Fox is such a p***Y - The Orange Mane

ZONA · 11-11-2012, 12:05 PM

For real dude, 9 seconds left in half. 4th and 1. The other team is NOT going to do anything if you don't get it. You give yourself a chance at a shorter FG.

I know he conservative but this to me is conservative to the point where you hurt your team.

Fox - grow a ****in pair already.

Broncos4tw · 11-11-2012, 12:23 PM

Eh? Smart play. Newton has a cannon for an arm. At the 50, he has a chance to get it into the endzone. A kick guarantees he doesn't. We had the lead and the kick at the half. Smart call imo.

Hercules Rockefeller · 11-11-2012, 12:25 PM

Up by 10 on the road and getting the ball to start the half. Nothing wrong with that decision.

Kid A · 11-11-2012, 12:26 PM

I thought it was probably smart play there, Thomas hurt, not much momentum.

Not going on 4th and 1 (or challenging a terrible spot) with a chance to seal the game on the previous drive was much more frustrating.

DENVERDUI55 · 11-11-2012, 12:36 PM

Yeah take a sack or a bunch of other bad things could happen vs the long shot of a fg in a game you are dominating. Smart play call by Fox especially in a game Denver has control in.

doonwise · 11-11-2012, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ZONA

For real dude, 9 seconds left in half. 4th and 1. The other team is NOT going to do anything if you don't get it. You give yourself a chance at a shorter FG.

I know he conservative but this to me is conservative to the point where you hurt your team.

Fox - grow a ****in pair already.

Overreact much?? I hardly think the head coach deserves to be called a pu**y for punting after his kicker just missed an easier kick. Dial it down, friend.

Wes Mantooth · 11-11-2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ZONA

For real dude, 9 seconds left in half. 4th and 1. The other team is NOT going to do anything if you don't get it. You give yourself a chance at a shorter FG.

I know he conservative but this to me is conservative to the point where you hurt your team.

Fox - grow a ****in pair already.

if I were your doctor, I would prescribe less madden

Goobzilla · 11-11-2012, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kid A

I thought it was probably smart play there, Thomas hurt, not much momentum.

Not going on 4th and 1 (or challenging a terrible spot) with a chance to seal the game on the previous drive was much more frustrating.

Still baffled he didn't challenge that spot.

Vine · 11-11-2012, 01:24 PM

It's only a matter of time when Fox's dumbass coaching will actually cost the Broncos a game.

Rock Chalk · 11-11-2012, 01:26 PM

Dumbest.Thread.Ever.

R8R H8R · 11-11-2012, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Goobzilla

Still baffled he didn't challenge that spot.

I didn't think Hilman made it anyway. It probably would have been a closer 4th & 1, but if Fox was just going to kick it anyway, then it didn't matter.

Rock Chalk · 11-11-2012, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Goobzilla

Still baffled he didn't challenge that spot.

Challenging the spot loses a timeout and a challenge. The replay showed that while he MAY have had forward progress for the First down, odds are much greater that he would have been a little short. While they would have moved the ball, we still would have lost the challenge.

doonwise · 11-11-2012, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vine

It's only a matter of time when Fox's dumbass coaching will actually cost the Broncos a game.

You can say this about any coach in the NFL.

Vine · 11-11-2012, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by R8R H8R

I didn't think Hilman made it anyway. It probably would have been a closer 4th & 1, but if Fox was just going to kick it anyway, then it didn't matter.

The way I understand replay rules, if replay doesn't result in an adjusted spot that results in a first down, then the team loses a challenge. But there was a very good angle that looked like Hilman stretched the ball REALLY close to the 1st down line that should have at least resulted in a measurement. But if the measurement shows the ball to be inches short, Denver loses the challenge and a timeout, but is in much better position to go for it on 4th down.

Vine · 11-11-2012, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by doonwise

You can say this about any coach in the NFL.

Fox is different though. I don't agree with his conservativeness when it comes to 2 minute situations and punt/fg/go for it decisions. He has been known to not challenge plays that have showed to be situations where a challenge might be beneficial.

Kaylore · 11-11-2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock Chalk

Dumbest.Thread.Ever.

This. The coach who rebuilt this team into what it is wins back to back road games, this one going away, and people are starting threads calling him a dumb ass and p***Y.

DENVERDUI55 · 11-11-2012, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Vine

Fox is different though. I don't agree with his conservativeness when it comes to 2 minute situations and punt/fg/go for it decisions. He has been known to not challenge plays that have showed to be situations where a challenge might be beneficial.

How about his team that has scored 10 TD's other than offense in the past 2 years? His coaching has been great and we have shown to get back into games we were down big in. Funny how you think you can call a better game than him.

doonwise · 11-11-2012, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

This. The coach who rebuilt this team into what it is wins back to back road games, this one going away, and people are starting threads calling him a dumb ass and p***Y.

AND after one of the most complete games I've ever seen the broncos play. Perfection doesn't exist in football and from a team perspective, it doesn't get much better than today's performance.

Bladerunner · 11-11-2012, 01:44 PM

I'm not as emotional about that call as you are, but I had the same reasoning as you...I would have gone for it, under the reasoning that Carolina would have had less than 5 seconds to do anything with it...

DENVERDUI55 · 11-11-2012, 01:56 PM

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I'm not as emotional about that call as you are, but I had the same reasoning as you...I would have gone for it, under the reasoning that Carolina would have had less than 5 seconds to do anything with it...

Pick 6, fumble recovery for td, sack and they get long fg try, hail mary td for newton, pi on hail mary vs possible long fg for Denver. Too much risk vs what you could get out of going for it.

Drunk Monkey · 11-11-2012, 01:59 PM

WTF is wrong with you people. I come in here and you would have thought we lost. Jesus, great win. ZONA, you sir are a $#@%$@#%@#$%. Re watch the game and that last 1st half sequence and get back to me.

canadianbroncosfan · 11-11-2012, 02:05 PM

This thread needs to go to the thread grave yard.

All hail J. Fox!!!

LRtagger · 11-11-2012, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock Chalk

Challenging the spot loses a timeout and a challenge. The replay showed that while he MAY have had forward progress for the First down, odds are much greater that he would have been a little short. While they would have moved the ball, we still would have lost the challenge.

No if they had changed the spot of the ball that means we would have won te challenge - whether it resulted in a first down or not.

Bladerunner · 11-11-2012, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55

Pick 6, fumble recovery for td, sack and they get long fg try, hail mary td for newton, pi on hail mary vs possible long fg for Denver. Too much risk vs what you could get out of going for it.

If Tebow is your QB, then you punt, but he's not, Manning is...the percentages are not the same as they were (see Bill Belichick)...I like the odds of good vs bad things going for it in that situation...

I'm not emotional about this, I understand why the Broncos punted, but all things considered, I would have gone for it...I'm glad to know it didn't matter one way or another...

Agamemnon · 11-11-2012, 02:46 PM

What I really didn't understand was him not challenging a spot that was clearly a full yard short of where it should've been. You challenge, and if it's 4th and inches you go for it. Unless you are the spineless wonder named John Fox.

11-11-2012, 12:05 PM	#1
ZONA Ring of Famer Liquid greatness in every packet Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,402 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	Fox is such a pY* For real dude, 9 seconds left in half. 4th and 1. The other team is NOT going to do anything if you don't get it. You give yourself a chance at a shorter FG. I know he conservative but this to me is conservative to the point where you hurt your team. Fox - grow a ****in pair already.

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11-11-2012, 12:23 PM	#2
Broncos4tw Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,458	Eh? Smart play. Newton has a cannon for an arm. At the 50, he has a chance to get it into the endzone. A kick guarantees he doesn't. We had the lead and the kick at the half. Smart call imo.

11-11-2012, 12:25 PM	#3
Hercules Rockefeller Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 16,005 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	Up by 10 on the road and getting the ball to start the half. Nothing wrong with that decision.

11-11-2012, 12:26 PM	#4
Kid A Ring of Famer I don't need love. I just need wins Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,595	I thought it was probably smart play there, Thomas hurt, not much momentum. Not going on 4th and 1 (or challenging a terrible spot) with a chance to seal the game on the previous drive was much more frustrating.

11-11-2012, 12:36 PM	#5
DENVERDUI55 Drunk on Arrival! New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,179 Adopt-a-Bronco: Montee Ball	Yeah take a sack or a bunch of other bad things could happen vs the long shot of a fg in a game you are dominating. Smart play call by Fox especially in a game Denver has control in.

11-11-2012, 01:24 PM	#9
Vine Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Chadron, Nebraska Posts: 1,933 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	It's only a matter of time when Fox's dumbass coaching will actually cost the Broncos a game.

11-11-2012, 01:26 PM	#10
Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,940 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	Dumbest.Thread.Ever.

11-11-2012, 01:44 PM	#19
Bladerunner Ring of Famer ...Two weeks from everywhere! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: California Posts: 1,125 Adopt-a-Bronco: Willis McGahee	I'm not as emotional about that call as you are, but I had the same reasoning as you...I would have gone for it, under the reasoning that Carolina would have had less than 5 seconds to do anything with it...

11-11-2012, 01:59 PM	#21
Drunk Monkey Mars b****es!!! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,597	WTF is wrong with you people. I come in here and you would have thought we lost. Jesus, great win. ZONA, you sir are a $#@%$@#%@#$%. Re watch the game and that last 1st half sequence and get back to me.

11-11-2012, 02:05 PM	#22
canadianbroncosfan Ring of Famer METHWOLFE ALLIANCE- FOREIGN AFFAIRS Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 2,845 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	This thread needs to go to the thread grave yard. All hail J. Fox!!!

11-11-2012, 02:46 PM	#25
Agamemnon Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 10,458 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	What I really didn't understand was him not challenging a spot that was clearly a full yard short of where it should've been. You challenge, and if it's 4th and inches you go for it. Unless you are the spineless wonder named John Fox.