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Old 11-04-2012, 07:30 PM   #101
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Man that would have been sweet!
Yeah, "If if's were fifth's we'd all be drunk" but, I think it could have happened that way. Only if we weren't in love with Osweiler. I do think Wolfe would have been there later in the 2nd.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:02 PM   #102
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Dude the ravens said they were going to draft Wolfe if we didn't with their second round pick.
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Old 11-04-2012, 08:08 PM   #103
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I'd like to add that, when we get a good MLB, we can add the Tampa Cover 2 coverage to our scheme, which I think would be very beneficial against hurry up offenses/situations.
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Yeah, "If if's were fifth's we'd all be drunk" but, I think it could have happened that way. Only if we weren't in love with Osweiler. I do think Wolfe would have been there later in the 2nd.
In a couple of years after learning from the master I suspect you also will be in love with Brock.
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Old 11-04-2012, 10:35 PM   #105
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In a couple of years after learning from the master I suspect you also will be in love with Brock.
Based on what exactly?
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:25 AM   #106
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Based on what exactly?
Him being our FQB.

Did not think you were that dense.
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:38 AM   #107
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McGahee and Hilman are not sub par. I watched the seahawks/vikings game today.. Lynch is incredible and Peterson is on a level of his own, but you can't compare our backs to guys like that.. Lynch and Peterson are not the par they are the exception. Our guys may not be too far about average but they are at least average.
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:56 AM   #108
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McGahee and Hilman are not sub par. I watched the seahawks/vikings game today.. Lynch is incredible and Peterson is on a level of his own, but you can't compare our backs to guys like that.. Lynch and Peterson are not the par they are the exception. Our guys may not be too far about average but they are at least average.
McGahee is above average and Hillman is below average. thus they are average I guess. I would love to see Jerimiah Johnson in this offense. To me he seems much fast than Hillman.
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Him being our FQB.

Did not think you were that dense.
Because this franchise has such a great history with those...
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McGahee is above average and Hillman is below average. thus they are average I guess. I would love to see Jerimiah Johnson in this offense. To me he seems much fast than Hillman.
32 carries for 140 yards in his career so far and you already have him pegged as below average eh? You're kind of special...
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Dude the ravens said they were going to draft Wolfe if we didn't with their second round pick.
Yeah...that's what was leaked by the Broncos.
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:01 PM   #112
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McGahee is above average and Hillman is below average. thus they are average I guess. I would love to see Jerimiah Johnson in this offense. To me he seems much fast than Hillman.
No way is JJ faster than Hillman. And it is way to early to say he is below average.
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I'm surprised at the Hillman hate. Is he the next Eric Dickerson? No. But, the sample size with the kid is small and yet he's been able to make some plays and flash some potential when given an opportunity. He looks pretty damn fast in space to me. He's been able to catch an edge and break a couple of long runs, he's a pretty willing blocker for being a small back. Yesterday, he had a nice short grab from Manning for a 3rd down conversion and one carry for 4 yards. 32 carries for 140 yards, 4.4 avg, I mean he the youngest player in the league. Maybe give him a full year, before we give him the below average label.

Although next year it would be nice to get a young feature back to replace Willis.
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I'm surprised at the Hillman hate. Is he the next Eric Dickerson? No. But, the sample size with the kid is small and yet he's been able to make some plays and flash some potential when given an opportunity. He looks pretty damn fast in space to me. He's been able to catch an edge and break a couple of long runs, he's a pretty willing blocker for being a small back. Yesterday, he had a nice short grab from Manning for a 3rd down conversion and one carry for 4 yards. 32 carries for 140 yards, 4.4 avg, I mean he the youngest player in the league. Maybe give him a full year, before we give him the below average label.

Although next year it would be nice to get a young feature back to replace Willis.
considering all the tater love here in the past it sounds silly to me..he is only shorter than tater was..

I suspect he is faster also.. anyone expecting either to be feature backs is not the brightest blub in the room..

you are correct they need another Biggie 235+ back to tote the rock 20+ times a game down the road when Mc Gahee retires or to spell him the next few years....

If you saw teh game tonight having a bunch of guys to carry the ball is a HUGE plus..

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considering all the tater love here in the past it sounds silly to me..he is only shorter than tater was..

I suspect he is faster also.. anyone expecting either to be feature backs is not the brightest blub in the room..

you are correct they need another Biggie 235+ back to tote the rock 20+ times a game down the road when Mc Gahee retires or to spell him the next few years....

If you saw teh game tonight having a bunch of guys to carry the ball is a HUGE plus..
I'd take Tatum Bell on this team right now over Ball and Moreno.
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I'm surprised at the Hillman hate. Is he the next Eric Dickerson? No. But, the sample size with the kid is small and yet he's been able to make some plays and flash some potential when given an opportunity. He looks pretty damn fast in space to me. He's been able to catch an edge and break a couple of long runs, he's a pretty willing blocker for being a small back. Yesterday, he had a nice short grab from Manning for a 3rd down conversion and one carry for 4 yards. 32 carries for 140 yards, 4.4 avg, I mean he the youngest player in the league. Maybe give him a full year, before we give him the below average label.

Although next year it would be nice to get a young feature back to replace Willis.
I don't usually advocate using a first round pick on a RB but boy I wish we had stayed where we were and taken Martin. That kid is going to be unstoppable.
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I'd take Tatum Bell on this team right now over Ball and Moreno.
Then your LOVING in the past. Tater was a loser.
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Then your LOVING in the past. Tater was a loser.
Maybe he's angling for a deal on a new cell phone
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Or a set of luggage.
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I don't usually advocate using a first round pick on a RB but boy I wish we had stayed where we were and taken Martin. That kid is going to be unstoppable.
Hindsight is 20/20. He could have easily been Moreno 2.0
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I'd take Tatum Bell on this team right now over Ball and Moreno.
They should give Jeremiah Johnson a chance. I think he is more explosive than Hillman.
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I don't get the hate on Hillman. Not even 40 carries and people call him below average wtf.....

Hes the youngest player in the NFL, hes going to get better each game. He broke Marshall Faulk's college record and John Fox & even Faulk himself compared him to Faulk. So they obviously see some real all star potential in him.

You can already start to see flashes of his potential. Hes not slow, you can't reverse the field (like you seen him do on that run) unless you have speed and explosion he has both you will see this shine more when he gets more carries.

The kid is going shut people up before the end of the year though I am pretty confidant in that.

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I don't get the hate on Hillman. Not even 40 carries and people call him below average wtf.....

Hes the youngest player in the NFL, hes going to get better each game. He broke Marshall Faulk's college record and John Fox & even Faulk himself compared him to Faulk. So they obviously see some real all star potential in him.

You can already start to see flashes of his potential. Hes not slow, you can't reverse the field (like you seen him do on that run) unless you have speed and explosion he has both you will see this shine more when he gets more carries.

The kid is going shut people up before the end of the year though I am pretty confidant in that.
At this point in his career Hillman is below average, no hate.
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No way is JJ faster than Hillman. And it is way to early to say he is below average.
I think it's fair to say that today, at this stage, just going off the tape Hillman is below avg. Not that he won't get better, he will, but right now our options, inccluding Willis are below avg
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