Where does the GOP go from here?

[baja]

With the power of the emerging minorities it will be hard to defeat the party of big government with lots of entitlement programs.

This goes against the basic principles of the Republican Party thus without taking this trend into account they will go the way of the albatross.

The country can not afford entitlements and a insanely bloated military so the only hope is to reign in the industrial military complex.

[TonyR]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

I had a 2 week ban. Refer to the Harry Reid thread.

So, are you still immersing yourself in the same media cesspool that got the electorate and election so spectacularly wrong? (see link below for lots of good examples) Or are you considering stepping out into the real world? The first step is always the hardest!

http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast....awardgasm.html

[baja]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

That's Cain trying to pretend to be relevant. Sour grapes is about all you can expect from him, even if he dug his own grave. Of course, liberals latch onto it hungrily for obvious reasons.

I'd like to see the Democrats expel their Socialists. Socialist handiwork is all over Democratic domestic policy. Contrast it to anything from any Red party: Workers World Party, Socialist International, etc... The ideological overlap is astounding. The only real difference is that they're anti-capitalist and Democrats aren't.

He's right about the Tea Party though. They should have called themselves the Frozen Tea Party because that's what they they have done to government.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by TonyR

So, are you still immersing yourself in the same media cesspool that got the electorate and election so spectacularly wrong?

Of course.

He/she made that clear right from his/her first post back from exile.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

I had a 2 week ban. Refer to the Harry Reid thread.

You've wasted no time in showing you learned absolutely nothing from this election.....which bodes well for Democrats in 2016.

[Taco John]

Originally Posted by Blart

right-Libertarians think civil liberties are nice, but unrestrained capitalism is far more important.

Is the ability to buy and sell goods a civil liberty? I don't know how you can separate them.

[cutthemdown]

Originally Posted by TheElusiveKyleOrton

They're not unborn babies.

They're collections of cells.

But otherwise, good luck with all that "someday women won't want to have control of their own healthcare decisions" stuff.

BS they are underdeveloped humans with a soul. You watch someday we reach a point as humans where things like abortion don't exist anymore. maybe we wont live to see it but it will happen.

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by Blart

The ACLU, for comparison, takes on 6,000 civil liberties cases a year free of charge.

Look at their activism side and you'll see why so many view them as subversive. Judging an organization worthwhile based on face-value glances such as uses of nice words like "civil liberties" is about as retard level as you can get.

And voter suppression? Apparently that's another issue that's not as important as privatized roads. Democracy, after all, is a rather touchy subject for right-libertarians.

Prove it before bashing others for not going along. If voter ID is voter suppression an racism, then so is Obama asking for photo ID before issuing food stamps. The shoe DOES fit on the other foot.

Milton Friedman, Friedrich von Hayek, and Ludwig Von Mises each coddled up to fascist dictators.

Guilt by association? I won't even ask who these dictators are, but using this standard, Obama is a Marxist. Again, the shoe DOES fit on the other foot.

I think houghtam is right - right-Libertarians think civil liberties are nice, but unrestrained capitalism is far more important.

Libertards are border busters, you should like them.

[cutthemdown]

Amazing that liberals dont see the barbarism of abortions.

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

You've wasted no time in showing you learned absolutely nothing from this election.....which bodes well for Democrats in 2016.

Obama lost 7 million votes from 08 to now. He got his ass kicked in between. What's next? Not bad news for the GOP, methinks. Obama bled votes and barely got out alive, and the media are hiding by making up garbage about the mighty Latino amnesty vote (even though Latino polls continually show that amnesty isn't a big issue with them).

Dream on, dude.

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

Amazing that liberals dont see the barbarism of abortions.

Feminists are a key identity bloc and it is a routine effort every election to try to manipulate women to vote for them by making fear-mercials about their uteruses. Every single cycle they do it, and they do it because it works. There are way too many idiotic, selfish voters out there and these types of commercials prey on the idiotic and selfish as well as those who don't think the issue through.

They depend on people gullible enough to react in fear and horror and vote for the Democrat based on what Democrats say about Republicans. One thing they DON'T want is people listening to what the GOP says about itself, and above all, DON'T READ THE GOP PLATFORM!



I for one am a woman no longer in the manipulative clutches of the left and I am hated for it, here and elsewhere. AND IT IS AWESOME.

[houghtam]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

I for one am a woman no longer

Well we knew that already.

But you never were to begin with.

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by houghtam

Well we knew that already.

But you never were to begin with.

Genius post of the day. Issues of this thread are addressed so well in this post of yours, that I feel we can now end this conversation.

/closethread

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

Obama lost 7 million votes from 08 to now. He got his ass kicked in between. What's next? Not bad news for the GOP, methinks. Obama bled votes and barely got out alive, and the media are hiding by making up garbage about the mighty Latino amnesty vote (even though Latino polls continually show that amnesty isn't a big issue with them).

Dream on, dude.

You call coming a hair's breadth from sweeping the battleground states on the way to 332 electoral votes "barely getting out alive?"

L0L!

Your denial and delusions are pure comedy.

And, BTW, where are these "Latino polls" of yours?

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by baja

With the power of the emerging minorities it will be hard to defeat the party of big government with lots of entitlement programs.

Whites were 72% of the electorate here. It was them that gave Obama the victory, regardless of the manufactured Latino-hype the MSM decided to engage in. There are other angles to consider, if one wishes to take an off-the-beaten-path viewpoint: secular vote, elderly vote, etc. The media have been hyping gays and Latinos, so it goes without saying they'd hype one of their pet causes.

This goes against the basic principles of the Republican Party thus without taking this trend into account they will go the way of the albatross.

As I said, the media are heavily and unduly hyping the Latino angle. But yes, statistically, blacks and Latinos are disproportionately more likely to get on welfare. However, if one reads the GOP platform, you'll see it has nothing about cutting welfare. It said they want to get people off of welfare by creating jobs, and nothing more. Thus the I'm-skerred-of-losing-welfare meme is entirely of liberal manufacture. Consider also it was the Democrats that signed off on welfare reform, booting millions off the rolls. Not the evil, cold-hearted GOP.

The country can not afford entitlements and a insanely bloated military so the only hope is to reign in the industrial military complex.

No we cannot, but both parties need to stop using them as a carrot to dangle for votes. It gets them votes in the short term but costs the country in the long term. The military is not "insanely bloated," I don't know where you get that from. I also think those who claim this fail to understand the responsibility America has in maintaining world stability.

[TheElusiveKyleOrton]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

BS they are underdeveloped humans with a soul. You watch someday we reach a point as humans where things like abortion don't exist anymore. maybe we wont live to see it but it will happen.

You're wrong.

Scientifically prove that "they have a soul." That's ****ing moronic.

Also, it won't happen. Not ever. Maybe in other countries, but in America? With the movement toward MORE personal freedom? Yeah, no. Not going to happen.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

The military is not "insanely bloated," I don't know where you get that from.

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

I also think those who claim this fail to understand the responsibility America has in maintaining world stability.

According to whom? Oh yeah - imperialists such as yourself.

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

You call coming a hair's breadth from sweeping the battleground states on the way to 332 electoral votes "barely getting out alive?"

L0L!

Your denial and delusions are pure comedy.

And, BTW, where are these "Latino polls" of yours?

Well I guess if you can't add votes, I don't know what to tell you.

In 2010:

Latinos rank education, jobs and health care as the top three voting issues this election cycle, according to the survey. Immigration ranks as the fifth most important issue to registered Latino voters.


And

They found that 53 percent of Latino voters surveyed listed job creation and the economy as their top issue, while 35 percent said immigration reform was their major concern. Education and health care came in next as the top priorities.

Even in this biased poll by a Latino lobbying group, immigration STILL wasn't tops.


Why did you ask me about where I get the Latino voting issue thing? Because you never bothered to get off your duff and read about it yourself. You let the media and Democratic Party leadership pull you by the chain. They intentionally put forth the false idea that the Latino vote not only hinges on immigration, but also that wooing this amnesty-driven vote is so key it overrides the interests of the American worker by legalizing those taking millions of jobs from unemployed Americans. You cannot cater to the former without shooting the other. You simply cannot.

And why would Democrats spit in the face of the American worker and let illegal aliens take American jobs by the millions if they were so "pro-worker" to begin with? I grew up hearing how "pro-worker" the Democrats were, and it wasn't that long into adulthood that I realized all their "pro-poor person" stuff was a total sham. Disillusioned by Clinton, I quit the Democratic party circa 2004 and went Independent.

Demographics projections for this country are based on illegals who are here staying here and millions more coming for decades with those staying here staying for the most part. You do know this, right? THIS is the excuse that the political and economic elites in this country are using to justify kicking working Americans in the ass and giving jobs away to people who will do those jobs for far less money. We do not "need" to cater to these people, especially when it is detrimental to Americans to do so both in terms of unemployment rates and losses from the tax base.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

Disillusioned by Clinton, I quit the Democratic party circa 2004 and went Independent.

Was that when you got your dick cut off, too?

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by W*GS

According to whom? Oh yeah - imperialists such as yourself.

Be decent and intelligent enough to shrink your ridiciulously bloated graphics. I already know about military expenditures per percentage compared to other nations. Who doesn't after all, when it is trumpeted all over the place by pinkos and libnuts screaming fire at every opportunity, as if party X spending more than party Y means that party X is necessarily evil?

I've had the discussion with you already about 'imperialism,' yet instead of conceding that you have little to no position to grapple over (lifting bull**** lists off of leftist websites and pretending that the US had no right to help stop Syria from invading and butchering the Jews), you act as if nothing was said and you keep parroting the same rote leftist debunked drivel, attacking Americans for what you give the sovereign right of other nations to do: invade other people. Needless to say, you do this without explanation and instead go back to parroting rote one-liners about 'imperialist pigs.'

And then you recoil in wonder why you're suspected of being a Marxist.

Somewhere along the line when one gets enough information to show that his previous viewpoints were wrong, he reconsiders his positions. Instead of digesting this information and altering your view of the things in light of that, you dismiss it all (even though you have no ability to debunk it) and cling rigidly to what you believed what you did when you were first exposed to new information, as if you received no new information.

At the worst this blind, dismissive clinging makes you a bigot, and at best, it means you're ineducably stupid. Take your pick.

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by W*GS

Was that when you got your dick cut off, too?

Ouch, the wounded animal lashes out.

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by TheElusiveKyleOrton

Scientifically prove that "they have a soul." That's ****ing moronic.

Such nonsensical standards could also be used to justify killing already born humans.

I'm not an anti-abortion stalwart by any means, but to argue for it by citing the limits of science is simply stupid.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

Ouch, the wounded animal lashes out.

You're the one missing parts, epicDramaFail. 'Course, all it took was a pair of tweezers.

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by W*GS

You're the one missing parts, epicDramaFail. 'Course, all it took was a pair of tweezers.

Yet again you're reduced to one-liner insinuations. My point made.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

Be decent and intelligent enough to shrink your ridiciulously bloated graphics. I already know about military expenditures per percentage compared to other nations. Who doesn't after all, when it is trumpeted all over the place by pinkos and libnuts screaming fire at every opportunity, as if party X spending more than party Y means that party X is necessarily evil?

You claimed that the US military is not "insanely bloated". I showed that it is. All your blather doesn't obscure the fact that you're wrong, I showed that you're wrong, and you're a blowhard dickhead.

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

I've had the discussion with you already about 'imperialism,' yet instead of conceding that you have little to no position to grapple over (lifting bull**** lists off of leftist websites and pretending that the US had no right to help stop Syria from invading and butchering the Jews),

The Assad regime in Syria is the Syrian people's problem, not ours. And if Syria invades Israel, that's Israel's problem, not ours. Israel can defend itself - why do you believe that they cannot?

You merely want the world "stable" (i.e., favorable to US interests) and have no interest in democracy, liberty, freedom, individual rights, etc. for anyone.

In other words, an imperialist.

Your own words prove me right, no matter how much you try to cloud the issue with reams of bull****.

PS - Go ahead, keep calling me a Marxist. That just shows what a ****ing moron you are. It's 2012, not 1952, and your lame-ass red-baiting is generations out of style.