Romney would increase the Pentagon budget

[mhgaffney]

Romney wants to increase military spending --

The Pentagon budget is already more than a $ trillion a year. Are we safer? No.

In fact, US military spending is at historically obscene levels. As that radical lefty Ike pointed out, our out-of-control military industrial complex is stealing from the mouths of unborn babies.

http://live.wsj.com/video/mitt-romne...4-A994576110FE

[mhgaffney]

Unfortunately, Obama might also do the same.

Military spending is not a substitute for a vacuum of leadership -- which is our real problem.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2006266.html

[orinjkrush]

well, it really is the only industry we have. everything else is gone.

[cutthemdown]

The number one job of the federal govt is to maintain a national defense strong enough to withstand an attack from the whole world if need be. I know the liberals would rather have them saving the spotted tree frog, handing out welfare checks, food stamps, and destorying private enterprise but i digress.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

The number one job of the federal govt is to maintain a national defense strong enough to withstand an attack from the whole world if need be.

Oh brother. That won't happen, and even if it did, we wouldn't stand a chance.

What a ridiculous comment.

[houghtam]

A completely ridiculous argument, indeed. Where do people get this ****?

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by houghtam

A completely ridiculous argument, indeed. Where do people get this ****?

Who the **** knows? Most of the stuff that comes from cutthemdown is just plain insane.

[houghtam]

Originally Posted by W*GS

Who the **** knows? Most of the stuff that comes from cutthemdown is just plain insane.

Seems like someone needs to read Article 1 Section 8...

Let's take a look at the enumerated powers of Congress, in order, once again...

1 - Collect taxes
2 - Borrow money
3 - Regulate commerce
4 - Establish naturalization and bankruptcy laws
5 - Coin money
6 - Provide punishment for counterfeiting currency
7 - Establish Post Offices and transportation routes necessary for postal delivery
8 - Establish copyright laws (to promote the progress of science... where are the constitutional conservatives on this one?)
9 - Establish a court system under the rule of the Supreme Court
10 - Define and punish piracy and violation of international law
11 - Declare war
12 - Raise and support armies
13 - Provide and maintain a Navy
14 - Establish laws to be followed by the military
15 - Provide a discipline by which to train state militias
16 - Exercise legislation over the District of Columbia
17 - Make other laws deemed necessary and proper

Raising and supporting a military fell to items 12 and 13 on a list of 17. Methinks the framers of the Constitution didn't just forget until they were halfway done, and then go, "OMG TOTALLY 4GOT THE ARMY WTF Z"

[mhgaffney]

Originally Posted by houghtam

Seems like someone needs to read Article 1 Section 8...

Let's take a look at the enumerated powers of Congress, in order, once again...

1 - Collect taxes
2 - Borrow money
3 - Regulate commerce
4 - Establish naturalization and bankruptcy laws
5 - Coin money
6 - Provide punishment for counterfeiting currency
7 - Establish Post Offices and transportation routes necessary for postal delivery
8 - Establish copyright laws (to promote the progress of science... where are the constitutional conservatives on this one?)
9 - Establish a court system under the rule of the Supreme Court
10 - Define and punish piracy and violation of international law
11 - Declare war
12 - Raise and support armies
13 - Provide and maintain a Navy
14 - Establish laws to be followed by the military
15 - Provide a discipline by which to train state militias
16 - Exercise legislation over the District of Columbia
17 - Make other laws deemed necessary and proper

Raising and supporting a military fell to items 12 and 13 on a list of 17. Methinks the framers of the Constitution didn't just forget until they were halfway done, and then go, "OMG TOTALLY 4GOT THE ARMY WTF Z"

The power of Congress has diminished -- as the power of the executive branch has grown.

But the steadily growing power of the financial elite has eclipsed both. Today the federal government is but an extension of the federal reserve.

Congress is an afterthought.

Those who control the creation of money have the nation by the throat.

MHG

[orinjkrush]

Originally Posted by houghtam

Seems like someone needs to read Article 1 Section 8...

Let's take a look at the enumerated powers of Congress, in order, once again...

1 - Collect taxes: and taxes and taxes and taxes and taxes
2 - Borrow money: EXCEPTIONALLY WELL PERFORMED
3 - Regulate commerce: BATF
4 - Establish naturalization and bankruptcy laws: NOT ENFORCING NATURALIZATION
5 - Coin money: GAVE THAT ONE AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
6 - Provide punishment for counterfeiting currency: all Fiat money is counterfeit
7 - Establish Post Offices and transportation routes necessary for postal delivery: SHRINKING THAT DOWN
8 - Establish copyright laws (to promote the progress of science... where are the constitutional conservatives on this one?)
9 - Establish a court system under the rule of the Supreme Court: circular do-loops up and down
10 - Define and punish piracy and violation of international law
11 - Declare war: NOT APPLICABLE ANYMORE
12 - Raise and support armies: Plural?
13 - Provide and maintain a Navy
14 - Establish laws to be followed by the military: UCMJ in contradiction to BILL OF RIGHTS
15 - Provide a discipline by which to train state militias: SEE ITEM 12
16 - Exercise legislation over the District of Columbia: FAIL
17 - Make other laws deemed necessary and proper: NDAA?

Raising and supporting a military fell to items 12 and 13 on a list of 17. Methinks the framers of the Constitution didn't just forget until they were halfway done, and then go, "OMG TOTALLY 4GOT THE ARMY WTF Z"

lmao. good post. edited with comments. I'd give Congress a C-.