not so sure that Cam wasn't trying to run because he saw Von in the backfield immediately.
Maybe but Von was in there so fast you can't really say that Newton was running or passing
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Old 11-12-2012, 08:23 AM   #11
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Miller does it in a much flashier fashion than anyone right now. His hits really stand out and is unblockable at times. I know I about puked when he was down on the ground early in the game. Even when Steve Smith jacked him up I was worried. He is the one guy along with Manning that must stay healthy.
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I thought it was clearly a designed run and therefore not a sack. Then I watched it again and I'm not so sure that Cam wasn't trying to run because he saw Von in the backfield immediately.
You don't have to call it a sack. Its called "holy **** nobody blocked that guy I am getting pounded again"

Even Von was feeling sorry for them after that one!
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The Panthers line was run blocking, that was a clearly designed run
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Von Miller got tired of dancing! Too easy!!!
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I posted this fact in another thread ..

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& 10+run TFLs. In last 20 yrs, this has been done only 19 times over
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Von was in all out beast mode yesterday. Just need other players to setup and become somewhat of a presence with doom out so teams cannot completly focus in on Miller. But having Von able to line up all over the field will also help his matchups, especially since he has the strength to also stunt up the middle, i.e., he's not just a one dimensional outside rusher when he's coming on the pass.
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Von was in all out beast mode yesterday. Just need other players to setup and become somewhat of a presence with doom out so teams cannot completly focus in on Miller. But having Von able to line up all over the field will also help his matchups, especially since he has the strength to also stunt up the middle, i.e., he's not just a one dimensional outside rusher when he's coming on the pass.
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Naaah... Von will get DPOY and PM will get the comeback and MVP. OPOY will go to Rodgers or AP.
It looks like AP is generating more buzz than PM for comeback player of the year. I think they are neck & neck for that one. (no pun intended)
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Old 11-12-2012, 08:17 PM   #19
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It looks like AP is generating more buzz than PM for comeback player of the year. I think they are neck & neck for that one. (no pun intended)
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It looks like AP is generating more buzz than PM for comeback player of the year. I think they are neck & neck for that one. (no pun intended)
I don't understand the comeback thing for AP. He had 1, 000 yds and 13 touchdowns last year and played 12 games. Manning didn't even play at all... someone explain this to me. I understand AP was hurt in late december, but comeback player?

Its like when elway said he was gonna play one more year after the super bowl and everyone was saying welcome back. His reponse was "i didn't go anywhere"

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I don't understand the comeback thing for AP. He had 1, 000 yds and 13 touchdowns last year and played 12 games. Manning didn't even play at all... someone explain this to me. I understand AP was hurt in late december, but comeback player?

Its like when elway said he was gonna play one more year after the super bowl and everyone was saying welcome back. His reponse was "i didn't go anywhere"
it's more about the damn near miraculous recovery he had to even see the field this season.
for most athletes they're barely back to form after the 2nd year of the recovery, AP freak that he is is darn near 100% and shredding fools left and right.
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Clearly I started the AP for comeback player hype.
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it's more about the damn near miraculous recovery he had to even see the field this season.
for most athletes they're barely back to form after the 2nd year of the recovery, AP freak that he is is darn near 100% and shredding fools left and right.
I agree that AP is a freak of nature. And the comback award doesn't even do justice. They should create a new freak award just for Peterson and give manning the comeback player
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If Peterson keeps up with his current pace he could be flirting with history.
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