why bankers rule the world - The Orange Mane

mhgaffney · 11-09-2012, 03:58 PM

It's the interest, stupid!

I thought I had heard it all, until I stumbled onto this fine article by economist Ellen Brown.

Not to be missed!

MHG

http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle32975.htm

chadta · 11-09-2012, 04:52 PM

thanks Gaf

W*GS · 11-09-2012, 04:57 PM

In gaffe-speak, "bankers" means "Jews".

houghtam · 11-09-2012, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W*GS

In gaffe-speak, "bankers" means "Jews".

Shouldn't he have been banned for speculating on certain things that TJ specifically said not to?

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpos...7&postcount=84

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=73623

Arkie · 11-09-2012, 05:31 PM

Our government still has the power to issue debt-free money like we did under Lincoln and JFK.

Dennis Kucinich has a three step plan:

Incorporate the Federal Reserve System into the U.S. Treasury where all new money is created by government as money, not interest-bearing debt, and spent into circulation to promote the general welfare; monitored to be neither inflationary nor deflationary.
Halt the banks' privilege to create money by ending the fractional reserve system in a gentle and elegant way. All the past monetized private credit is converted into U.S. government money. Banks then act as intermediaries accepting savings deposits and loaning them out to borrowers; what people think they do now.
Spend new money into circulation on infrastructure, including education and healthcare needed for a growing society, starting with the $3 trillion that the American Institute of Architects estimate is needed for infrastructure repair (roads, bridges, railroads, water systems, sewer systems, etc.); creating good jobs across the nation, re-invigorating local economies and re-funding government at all levels.

IHaveALight · 11-09-2012, 07:36 PM

McKinley, Garfield, Lincoln and Kennedy. All had it out for the banksters, all were assassinated... hmmmmm

baja · 11-09-2012, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by IHaveALight

McKinley, Garfield, Lincoln and Kennedy. All had it out for the banksters, all were assassinated... hmmmmm

They don't do that any more, now they get themselves appointed leader of governments such as was the case in Italy & Greece.

http://euobserver.com/economic/114299

Crushaholic · 11-09-2012, 09:03 PM

Welcome to your life
There's no turning back

....

Everybody wants to rule the world...

mhgaffney · 11-10-2012, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W*GS

In gaffe-speak, "bankers" means "Jews".

This post by you-know-who is very disrespectful of Jews.

It is also false. One of the whistleblowers featured in my latest book Black 9/11 is a Jewish banker named Bill Bergman.

Bergman worked at the Chicago Fed for 14 years -- until he was fired for asking probing questions about 9/11.

Bergman contacted me to tell me his story -- after reading one of my papers on line. He has been very supportive of my research and wants a new 9/11 investigation - since in his words "we have not been told the full truth."

MHG

nyuk nyuk · 11-10-2012, 12:40 PM

IMO US immigration policy and border enforcement is primarily set by those in position to make a great financial windfall by bringing in people from such desperate straits that it makes it very easy to exploit them by paying them much lesser wages than an American can work for.

You cannot be pro-worker and pro-amnesty at the same time, neither can you pretend that you cannot enact and enforce legal measures to encourage self-deportation, and this condemnation is aimed at both parties.

In the end, profit and vote-purchasing of these prospective amnestied Americans are clearly the motivation for those at the top, and the American worker is being trodden underfoot as a result.

But yes, the primary culprits in this scheme are now Democrats.

nyuk nyuk · 11-10-2012, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

Bergman worked at the Chicago Fed for 14 years -- until he was fired for asking probing questions about 9/11.

Oh, you. You're not even a Broncos fan, are you?

nyuk nyuk · 11-10-2012, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IHaveALight

McKinley, Garfield, Lincoln and Kennedy. All had it out for the banksters, all were assassinated... hmmmmm

I had a great-great grandfather who was a professional photographer by trade and actually photographed the Garfield funeral.

nyuk nyuk · 11-10-2012, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houghtam

Shouldn't he have been banned for speculating on certain things that TJ specifically said not to?

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpos...7&postcount=84

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=73623

Are you one of the Mane's loyal hall monitors?

W*GS · 11-10-2012, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

This post by you-know-who is very disrespectful of Jews.

Hardly. Oh, and my name isn't "Voldemort".

I know you're terrified of me, because I call out your crap and show it for the utter and total BS it is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

Bergman contacted me to tell me his story -- after reading one of my papers on line. He has been very supportive of my research and wants a new 9/11 investigation - since in his words "we have not been told the full truth."

Does he agree with your ~~red-mercury-powered-pure-fusion-mini-nukes~~ nano-thermite controlled demolition of the WTC "theory"? Does he agree that the US government is actually the ZOG? Does he know that you won't tell us how many Jews died in the Holocaust? Does he know that you think Venus is a comet ejected from Jupiter in Old Testament times?

SoCalBronco · 11-10-2012, 01:17 PM

"Bankers"....lol, Herr Gaff is speaking in code again.

Odysseus · 11-11-2012, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkie

Our government still has the power to issue debt-free money like we did under Lincoln and JFK.

Dennis Kucinich has a three step plan:

Incorporate the Federal Reserve System into the U.S. Treasury where all new money is created by government as money, not interest-bearing debt, and spent into circulation to promote the general welfare; monitored to be neither inflationary nor deflationary.
Halt the banks' privilege to create money by ending the fractional reserve system in a gentle and elegant way. All the past monetized private credit is converted into U.S. government money. Banks then act as intermediaries accepting savings deposits and loaning them out to borrowers; what people think they do now.
Spend new money into circulation on infrastructure, including education and healthcare needed for a growing society, starting with the $3 trillion that the American Institute of Architects estimate is needed for infrastructure repair (roads, bridges, railroads, water systems, sewer systems, etc.); creating good jobs across the nation, re-invigorating local economies and re-funding government at all levels.

How would this actually be put into play? A bill?

mhgaffney · 11-11-2012, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W*GS

Hardly. Oh, and my name isn't "Voldemort".

I know you're terrified of me, because I call out your crap and show it for the utter and total BS it is.

Does he agree with your ~~red-mercury-powered-pure-fusion-mini-nukes~~ nano-thermite controlled demolition of the WTC "theory"? Does he agree that the US government is actually the ZOG? Does he know that you won't tell us how many Jews died in the Holocaust? Does he know that you think Venus is a comet ejected from Jupiter in Old Testament times?

No -- you are just a common run of the mill jerk.

Bergman can speak for himself. Why don't you ask him?

Find Out What Happened When a Federal Reserve Employee Questioned Unusual Currency Movements Before 9-11

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com...ederal_15.html

W*GS · 11-11-2012, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

No -- you are just a common run of the mill jerk.

You're a run-of-the-mill Jew-hater who styles himself a "peace activist", with a Messiah complex and serious mental health issues.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhgaffney

Bergman can speak for himself. Why don't you ask him?

Does he agree with your ~~red-mercury-powered-pure-fusion-mini-nukes~~ nano-thermite controlled demolition of the WTC "theory"? Does he agree that the US government is actually the ZOG? Does he know that you won't tell us how many Jews died in the Holocaust? Does he know that you think Venus is a comet ejected from Jupiter in Old Testament times?

Arkie · 11-11-2012, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Odysseus

How would this actually be put into play? A bill?

HR 2990: The NEED Act

Odysseus · 11-11-2012, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkie

HR 2990: The NEED Act

Prognosis:

This bill has a 0% chance of being enacted. The following factors were considered:

This bill was a re-introduction of H.R. 6550 (111th) from the previous session of Congress. (-3%)

The sponsor is a member of the minority party. (-2%)

Just 4% of all House of Representatives bills in 2009–2010 were enacted.

Thanks for the link!

It allows you to write to congressman to support the bill. It takes maybe a handful of mouse clicks and then you can support or oppose it.

sisterhellfyre · 11-11-2012, 09:12 PM

Thanks, Gaff, that article was a good read. I've been fascinated by the concept of North Dakota's state bank since I first heard of it, and this gave a little more information. Last week I voted for the only State Treasurer candidate who mentioned establishing a state bank here in Oregon. I hope the idea catches on in more places.

Arkie · 11-12-2012, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Odysseus

[I]Prognosis:

This bill has a 0% chance of being enacted.

I'm just a bill. Yes, I'm only a bill.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 11-12-2012, 12:47 PM

mhgaffney · 11-12-2012, 04:01 PM

If you liked the piece by Ellen Brown -- you might be interested to learn the following.

Please sign a petition urging Obama to name her to his council of economic advisers.
MHG

Dear Public Banking Supporters:

We need a Main Street Economist who advocates for public banks on President Obama's Council of Economic Advisors. Who better to be this person than Ellen Brown, Chair of the Public Banking Institute and author of Web of Debt?

Please help promote public banking by signing this petition (see link below) requesting President Obama to nominate Ellen Brown to the Council of Economic Advisors. With over 100 articles on this subject alone, Ellen has earned the right to contribute her views on public banking as part of this preeminent council.

Encourage your friends/family to support this as well. If they ask you what public banking is, tell them that it is the way Germany is funding its solar installations in order to end its reliance on nuclear power; it is the way that Japan provides a mechanism for long term savings; and, it is the way that New Zealand provides low cost banking services through its post offices.

Public banking is what we can do to counteract the artificial scarcity imposed on our country by Wall Street banks.

We only have a few weeks to make this happen -- you can make a difference by adding your name to this! Please sign:

http://signon.org/sign/president-oba...ailing_id=6823

Don't forget to spread the word on Facebook and/or Twitter!

For more information be sure to sign up for our monthly newsletter at www.publicbankinginstitute.org. Thank you for your support for public banking.

Marc Armstrong
Executive Director
Public Banking Institute

sisterhellfyre · 11-12-2012, 04:09 PM

Signed and done. Thanks for the link. :-)

11-09-2012, 03:58 PM	#1
mhgaffney Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 9,764	why bankers rule the world It's the interest, stupid! I thought I had heard it all, until I stumbled onto this fine article by economist Ellen Brown. Not to be missed! MHG http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle32975.htm

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Arkie Ring of Famer Gggggrrrrrr rrrraaaahhh Arrrrhhhn. Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 9,080 Adopt-a-Bronco: Quinton Carter	Our government still has the power to issue debt-free money like we did under Lincoln and JFK. Dennis Kucinich has a three step plan: Incorporate the Federal Reserve System into the U.S. Treasury where all new money is created by government as money, not interest-bearing debt, and spent into circulation to promote the general welfare; monitored to be neither inflationary nor deflationary. Halt the banks' privilege to create money by ending the fractional reserve system in a gentle and elegant way. All the past monetized private credit is converted into U.S. government money. Banks then act as intermediaries accepting savings deposits and loaning them out to borrowers; what people think they do now. Spend new money into circulation on infrastructure, including education and healthcare needed for a growing society, starting with the $3 trillion that the American Institute of Architects estimate is needed for infrastructure repair (roads, bridges, railroads, water systems, sewer systems, etc.); creating good jobs across the nation, re-invigorating local economies and re-funding government at all levels.

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11-09-2012, 04:52 PM	#2
chadta Atomic Meatball Keeper Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 2,837 Adopt-a-Bronco: The Mc Rib	thanks Gaf

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W*GS Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Earth Posts: 19,499	In gaffe-speak, "bankers" means "Jews".

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IHaveALight the sun is gone Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Denver Posts: 1,248 Adopt-a-Bronco: ElvisVonWolfPak	McKinley, Garfield, Lincoln and Kennedy. All had it out for the banksters, all were assassinated... hmmmmm

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Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,039	Welcome to your life There's no turning back .... Everybody wants to rule the world...

11-10-2012, 12:40 PM	#10
nyuk nyuk Owns scary-looking rifle Obstructionist Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: 5280 Posts: 2,828 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	IMO US immigration policy and border enforcement is primarily set by those in position to make a great financial windfall by bringing in people from such desperate straits that it makes it very easy to exploit them by paying them much lesser wages than an American can work for. You cannot be pro-worker and pro-amnesty at the same time, neither can you pretend that you cannot enact and enforce legal measures to encourage self-deportation, and this condemnation is aimed at both parties. In the end, profit and vote-purchasing of these prospective amnestied Americans are clearly the motivation for those at the top, and the American worker is being trodden underfoot as a result. But yes, the primary culprits in this scheme are now Democrats.

11-11-2012, 09:12 PM	#21
sisterhellfyre Some days it's not worth fighting the clowns under my bed. Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,504	Thanks, Gaff, that article was a good read. I've been fascinated by the concept of North Dakota's state bank since I first heard of it, and this gave a little more information. Last week I voted for the only State Treasurer candidate who mentioned establishing a state bank here in Oregon. I hope the idea catches on in more places.

11-12-2012, 12:47 PM	#23
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11-12-2012, 04:01 PM	#24
mhgaffney Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 9,764	If you liked the piece by Ellen Brown -- you might be interested to learn the following. Please sign a petition urging Obama to name her to his council of economic advisers. MHG Dear Public Banking Supporters: We need a Main Street Economist who advocates for public banks on President Obama's Council of Economic Advisors. Who better to be this person than Ellen Brown, Chair of the Public Banking Institute and author of Web of Debt? Please help promote public banking by signing this petition (see link below) requesting President Obama to nominate Ellen Brown to the Council of Economic Advisors. With over 100 articles on this subject alone, Ellen has earned the right to contribute her views on public banking as part of this preeminent council. Encourage your friends/family to support this as well. If they ask you what public banking is, tell them that it is the way Germany is funding its solar installations in order to end its reliance on nuclear power; it is the way that Japan provides a mechanism for long term savings; and, it is the way that New Zealand provides low cost banking services through its post offices. Public banking is what we can do to counteract the artificial scarcity imposed on our country by Wall Street banks. We only have a few weeks to make this happen -- you can make a difference by adding your name to this! Please sign: http://signon.org/sign/president-oba...ailing_id=6823 Don't forget to spread the word on Facebook and/or Twitter! For more information be sure to sign up for our monthly newsletter at www.publicbankinginstitute.org. Thank you for your support for public banking. Marc Armstrong Executive Director Public Banking Institute

11-12-2012, 04:09 PM	#25
sisterhellfyre Some days it's not worth fighting the clowns under my bed. Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,504	Signed and done. Thanks for the link. :-)