NFL Still Bans Denver Broncos From Marijuana Use Even When It’s Legal; Right Or Wrong? - The Orange Mane

DAN_BRONCO_FAN · 11-09-2012, 11:16 AM

The states of Colorado and Washington have voted to make recreational marijuana legal to 21-year-old residents as long as they only posses one ounce at a time. However, the NFL has told its players that live in these states they are not allowed to use marijuana despite the new laws. Is it right or wrong for the NFL to still make it a banned substance when it is legal in some players’ home states?

What does this mean for Denver Broncos and Seattle Seahawks players?

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has made it clear that these states legalizing marijuana will not change anything with the way the league handles drug testing and suspensions. Marijuana has always been on the NFL’s substance abuse list and if tested positive for marijuana, a player faces up to a four-game suspension. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello says that’s not about the change

Read more at http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2012/1...qbymkJcG7JO.99

DAN_BRONCO_FAN · 11-09-2012, 11:17 AM

darn shame manning cant light a doobie up after a win

STBumpkin · 11-09-2012, 11:18 AM

Military members in WA and CO cannot use it either. I agree with this, organizations should be able to make their own rules on this. I think something along the lines of our 12 hour bottle-to-brief rule should apply.

RhymesayersDU · 11-09-2012, 11:19 AM

Organizations can make rules as they see fit, IMO.

Smiling Assassin27 · 11-09-2012, 11:19 AM

what a pity. could've been a HUGE FA recruiting tool.

sgbfan · 11-09-2012, 11:19 AM

I agree with it. Its an unfair competitive advantage. Think of the FA signings we could get!

Man-Goblin · 11-09-2012, 11:19 AM

No fun league.

Al Wilson · 11-09-2012, 11:22 AM

NFL is its own league, and every player that is in the league has to follow its rules. Simple as it is.

socalorado · 11-09-2012, 11:25 AM

What about employers hiring in these states?
Do they have the same standards that the military and Soprts organizations have?

Beantown Bronco · 11-09-2012, 11:26 AM

Nothing they can do now. They allowed it to be included in the CBA last year.

If the players really want it, then they can deal with it the next time the CBA comes up for renewal. Maybe by then, more states will jump on board and it might make more sense to negotiate that point.

BroncoLifer · 11-09-2012, 11:27 AM

It's not just the NFL -- the USA still bans marijuana. Generally speaking, the Feds are not impressed by state laws that conflict with federal.

Bigdawg26 · 11-09-2012, 11:27 AM

You can't smoke (which is legal now), but you can get wasted before and after every game!

Beantown Bronco · 11-09-2012, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by socalorado

What about employers hiring in these states?
Do they have the same standards that the military and Soprts organizations have?

They need to check their employment contracts, collective bargaining agreements, etc. Everyone in the private sector is different.

elsid13 · 11-09-2012, 11:27 AM

It remains a federal crime.

DBroncos4life · 11-09-2012, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sgbfan

I agree with it. Its an unfair competitive advantage. Think of the FA signings we could get!

How is it any different then the states that have no state sales taxes or other tax laws that favor the rich?

Garcia Bronco · 11-09-2012, 11:32 AM

It's up to the NFL regardless of the Colorado Constitutional Law. The Feds have no jurisdiction over this provided it stays in the state.

uplink · 11-09-2012, 11:33 AM

It is not performance enhancing. They shouldn't be able to ban players from using it in states where is legal. It now has the same status as alcohol these states, a legal drug. Its like the NFL banning alcohol use for its players.

BroncoLifer · 11-09-2012, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

It's up to the NFL regardless of the Colorado Constitutional Law. The Feds have no jurisdiction over this provided it stays in the state.

You don't think the NFL is engaged in interstate commerce?

spiralism · 11-09-2012, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DAN_BRONCO_FAN

The states of Colorado and Washington have voted to make recreational marijuana legal to 21-year-old residents as long as they only posses one ounce at a time. However, the NFL has told its players that live in these states they are not allowed to use marijuana despite the new laws. Is it right or wrong for the NFL to still make it a banned substance when it is legal in some players’ home states?

What does this mean for Denver Broncos and Seattle Seahawks players?

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has made it clear that these states legalizing marijuana will not change anything with the way the league handles drug testing and suspensions. Marijuana has always been on the NFL’s substance abuse list and if tested positive for marijuana, a player faces up to a four-game suspension. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello says that’s not about the change

Read more at http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2012/1...qbymkJcG7JO.99

Well that's OK in fairness, substances banned by a sporting organisation arent necessarily illegal after all so the NFL is entitled to not allow it.

Garcia Bronco · 11-09-2012, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoLifer

It's not just the NFL -- the USA still bans marijuana. Generally speaking, the Feds are not impressed by state laws that conflict with federal.

That's now up for legal debate. The President won't touch it though in any significant way IMO. It's now a big source of revenue in our state.

socalorado · 11-09-2012, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

They need to check their employment contracts, collective bargaining agreements, etc. Everyone in the private sector is different.

So Police, Fire, Nurses, Dr.s can be stoned on the job if its part of their union or employment contracts?
Just asking. I really dont know.

Garcia Bronco · 11-09-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoLifer

You don't think the NFL is engaged in interstate commerce?

They are, but I was commenting on two issues. The second being the Federal Government's right to regulate a commodity in Colorado or any state.

DAN_BRONCO_FAN · 11-09-2012, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by elsid13

It remains a federal crime.

heres a good question

WHY?
how is marijuana more dangerous than alcohol mho it should have the same laws as drinking alcohol ie no driving while intoxicated

BroncoLifer · 11-09-2012, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

That's now up for legal debate. The President won't touch it though in any significant way IMO. It's now a big source of revenue in our state.

There is no "legal debate". There may be a "should we actually enforce the laws?" debate, but that's a different thing.

Beantown Bronco · 11-09-2012, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by socalorado

So Police, Fire, Nurses, Dr.s can be stoned on the job if its part of their union or employment contracts?
Just asking. I really dont know.

Technically, yes, but it would NEVER be written in to a union contract for those types of workers that doing so was acceptable. One thing those folks will always have to concede as point #1 in their negotiation of those contracts are related to consequences of finding any trace of drugs (legal or not), alcohol, etc. in their blood while on the job.

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11-09-2012, 11:16 AM	#1
DAN_BRONCO_FAN golden knife winner winner of the golden knife award Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: colorado springs area Posts: 2,822 Adopt-a-Bronco: ray lewis knife	NFL Still Bans Denver Broncos From Marijuana Use Even When It’s Legal; Right Or Wrong? The states of Colorado and Washington have voted to make recreational marijuana legal to 21-year-old residents as long as they only posses one ounce at a time. However, the NFL has told its players that live in these states they are not allowed to use marijuana despite the new laws. Is it right or wrong for the NFL to still make it a banned substance when it is legal in some players’ home states? What does this mean for Denver Broncos and Seattle Seahawks players? NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has made it clear that these states legalizing marijuana will not change anything with the way the league handles drug testing and suspensions. Marijuana has always been on the NFL’s substance abuse list and if tested positive for marijuana, a player faces up to a four-game suspension. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello says that’s not about the change Read more at http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2012/1...qbymkJcG7JO.99

11-09-2012, 11:17 AM	#2
DAN_BRONCO_FAN golden knife winner winner of the golden knife award Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: colorado springs area Posts: 2,822 Adopt-a-Bronco: ray lewis knife	darn shame manning cant light a doobie up after a win

11-09-2012, 11:18 AM	#3
STBumpkin burnin' it at both ends Livin' The Dream Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bowie, MD Posts: 757 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rod Smith	Military members in WA and CO cannot use it either. I agree with this, organizations should be able to make their own rules on this. I think something along the lines of our 12 hour bottle-to-brief rule should apply.

11-09-2012, 11:19 AM	#4
RhymesayersDU Go Broncos, Nuggets, Rox GANGNAM STYLE Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back In The 303! Posts: 14,815 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ty Lawson	Organizations can make rules as they see fit, IMO.

11-09-2012, 11:19 AM	#5
Smiling Assassin27 STOP! KIPER TIME! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 10,983 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	what a pity. could've been a HUGE FA recruiting tool.

11-09-2012, 11:19 AM	#6
sgbfan Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,002	I agree with it. Its an unfair competitive advantage. Think of the FA signings we could get!

11-09-2012, 11:19 AM	#7
Man-Goblin Giving You The Business Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 5,590 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	No fun league.

11-09-2012, 11:22 AM	#8
Al Wilson Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 943	NFL is its own league, and every player that is in the league has to follow its rules. Simple as it is.

11-09-2012, 11:25 AM	#9
socalorado Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,212	What about employers hiring in these states? Do they have the same standards that the military and Soprts organizations have?

11-09-2012, 11:26 AM	#10
Beantown Bronco Athletic Supporter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mass Posts: 19,047 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	Nothing they can do now. They allowed it to be included in the CBA last year. If the players really want it, then they can deal with it the next time the CBA comes up for renewal. Maybe by then, more states will jump on board and it might make more sense to negotiate that point.

11-09-2012, 11:27 AM	#11
BroncoLifer Living the Dream Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Boulder County Posts: 1,256 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	It's not just the NFL -- the USA still bans marijuana. Generally speaking, the Feds are not impressed by state laws that conflict with federal.

11-09-2012, 11:27 AM	#12
Bigdawg26 Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,477 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	You can't smoke (which is legal now), but you can get wasted before and after every game!

11-09-2012, 11:27 AM	#14
elsid13 Lost In Space Bóg, Honor, Ojczyzna Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: DC Posts: 19,099	It remains a federal crime.

11-09-2012, 11:32 AM	#16
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	It's up to the NFL regardless of the Colorado Constitutional Law. The Feds have no jurisdiction over this provided it stays in the state.

11-09-2012, 11:33 AM	#17
uplink Ring of Famer Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,815	It is not performance enhancing. They shouldn't be able to ban players from using it in states where is legal. It now has the same status as alcohol these states, a legal drug. Its like the NFL banning alcohol use for its players.