What will it take to get a bye? - The Orange Mane

LetsGoBroncos · 11-09-2012, 08:35 AM

If we can win this week, I think we finish 12-4 or 13-3. I actually think we could run the table but you have to think we will slip up somewhere

Home games: KC, SD, TB, Cleveland
Road games: Carolina, KC, Oakland, Baltimore

Win this Sunday, get to 6-3 I don't see 2 losses on the schedule the rest of the way. The question is does 12-4 get us a bye? Considering we don't have the tiebreaker against NE or Houston I don't know. Neither of them have real hard schedules and Houston would have to go 4-4 to finish 11-5. I don't see that happening.

hades · 11-09-2012, 08:43 AM

All Denver needs to worry about is winning the AFC West, the rest will work out just fine.

baja · 11-09-2012, 08:49 AM

Somehow I thought the TB game was away. Since it's a home game it doesn't look as much a potential loss as I had though.

This week may be the toughest game left.

MagicHef · 11-09-2012, 08:51 AM

We don't need to get ahead of both HOU and NE, just one of them. Luckily, they play each other. NE also plays SF, which could easily be a loss. I think we can drop one game and still have a good chance of getting a bye.

v2micca · 11-09-2012, 08:51 AM

I was actually discussing this with my brother the other day. I think it would take a 13-3 record from the Broncos to get either the Number 1 or Number 2 seed in the AFC.

Assuming we went 12-4, I think the most likely loss would be at Baltimore in week 15. That would put us on the losing side of head to head tie-breakers with the 3 most likely teams to also be vying for the post season bye week, i.e. New England, Houston, and Baltimore. Given that I expect at least two of those teams to finish with a 12-4 record or better, we may have to be content in just taking our division and hoping for a good run in the Play-offs.

Beantown Bronco · 11-09-2012, 08:54 AM

No worries. We're not going to lose again until Fall 2013.

MagicHef · 11-09-2012, 08:56 AM

Baltimore's schedule is like ours, but backwards. They've played CLE twice, KC, and get OAK this week. After this week, they get PIT, SD, PIT, WAS, DEN, NYG, CIN.

MagicHef · 11-09-2012, 08:59 AM

Meanwhile, PIT's schedule is pretty easy from here on out. I'd be surprised if Baltimore hangs on to win the AFCN.

RedskinBronco · 11-09-2012, 09:01 AM

shoot for 12-4. That should wrap up a top 2 seed and avoid having to travel to NE or PITT. Not worried about traveling to Houston...

13-3 is not what I want because the Broncos will lose once more at least and I do not want it to be in the playoffs. Ideally, run off a few more wins and maybe drop one late in the year and refocus for what matters...

LetsGoBroncos · 11-09-2012, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

We don't need to get ahead of both HOU and NE, just one of them. Luckily, they play each other. NE also plays SF, which could easily be a loss. I think we can drop one game and still have a good chance of getting a bye.

Right, that was kinda my question. If we were to finish 12-4 do we think NE will lose 2 more games?

Rother8 · 11-09-2012, 09:09 AM

Texans remaining schedule:
5 of the last 8 are on the road. The Colts are getting hot and the Patriots and Bears are on there too so we'll see. They'd need to lose 3 of the 8 and Denver would need to win out to get the higher seed.

AT BEARS
JAGUARS
AT LIONS
AT TITANS
AT PATRIOTS
COLTS
VIKINGS
AT COLTS

Patriots (5-3) last 8 games:

Bills
Colts
@Jets
@Dolphins
Texans
49ers
@Jags
Dolphins

Basically Denver could maybe afford to lose one game and go 12-4, but it would probably take the Pats losing twice from here on out. If we could run the table, it looks good to me but AFCW is way more realistic.

MagicHef · 11-09-2012, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by LetsGoBroncos

Right, that was kinda my question. If we were to finish 12-4 do we think NE will lose 2 more games?

I think they'll lose to both HOU and SF. I also think we won't lose again.

NFLBRONCO · 11-09-2012, 09:50 AM

I see these as our toughest games Car Balt SD. To get a bye we'd need to only lose 1 game or win out would be better. We don't have head to head with either NE or Hou so that could drop us to third seed. I think its too early to talk about bye. Oak might be a challenge short week road game.

SonOfLe-loLang · 11-09-2012, 09:55 AM

lets just worry about getting in? Lets just play great football at the end of the season and the rest will play itself out. Ask the Giants how much byes and home field matter

Al Wilson · 11-09-2012, 10:03 AM

We have to win out. I think the Broncos and Patriots will be 1 - 2 in the AFC

canadianbroncosfan · 11-09-2012, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

lets just worry about getting in? Lets just play great football at the end of the season and the rest will play itself out. Ask the Giants how much byes and home field matter

I agree with this. Wild Card Weekend, Divisional Games, I don't care.

That being said, anyone else think that a win next week and the AFC west is pretty much ours?

Assuming we both win this week, a win next week and we're 7-3 and SD would be 5-5 which is essentially three games behind us as they'd lose the head to head. Mathematically I understand it wouldn't be wrapped up but I think from a realist point of view it would be.

Beantown Bronco · 11-09-2012, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by canadianbroncosfan

Assuming we both win this week, a win next week and we're 7-3 and SD would be 5-5 which is essentially three games behind us as they'd lose the head to head. Mathematically I understand it wouldn't be wrapped up but I think from a realist point of view it would be.

I can't believe a Broncos fan would say this, after what's happened in just the last 5 years.

razorwire77 · 11-09-2012, 11:51 AM

It would be really tough. Right now New England and Houston both hold tiebreaker advantages. Both the Pats and Texans have a couple of tough games each, but overall fairly weak schedules (like the Broncos). To get a bye Denver absolutely has to beat Baltimore and go 12-4.

broncocalijohn · 11-09-2012, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by baja

Somehow I thought the TB game was away. Since it's a home game it doesn't look as much a potential loss as I had though.

This week may be the toughest game left.

You are forgetting At Baltimore. Have we ever won there? That is one of probably 2 losses. Run the table in the West is the most important. If we get the 3rd seed, we will play the weakest wild card team at home. We also would play the #2 seed the following week with a home win. WHile the #3 seed doesn't get a bye, it sure is important on the following two weeks of play. Also important to have Patriots slip below us. They would need to do that by a full game since they beat us earlier in the season.

broncocalijohn · 11-09-2012, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

I can't believe a Broncos fan would say this, after what's happened in just the last 5 years.

exactly! As I was reading this post, I had a horrible flash back of that season. 3 games up with 3 to go...and ****ed up.

baja · 11-09-2012, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

You are forgetting At Baltimore. Have we ever won there? That is one of probably 2 losses. Run the table in the West is the most important. If we get the 3rd seed, we will play the weakest wild card team at home. We also would play the #2 seed the following week with a home win. WHile the #3 seed doesn't get a bye, it sure is important on the following two weeks of play. Also important to have Patriots slip below us. They would need to do that by a full game since they beat us earlier in the season.

I think we beat Bmore because they have given us fits and Payton and the rest of the team knows that The whole team will be up big time for that game.

DBroncos4life · 11-09-2012, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

You are forgetting At Baltimore. Have we ever won there? That is one of probably 2 losses. Run the table in the West is the most important. If we get the 3rd seed, we will play the weakest wild card team at home. We also would play the #2 seed the following week with a home win. WHile the #3 seed doesn't get a bye, it sure is important on the following two weeks of play. Also important to have Patriots slip below us. They would need to do that by a full game since they beat us earlier in the season.

Manning changes things. Maybe the other QBs we had couldn't beat a much younger D but, with Manning and the aging Ravens D we have a solid chance.

Heyneck · 11-09-2012, 12:45 PM

I don't know about a bye... but if we win out we should have a great chance at that. For me, our biggest test will be the ravens. It's about time we beat them again! What was our last win against them? 2006? The game were Tatum Bell carried Ray Lewis on his back? Hate the Rat Birds!!!

BroncoBeavis · 11-09-2012, 01:04 PM

I think 12-4 gets it done. 11-5 not likely because of that hth loss against the Pats. Maybe if the Steelers managed to make it a 3-way tie with the Pats it might cancel out the head to head. But it'd be a crap shoot who gets the #2 then. And it's not likely the Texans are dropping to 11-5 or below (looking at their schedule)

baja · 11-09-2012, 01:19 PM

Memo; The Broncos are 5 and 3

Before we get a bye let's get into the playoffs.

11-09-2012, 08:35 AM	#1
LetsGoBroncos Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 856	What will it take to get a bye? If we can win this week, I think we finish 12-4 or 13-3. I actually think we could run the table but you have to think we will slip up somewhere Home games: KC, SD, TB, Cleveland Road games: Carolina, KC, Oakland, Baltimore Win this Sunday, get to 6-3 I don't see 2 losses on the schedule the rest of the way. The question is does 12-4 get us a bye? Considering we don't have the tiebreaker against NE or Houston I don't know. Neither of them have real hard schedules and Houston would have to go 4-4 to finish 11-5. I don't see that happening.

11-09-2012, 01:04 PM	#24
BroncoBeavis Just Draughted Lupus Methylphenthylaminus? Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 6,920	I think 12-4 gets it done. 11-5 not likely because of that hth loss against the Pats. Maybe if the Steelers managed to make it a 3-way tie with the Pats it might cancel out the head to head. But it'd be a crap shoot who gets the #2 then. And it's not likely the Texans are dropping to 11-5 or below (looking at their schedule) Last edited by BroncoBeavis; 11-09-2012 at 01:06 PM..

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11-09-2012, 08:43 AM	#2
hades Dallas biggest Bronco fan Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: They've done studies you know.... 60% of the time, it works every time Posts: 1,806	All Denver needs to worry about is winning the AFC West, the rest will work out just fine.

11-09-2012, 08:49 AM	#3
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,907 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Somehow I thought the TB game was away. Since it's a home game it doesn't look as much a potential loss as I had though. This week may be the toughest game left.

11-09-2012, 08:51 AM	#4
MagicHef Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,430 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	We don't need to get ahead of both HOU and NE, just one of them. Luckily, they play each other. NE also plays SF, which could easily be a loss. I think we can drop one game and still have a good chance of getting a bye.

11-09-2012, 08:51 AM	#5
v2micca Pro Bowler Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 686	I was actually discussing this with my brother the other day. I think it would take a 13-3 record from the Broncos to get either the Number 1 or Number 2 seed in the AFC. Assuming we went 12-4, I think the most likely loss would be at Baltimore in week 15. That would put us on the losing side of head to head tie-breakers with the 3 most likely teams to also be vying for the post season bye week, i.e. New England, Houston, and Baltimore. Given that I expect at least two of those teams to finish with a 12-4 record or better, we may have to be content in just taking our division and hoping for a good run in the Play-offs.

11-09-2012, 08:54 AM	#6
Beantown Bronco Athletic Supporter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mass Posts: 19,043 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	No worries. We're not going to lose again until Fall 2013.

11-09-2012, 08:56 AM	#7
MagicHef Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,430 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Baltimore's schedule is like ours, but backwards. They've played CLE twice, KC, and get OAK this week. After this week, they get PIT, SD, PIT, WAS, DEN, NYG, CIN.

11-09-2012, 08:59 AM	#8
MagicHef Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,430 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Meanwhile, PIT's schedule is pretty easy from here on out. I'd be surprised if Baltimore hangs on to win the AFCN.

11-09-2012, 09:01 AM	#9
RedskinBronco Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,596	shoot for 12-4. That should wrap up a top 2 seed and avoid having to travel to NE or PITT. Not worried about traveling to Houston... 13-3 is not what I want because the Broncos will lose once more at least and I do not want it to be in the playoffs. Ideally, run off a few more wins and maybe drop one late in the year and refocus for what matters...

11-09-2012, 09:09 AM	#11
Rother8 Seasoned Veteran Mhmugggggeeeee Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 273 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Texans remaining schedule: 5 of the last 8 are on the road. The Colts are getting hot and the Patriots and Bears are on there too so we'll see. They'd need to lose 3 of the 8 and Denver would need to win out to get the higher seed. AT BEARS JAGUARS AT LIONS AT TITANS AT PATRIOTS COLTS VIKINGS AT COLTS Patriots (5-3) last 8 games: Bills Colts @Jets @Dolphins Texans 49ers @Jags Dolphins Basically Denver could maybe afford to lose one game and go 12-4, but it would probably take the Pats losing twice from here on out. If we could run the table, it looks good to me but AFCW is way more realistic.

11-09-2012, 09:50 AM	#13
NFLBRONCO Ring of Famer Go Nuggets Go Lakers Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lafayette Colorado Posts: 7,391	I see these as our toughest games Car Balt SD. To get a bye we'd need to only lose 1 game or win out would be better. We don't have head to head with either NE or Hou so that could drop us to third seed. I think its too early to talk about bye. Oak might be a challenge short week road game.

11-09-2012, 09:55 AM	#14
SonOfLe-loLang Young Buck Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 13,228 Adopt-a-Bronco: Thunder (RIP)	lets just worry about getting in? Lets just play great football at the end of the season and the rest will play itself out. Ask the Giants how much byes and home field matter

11-09-2012, 10:03 AM	#15
Al Wilson Perennial Pro-bowler Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 942	We have to win out. I think the Broncos and Patriots will be 1 - 2 in the AFC

11-09-2012, 11:51 AM	#18
razorwire77 Tapenade Swagga Splotchy Headed Assassin Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 3,266 Adopt-a-Bronco: Flash Thomas	It would be really tough. Right now New England and Houston both hold tiebreaker advantages. Both the Pats and Texans have a couple of tough games each, but overall fairly weak schedules (like the Broncos). To get a bye Denver absolutely has to beat Baltimore and go 12-4.

11-09-2012, 12:45 PM	#23
Heyneck Ring of Famer None is a family member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Cali, Colombia Posts: 2,191 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I don't know about a bye... but if we win out we should have a great chance at that. For me, our biggest test will be the ravens. It's about time we beat them again! What was our last win against them? 2006? The game were Tatum Bell carried Ray Lewis on his back? Hate the Rat Birds!!!

11-09-2012, 01:19 PM	#25
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,907 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Memo; The Broncos are 5 and 3 Before we get a bye let's get into the playoffs.