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Old 11-08-2012, 07:41 PM   #801
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I wonder if crash has woken up from his drunken stupor yet.
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:47 PM   #802
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I wonder how many times you've mentioned the fact that it's almost doubled since he took office? But this drop you're all over.
8k to 12.8k is "almost doubleď

Must be the New Math.
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:57 PM   #803
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The DOW was still in free fall when Obama first took office. It bottomed out in the 6000s.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:23 PM   #804
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I agree that they'll try, but I think a potential exploding cigar for the Republicans. For example, if the Republicans think that Mexican-American voters in the Southwest and California will vote en mass for a Cuban-American Conservative like Rubio, based on the fact that he speaks Spanish and has brown skin, they are sadly mistaken. Puerto-Ricans , Mexicans, Cubans, Chicanos represent vastly different demographics.

I think Blacks broke for the Democrats because over the past several generations Blacks almost always break for the Dems in national elections. Of course, Obama helped with the enthusiasm factor among Black voters, but the same was true with JFK among Catholics and I'm sure for many Mormons with Mitty.
Go on to a message board below one of these news articles on Yahoo, CNN anywhere and read all the horribly racist comments. Why would any black person want to be associated with those republicans? One of the words Republicans love to use to get around the filter is ni66ers.

Yahoo message boards are Tea party Central. If I was black I would be horribly offended and pi66ed off. As long as the Republicans remain the way they are blacks will go 80% and above for the Democrats.

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So a white guy that normally votes for a Democrat actually didn't vote for Obama because of his skin? Sure! Someone here (that would be you!) said it was a negative of 3 to 5% against Obama. The 11 to 13% increase of voting just for blacks would say you are full of it. I bet more % of Democrat Hispanics didn't vote for Obama then white democrats.
only a 2% increase from 2004.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:03 PM   #806
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:56 PM   #807
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Wow. Yeah, he seems so disingenuous.

And he did it all without a teleprompter. ASTONISHING. A politician speaking from the heart.
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Old 11-08-2012, 11:19 PM   #808
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Wrong. I have no pre-existing bias. You do. You're extremely vocal about your values in the WRP forum that have a tendency to follow liberal party lines pretty closely.

I do not. I'm NOT conservative nor liberal. I'm conservative in economic and foreign policy while being extremely liberal in social issues. I supported Romney because I don't feel Barack came through on the social reform he promised 4 years ago.

I think my liberalism in social issues is precisely WHY I'm so stunned and disgusted right now.
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I do (believe the judicial system has the right to take life). There are evil people in this world that deserve far worse than prison, and frankly, far worse than death.
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Respect for women?

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Soooooooooooooooooo...

Am I really the only one that gets the irony in getting offended over the term equating feminine with weak?
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Gay rights?

I'm admittedly homo-phobic to an extent, but people have the right to live their own lives...I wrote one of the guys I was in the Marines with a year back and found out he's gay. Turns out the entire time he was in, he was in denial, a raging alcoholic and almost committed suicide on a daily basis because that's just who he was, and his learned social experiences with it, and I'm probably largely to blame for this, was that it's wrong and unacceptable.
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Yep...a pro-death penalty, demeaning to women, self-admitted homophobe, but who thinks people have the right to live their own lives. You're the very definition of an "extreme social liberal."

And don't worry, I won't return all that neg rep you're giving me. I may even send you some positive rep again, because you're such a bleeding heart and a nice guy, championing the cause of social liberalism with every post.

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Old 11-09-2012, 01:00 AM   #809
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I voted for that guy because he's black.
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Old 11-09-2012, 05:22 AM   #810
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Didn't a death penalty ban referendum just crash and burn in California? Yeah, must only be Hard Core Right Wing social cons that support the death penalty
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Old 11-09-2012, 06:29 AM   #811
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I voted for that guy because he's black.
I voted for him because he's cute.
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I wonder if crash has woken up from his drunken stupor yet.
He's prolly not drunk anymore.

"Stupor" is going to take more time.
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I voted for that guy because he's black.
Isn't he the Messiah? That's why I voted for him.
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Go on to a message board below one of these news articles on Yahoo, CNN anywhere and read all the horribly racist comments. Why would any black person want to be associated with those republicans? One of the words Republicans love to use to get around the filter is ni66ers.

Yahoo message boards are Tea party Central. If I was black I would be horribly offended and pi66ed off. As long as the Republicans remain the way they are blacks will go 80% and above for the Democrats.
I always find the best way to form an impression of a group of tens of millions of people is to look at anonymous comments at the bottom of some random article on the web. Then I find the most offensive comments and project that across every person I like to think might've voted for the same guy for President.
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Old 11-09-2012, 08:29 AM   #815
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I voted for him because he's a gay socialist muslim born in kenya that is going to sell us to China for a bag of weed & a signed copy of “Innocence of Muslims,”.
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I am hearing a great deal of talk about "appealing to Hispanics" and "appealing to women." But I am not hearing much about endorsing actual policies. What happened [Tuesday] night is not a matter of cosmetics. This is not false consciousness. This a real response to real policies. Mitt Romney actually endorsed Arizona's immigration policies. You can't fix this by flashing more pictures of brown people.
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:06 AM   #818
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It's a "Catch 22," I tell ya - if the rethugs move toward policies that appeal to minorities, women, young people, et al, then they lose the Jim Crow vote (their bread and butter.)

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They are still counting votes in Florida. What is wrong with them down there.

Heads should roll.
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:12 AM   #820
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They're a special breed of crazy...

Florida Gov. refuses to enact 'Obamacare'
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:25 PM   #821
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Florida Gov. refuses to enact 'Obamacare'
I think 12 or so states have now either passed laws or Constitutional Amendments prohibiting their governments from working to enact the law. At least as far as the mandate goes. So it's not just Florida.

And the Supreme Court decision on the topic wasn't real friendly to the idea that the feds can force any States into doing their dirty work.
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