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Old 11-06-2012, 10:39 AM   #51
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This.

Go Romney! It's a pretty long shot, but I got hope!
It's not really a long shot. I predict that it will come down to the wire. We may not even be sure, tomorrow. I think there's a lot of people who will look at their job situation, and will want to make a 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue resident change...
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:43 AM   #52
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:44 AM   #53
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Except when he wasn't. Like 2010.
You know people can look this stuff up, right?

Nate Silver's 2010 track record:

He correctly predicted 34/36 Senate seats whose outcomes were resolved by November 4, 2010
He predicted a net gain of 54 seats in the House for Republicans (the House actually gained 63 Republicans)
Nate correctly predicted the outcome in 36 of 37 gubernatorial elections

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FiveThirtyEight
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:46 AM   #54
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You know people can look this stuff up, right?

Nate Silver's 2010 track record:

He correctly predicted 34/36 Senate seats whose outcomes were resolved by November 4, 2010
He predicted a net gain of 54 seats in the House for Republicans (the House actually gained 63 Republicans)
Nate correctly predicted the outcome in 36 of 37 gubernatorial elections

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FiveThirtyEight
You missed my answer to that?

scroll up, you'll get there....
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:49 AM   #55
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A monkey could have predicted Obama beating McCain, in 2008. The sample size for Nate Silver's blog isn't big enough to be credible, yet...
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:03 AM   #56
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I predict high highs and low lows. Maybe some middles. Those tricksy middles.


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Old 11-06-2012, 11:06 AM   #57
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:08 AM   #58
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:13 AM   #59
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I heard that Obama was showing an early lead. That is, until all the Republicans get off work and vote. Saw that on FB last night. Thought it was funny.
Be careful with that joke... it's an antique.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:13 AM   #60
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I voted just so I could wear the cool sticker.

Is it true than a Elector in the Electoral College doesn't have to pledge his vote for the candidate that wins the popular vote in my state? That seems pretty f'ed up.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:14 AM   #61
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I voted just so I could wear the cool sticker.

Is it true than a Elector in the Electoral College doesn't have to pledge his vote for the candidate that wins the popular vote in my state? That seems pretty f'ed up.

They dont have to. Traditionally they go with the wishes of the electorate in the state.

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Old 11-06-2012, 11:15 AM   #62
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:16 AM   #63
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Voted last Friday. Glad to see so many getting out and voting. Just one stump for those of us here in Utah. Vote for the 2 amendment addendum, to waive property taxes for active military.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:22 AM   #64
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:23 AM   #65
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"This campaign will not be dictated to by fact-checkers." -Romney campaign spokesman
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:24 AM   #66
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:24 AM   #67
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They dont have to. Traditionally they go with the wishes of the electorate in the state.

Didn't someone abstain recently?

Seems like if we are going to stick to a states rights based system where the president wins based on states he carries the electors should be bound to vote based on the popular vote of their state.

Oh well, we are human, nothing is perfect...
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Presidential vote will of course be meaningless here in Mass, but we've got a good senate race and our ballot questions are pretty good this time around:


1. Availability of motor vehicle repair data

A yes vote would require auto manufacturers to make available diagnostic and repair information through a universal software system that could be used by dealers and independent shops.

2. Prescribing medication to end life

A yes vote would make Massachusetts the third state to allow terminally ill patients to end their life with a lethal dose of a drug provided by a physician. Supporters say this law would give patients with less than six months to live more control over their destiny and allow them to die with dignity. Some opponents argue that physicians should not be involved in such an act, while others argue that the law does not include enough safeguards regarding family notification and psychiatric evaluation.

3. Medical use of marijuana

A yes vote would make Massachusetts the 18th state to legalize the use of marijuana for medical purposes. It would create treatment centers that must register with the state. To obtain marijuana, patients would need written certification from a physician that they have a “specific debilitating medical condition.” Supporters say this would bring relief to thousands of patients in chronic pain. Opponents say that medical practice should not be determined by popular opinion, that there has not been rigorous research on the benefits, and that legalization of medical marijuana could lead to more drug abuse and crime.
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Didn't someone abstain recently?

Seems like if we are going to stick to a states rights based system where the president wins based on states he carries the electors should be bound to vote based on the popular vote of their state.

Oh well, we are human, nothing is perfect...

I like the electoral college. Otherwise you have the coasts deciding who is president.

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Vote for 64, dude!
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:29 AM   #71
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Vote for 64, dude!

I voted no on the colorado amendment. It is not written well...plus, you know the federal law trumping state law.


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Old 11-06-2012, 11:31 AM   #72
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I voted no on the colorado amendment. It is not written well...plus, you know the federal law trumping state law.


The states are the laboratory of freedom, man! Let there be smoke!

Besides, the federal law is idiotic and we have 80 years to prove it is completely unenforceable.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:32 AM   #73
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I voted no on the colorado amendment. It is not written well...plus, you know the federal law trumping state law.


It's also an absolute nightmare to enforce because the legislation to support it in Colorado is simply not there yet. 4-6 years away from getting there.

But the "Yes on 64" folks would not listen to reason. They were probably stoned.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:32 AM   #74
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I wish someone in Washington had a pair of balls to really propose legalizing pot.
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Old 11-06-2012, 11:33 AM   #75
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The states are the laboratory of freedom, man! Let there be smoke!

Besides, the federal law is idiotic and we have 80 years to prove it is completely unenforceable.

I agree its idiotic. I dont care if someone wants to smoke weed. But at the moment, even if this law passes people will still be arrested and imprisoned for having it. People who open up "weed stores" could have their property seized and their assets frozen. The proposed amendment provides no protections and it cannot possibly overrule the federal government.


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