Are there any consequences?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by Missouribronc

Obama has doubled the national debt in four years. Something no one else has done. Ever.

Ohio governor John Kasich and Virginia governor Bob McDonnell each insisted that President Obama "doubled" the debt. First, this is patently untrue. The debt has increased by just 41.4 percent during the first several years of the president's term, from around $10 trillion to $15 trillion. Ronald Reagan, on the other hand, presided over a near-doubling of the debt, increasing the number by 188 percent. Bush 41 presided over a 55.6 percent increase, and Bush 43 presided over an 89 percent increase. At the same time, the year-over-year increase in the debt under President Obama has dropped from 15 percent to 4 percent. The president also cut the deficit from $1.4 trillion in his first year to $900 billion in 2013 (projected by the CBO) -- and it's worth noting that $1.2 trillion of the 2009 deficit was inherited from a George W. Bush spending request in 2008.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

More inconvenient math for right-wing crack smokers...

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

[Jetmeck]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

And the media are going to bury that one in the back pages.

Finally come out from under your rock ?

Carter 2.0 kicked your ass.........quit your b****in and

eat your crow !

[Jetmeck]

Originally Posted by Missouribronc

How do you double the nation's debt and continue to blame it on someone else?

How does this happen?

Dude you were dropped on your head as a baby ?

Recession your party created was still worsening when he took office....not to mention two wars your ahole party started.

Quit embarassing yourself..........

[Odysseus]

Originally Posted by manchambo

Fox News lied to its audience throughout the entire election. They told them that Obama is wildly unpopular and Romney would win easily. Rove, Krauthammer, Dick Morris and others were just spectacularly wrong. And Rove is now on every day to provide "expert" analysis on what happened. He made a complete fool of himself on election night. How wrong would he have to be to lose credibility with these people? At what point would the Fox News audience be unhappy with Fox for lying nonstop to their faces?

If you want to learn textbook cases on how to lie with statistics Fox news provides daily examples. I realize that "all" networks do this but Fox has dominated news market so much that some news sources are tainted because they get their news FROM Fox news and are never challenged to where they got their information.

Fox is too big, too profitable, and too much of a force. They are right about whatever they say because they have the might and money to be right.

[Odysseus]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

More inconvenient math for right-wing crack smokers...

Obama is right to "right size" the military. Any concepts of buying more crap for the military is really stupid. The Bush tax cuts are widely documented as being ineffective.

The right wing mantra regarding tax cuts is not an idle threat. Price fixing just like some of the job cuts are orchestrated. Small business owners are affected by large manufacturers decide to so any cascading failure can be falsely generated. Corporations create jobs not government.

The real problem is how do you cure runaway capitalism? The right salve, no matter how well applied, can be perceived as a poison.

[Odysseus]

Originally Posted by chadta

really ?

there are no consequences for politicians lying, yet there should be for journalists ?

Yes.

It has to start somewhere or do you propose that because they do it we should all do it? The problem is not your question because that will never happen. The press wants to be "free". The problem is your logic.

[Jetmeck]

Get your head out of the bubble and turn off FOX NEWS. I turn them on for a laugh once in a while................they are like a bad SNL skit.............lol

[Jetmeck]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

We beat that stupid **** by 16 points and I am glad to say I was a part of that.......knocking on doors and donations.

Good guys won

[Odysseus]

http://entertainment.time.com/2012/1...he-arithmetic/

Prove the press actually works from time to time against their own judgment.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by Jetmeck

Finally come out from under your rock ?

Carter 2.0 kicked your ass.........quit your b****in and

eat your crow !

Haven't you heard?

According to EpicNyuk, Obama only won by the skin of his teeth.

[TonyR]

Originally Posted by Odysseus

http://entertainment.time.com/2012/1...he-arithmetic/

Prove the press actually works from time to time against their own judgment.

Yup.

It was a fitting moment for an election that often seemed to be a campaign over the idea of mathematical knowability itself. But it was also a glaring, and embarrassing, example of the extent to which Fox News has become an arm of the Republican Party and is expected by GOP operatives to behave as one. Rove may be a party big shot, but he’s just a guy giving analysis on Fox’s air. He does not run the network, even if his friends do.
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In the end, Rove is a numbers guy too, and he finally had to concede to the arithmetic–but not before creating a defining image of a partisan, and a network, at war with the very reality it could not avoid reporting. Kelly, who at least took the whole interlude in good humor, at one point deadpanned, “That’s awkward.” Yes, it was. And kind of amazing.