This is personal.............GOP has to go ! - The Orange Mane

Jetmeck · 11-02-2012, 10:47 AM

Sting the (Bleep) Out of Them

Dear UCubed Leader:

Excuse my French, but it is time to sting the merde out of THE GOP.

For the last four years, they have voted against you. By my count, they voted against you 8,000 times. So this is personal.

They emptied your wallets by blocking job programs... drained your savings by prolonging this jobless recovery... wiped out your net worth with their shenanigans... endangered your health by cutting back on Medicaid... took food off your table by curtailing food stamps... and used your unemployment benefits as a hostage so they could deliver tax breaks to their wealthy contributors.

All I ask is this: Make a plan to go vote on November 6th. Call up a friend or family member and ask them to go with you to the polls.

And when you get into the voting booth, inflict as much pain on THE GOP as you possibly can. BEE MAD @ THE GOP! Hand them a stinging defeat.

In Unity -- Strength,

Rick Sloan
Executive Director

Pony Boy · 11-02-2012, 11:39 AM

Who to F is Rick Sloan and what's he the Executive Director of?

And it will get personal if Obama gets re-elected because I'm going to ride you like a rented mule on Obama's performance numbers as he continues to go into the tank for another 4 years. I also don't see much change in the congressional numbers so the grid lock in congress will make the traffic jams in NYC look like easy street.

Smiling Assassin27 · 11-02-2012, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetmeck

Sting the (Bleep) Out of Them

Dear UCubed Leader:

Excuse my French, but it is time to sting the merde out of THE GOP.

For the last four years, they have voted against you. By my count, they voted against you 8,000 times. So this is personal.

They emptied your wallets by blocking job programs... drained your savings by prolonging this jobless recovery... wiped out your net worth with their shenanigans... endangered your health by cutting back on Medicaid... took food off your table by curtailing food stamps... and used your unemployment benefits as a hostage so they could deliver tax breaks to their wealthy contributors.

All I ask is this: Make a plan to go vote on November 6th. Call up a friend or family member and ask them to go with you to the polls.

And when you get into the voting booth, inflict as much pain on THE GOP as you possibly can. BEE MAD @ THE GOP! Hand them a stinging defeat.

In Unity -- Strength,

Rick Sloan
Executive Director

Go have a good cry, Rick. And the tampon dispenser's over there, Judy.

broncocalijohn · 11-02-2012, 11:54 AM

Rick SLoan must be one of Jetmeck's union thugs that he loves so much. I just wonder if Jetmeck lived out in California and witnessed the police officers and firefighters taking advantage of their union leaning laws allowing salaries to be upward of $150k plus would he back the unions here. Add the teachers and public union pensions going to be bankrupting California because of the promise that Calpers and Calsters would have a guaranteed increase every year regardless of the investments. My wife gets 8% automatically regardless of the investments! I am married to a teacher but I can still see the absolute joke of a deal that screwed the citizens of California.

orinjkrush · 11-02-2012, 12:12 PM

yeah, teachers and police and firefighters don't contribute much to the common weal as much as, say, CEOs.

George Paz, CEO Express Scripts (med insurance)....2012 only.....$51,520,000.00
Stephen Hemsley..United Health Group...................2012 only.....$48,830,000.00
Clarance Cazalot...Marathon Oil............................2012 only.....$43,710,000.00
Jamie Dimon..JP Morgan.......................................2012 only....$41,990,000.00
Stephan Chazen...Occidental Petroleum.................2012 only.....$34,300,000.00

and on and on and on.

why do they make so much? there is no empirical proof that any CEO contributes to any company performance metric EVER. its all mythological...they're all riding on Chuck Norris's coattails. the real reason is that each and every one of them sit on the boards of each and every one of their colleagues corporate boards and they vote themselves the earnings of these corporations. as opposed to investing in the companies futures.

ant1999e · 11-02-2012, 12:26 PM

Taxpayers are on the hook for public workers salaries and increases. Why people attempt to compare public and private workers/unions is beyond me.

Jetmeck · 11-02-2012, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

Rick SLoan must be one of Jetmeck's union thugs that he loves so much. I just wonder if Jetmeck lived out in California and witnessed the police officers and firefighters taking advantage of their union leaning laws allowing salaries to be upward of $150k plus would he back the unions here. Add the teachers and public union pensions going to be bankrupting California because of the promise that Calpers and Calsters would have a guaranteed increase every year regardless of the investments. My wife gets 8% automatically regardless of the investments! I am married to a teacher but I can still see the absolute joke of a deal that screwed the citizens of California.

Union members are thugs...**** you. Say that in person clown.

Union members have gotten union and non union workers pay increases and benefits and work rules increases and safety rules and etc.

Your an absolute stupid **** to bag on the good guys.

This letter is perfect example of you dumbass repubs not understanding the basic feeling in this country. People are not as dumb as you guys think.........................

They understand who ****ed things up and who has been riding the brakes for four years just to get back into power.

Obama has already won.....................

I lived with a teacher for 20 years and her mom was a lifer as a teacher............your so full of **** with 150k BS. Maybe in Caliornia principles and up get paid that but even superintendents in Missouri only make 75k.

Quit your lying , just Romney's lying and flip flopping.

Jetmeck · 11-02-2012, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pony Boy

Who to F is Rick Sloan and what's he the Executive Director of?

And it will get personal if Obama gets re-elected because I'm going to ride you like a rented mule on Obama's performance numbers as he continues to go into the tank for another 4 years. I also don't see much change in the congressional numbers so the grid lock in congress will make the traffic jams in NYC look like easy street.

Try riding me fool.

All your stupid **** is gonna come home to roost.

Your party is to blame for the mess and your party has been blocking it all.

2010 was a mistake and it will be corrected Tuesday.

People will be calling these a-hole repubs in the house to cooperate.

Mecklomaniac · 11-02-2012, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetmeck

Sting the (Bleep) Out of Them

Dear UCubed Leader:

Excuse my French, but it is time to sting the merde out of THE GOP.

For the last four years, they have voted against you. By my count, they voted against you 8,000 times. So this is personal.

They emptied your wallets by blocking job programs... drained your savings by prolonging this jobless recovery... wiped out your net worth with their shenanigans... endangered your health by cutting back on Medicaid... took food off your table by curtailing food stamps... and used your unemployment benefits as a hostage so they could deliver tax breaks to their wealthy contributors.

All I ask is this: Make a plan to go vote on November 6th. Call up a friend or family member and ask them to go with you to the polls.

And when you get into the voting booth, inflict as much pain on THE GOP as you possibly can. BEE MAD @ THE GOP! Hand them a stinging defeat.

In Unity -- Strength,

Rick Sloan
Executive Director

OMG.... Rick Sloan is the Executive Director of Ucubed and Communications Director for the International Aerospace Machinists Union (IAM).

This is the kind of crap you get as a message from the professional communicators of the union?

Mecklomaniac · 11-02-2012, 01:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetmeck

~~Try riding me fool.~~ (no need to be an internet tough guy)

All your stupid **** is gonna come home to roost.

~~Your~~ Both parties are to blame for the mess. Harry Reid and the do nothing Senate have blocked everything the house does, and doesn't have much to offer in return. The president offers unrealistic budgets that can't even get a single member of his own party to vote for them. Obama and Reid have shown no leadership and are relying on Boehner. Boehner has done little to try and work with Reid.

201008 was a terriblemistake and it will be corrected Tuesday.

People will be calling ~~these a-hole repubs in the house to~~ for both parties to act like adults and learn cooperate.

Fixed it for you

broncocalijohn · 11-02-2012, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetmeck

Union members are thugs...**** you. Say that in person clown.

Union members have gotten union and non union workers pay increases and benefits and work rules increases and safety rules and etc.

Your an absolute stupid **** to bag on the good guys.

This letter is perfect example of you dumbass repubs not understanding the basic feeling in this country. People are not as dumb as you guys think.........................

They understand who ****ed things up and who has been riding the brakes for four years just to get back into power.

Obama has already won.....................

I lived with a teacher for 20 years and her mom was a lifer as a teacher............your so full of **** with 150k BS. Maybe in Caliornia principles and up get paid that but even superintendents in Missouri only make 75k.

Quit your lying , just Romney's lying and flip flopping.

First, I said I don't know who he is and I guessed he is a Union Thug. Please follow along. 2nd, if you don't know what is going on in California, please do some research on your such loving public employee unions. I too have a wife that is a teacher and know that she works hard. I also know how the union protects the absolute **** of teachers and they move around instead of getting canned. Now sometimes they don't get their contract redone or they sit in a room at the district office and collect their salary while doing nothing. I guess that is better than firing the incompetent teacher over the young and vibrant Teacher of the Year because she doesn't have tenore. That **** wouldn't happen in a non union company. Best person keeps their job. I doubt none of have said all unions are bad or don't amount for anything. Most of this is on public employee unions where the politicians they have corrupted makes their wages. Yeah, seems totally fair!

Pony Boy · 11-02-2012, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetmeck

Union members are thugs...**** you. Say that in person clown.

So what does that mean are you some kind of a tough guy, if someone was to say that to you in person, what would you do?

So is Ucubed some kind of support group for the chronically unemployed more like an Alcoholics Anonymous for unemployed union workers? It looks like an online tailgate party for the unemployed, I see you even get to pick an avatar for the website

http://www.goiam.org/publications/pd...ing-UCubed.pdf

ant1999e · 11-02-2012, 02:17 PM

He's a real tough dude. Don't make him go all caps on your ass.

broncocalijohn · 11-02-2012, 02:19 PM

Here are some facts Jetmeck about California and their union loving ways. Why we are in massive trouble and not even close to fixing it.

http://www.forbes.com/2010/05/07/pub...tt-joshpe.html
While the Big Branch and Gulf Coast tragedies certainly warrant investigation, the real question is why a pension fund like CalPERS, whose payments are guaranteed by taxpayer dollars, is using public money to push its political agenda. This question should be especially pronounced in light of a recently released Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research study, which reveals that CalPERS, along with the CalSTRS and the University of California Retirement System (UCRS), lost a staggering $109.7 billion between June 2008 and June 2009.
As the Stanford study revealed, California's public pension funds are under-funded by a stated amount of $55.4 billion ($38.6 billion of which comes from CalPERS), but their actual shortfall is likely closer to $425 billion. The discrepancy is due to the fact that public pension funds discount future liabilities (what they will pay to retirees) at the rate that they expect to earn on investments, which is inherently uncertain. Under California law public pension benefits are guaranteed (i.e., risk free like Treasuries), meaning they should be discounted at a lesser risk free rate, rather than the current rate of 7.75%--an amount that is far from guaranteed, as the depletion of equity during the financial crisis demonstrated.

http://www.mybudget360.com/calpers-c...-debt-markets/
From the article on all 3 public employee retirement funds:
As mentioned earlier, the pressing nature of California pension shortfalls is due in part to the losses CalPERS, CalSTRS, and UCRS sustained in the markets over the past 18 months. CalPERS expects an average annual investment return of 7.75 percent, CalSTRS targets 8.00 percent, and UCRS expects 7.50 percent.”
Those expected rates of return are simply too optimistic. These funds are expecting 7.5 to 8 percent annual returns in a market that is giving 0 percent rates to savings accounts and 4 percent for 30 year fixed government debt. Instead of realigning to this low yield environment fund managers went all in to the market and gambled on Wall Street:
See the link for figure 6 of the great graph and remember, who cares that they lost 25% as they are guaranteed up to 7.50 to 8% in positive returns!

Here you go with Police officers, who are supposed to good citizens and look out for one another including the taxpayers. Seems they look out for themselves in a Top 10 safest city in America (Irvine) and read along and compare to Anaheim which is probably the 2nd unsafest city in OC:

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/d...etirement.html
The Irvine Police Department has the county's highest disability retirement rate for a large citysince the department was created in 1975. Sixty of 99 officers who have retired since the department was formed claimed to be injured or ill. Crime statistics show Irvine to be one of the safest cities in the nation. Compare Irvine to Anaheim, which has more violent crime but a disability retirement rate of only 15 percent since the department joined the PERS system in 1950.
Small police departments show a higher ratio of disability retirements, in large part because they have less room to provide light duty for injured or ill workers. Buena Park police, with 93 sworn officers, had a disability ratio of 62 percent over the last 5 ½ years – five of eight officers retiring took disability. The La Habra Police Department, with 63 sworn officers, was at 47 percent for the same period – nine of 19 sought disability.
Anaheim's police department – one of the largest in Orange County – had the lowest disability rate over the last 5 ½ years at 2 percent. Anaheim assigns injured or ill officers to permanent soft duty as a way to reduce medical retirements. Also ranking low for disability retirements was the O.C. Sheriffs Department, with 9 percent disability retirement over the last 5 ½ years. Officials said the sheriff's agency is large enough to temporarily reassign injured workers to limited duty, such as guarding the courthouse.

"Get your OVERTIME HEEERRE! Come on over for overtime!"
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/o...efighters.html

Database: 2009 O.C. firefighter pay averages $131,000

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Though firefighters with the OCFA earn an average base salary of $84,000, the average overall earnings for a firefighter in the agency is $131,522 in 2009, records show.

Add in the vacation pay they stack up and then get paid on the backend of it instead of when they earned their vacation pay. Big difference of not using 10 weeks of vacation pay when making $50k then to let them bank it and pay it out when they are making $89k near retirement (or more with all the free overtime they get).

broncocalijohn · 11-02-2012, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pony Boy

So what does that mean are you some kind of a tough guy, if someone was to say that to you in person, what would you do?

So is Ucubed some kind of support group for the chronically unemployed more like an Alcoholics Anonymous for unemployed union workers? It looks like an online tailgate party for the unemployed, I see you even get to pick an avatar for the website

http://www.goiam.org/publications/pd...ing-UCubed.pdf

Oh! I clicked on that. Are they unemployed looking for work? Nope, they are called activist and ready to be pissed off at a location near you. Pony Boy, you should join. Shhh, don't tell Jetmeck or he will warn them. Hopefully your real name isn't Pony Boy.

Pony Boy · 11-02-2012, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

Oh! I clicked on that. Are they unemployed looking for work? Nope, they are called activist and ready to be pissed off at a location near you. Pony Boy, you should join. Shhh, don't tell Jetmeck or he will warn them. Hopefully your real name isn't Pony Boy.

Yes' I think I will join and this will be my Avatar ...........

cutthemdown · 11-02-2012, 03:30 PM

People who think companies dont need great CEO's probably also think an NFL team could function without a good coach.

DomCasual · 11-02-2012, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetmeck

Union members are thugs...**** you. Say that in person clown.

"Say that in person clown."

Oh, my. Of all the Internet tough guys I've ever known, you're one of them, Mr. Jetmeck, sir!

Mecklomaniac · 11-02-2012, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

Oh! I clicked on that. Are they unemployed looking for work? Nope, they are called activist and ready to be pissed off at a location near you. Pony Boy, you should join. Shhh, don't tell Jetmeck or he will warn them. Hopefully your real name isn't Pony Boy.

I have always wondered where to get a rent-a-mob.

cutthemdown · 11-02-2012, 04:00 PM

im so friggin high right now. I hope they dont make it legal and then ruin it with regulations! Sorry by the time i got to the end I forgot what the thread was about.

DAN_BRONCO_FAN · 11-02-2012, 04:15 PM

i noticed something this jet fellow is and maybe i could be wrong always angry .
why is this jet person always angry ??
like he has sand in his vagina ?

DomCasual · 11-02-2012, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAN_BRONCO_FAN

i noticed something this jet fellow is and maybe i could be wrong always angry .
why is this jet person always angry ??
like he has sand in his vagina ?

This was Jetmeck, after BCJ said union workers were thugs.

The beginning of the video shows him hitting refresh for the This is personal (ellipses ellipses ellipses ellipses)GOP has to go! thread.

:07 is where he sees BCJ's comment.

The rest speaks for itself.

DAN_BRONCO_FAN · 11-02-2012, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomCasual

This was Jetmeck, after BCJ said union workers were thugs.

The beginning of the video shows him hitting refresh for the This is personal (ellipses ellipses ellipses ellipses)GOP has to go! thread.

:07 is where he sees BCJ's comment.

The rest speaks for itself.

Vegas_Bronco · 11-02-2012, 06:40 PM

Jetmeck is angry person...come on little engine, I believe in you.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 11-02-2012, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetmeck

This is personal.............GOP has to go !

Four more days 'til they crawl back under their rocks.

11-02-2012, 10:47 AM	#1
Jetmeck Not a Chief's board Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 5,427	This is personal.............GOP has to go ! Sting the (Bleep) Out of Them Dear UCubed Leader: Excuse my French, but it is time to sting the merde out of THE GOP. For the last four years, they have voted against you. By my count, they voted against you 8,000 times. So this is personal. They emptied your wallets by blocking job programs... drained your savings by prolonging this jobless recovery... wiped out your net worth with their shenanigans... endangered your health by cutting back on Medicaid... took food off your table by curtailing food stamps... and used your unemployment benefits as a hostage so they could deliver tax breaks to their wealthy contributors. All I ask is this: Make a plan to go vote on November 6th. Call up a friend or family member and ask them to go with you to the polls. And when you get into the voting booth, inflict as much pain on THE GOP as you possibly can. BEE MAD @ THE GOP! Hand them a stinging defeat. In Unity -- Strength, Rick Sloan Executive Director

11-02-2012, 02:19 PM	#14
broncocalijohn Famer of Rings My Dog Richard Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lake Forest, Orange County, Calif. Posts: 18,604 Adopt-a-Bronco: Simon Fletcher	Here are some facts Jetmeck about California and their union loving ways. Why we are in massive trouble and not even close to fixing it. http://www.forbes.com/2010/05/07/pub...tt-joshpe.html While the Big Branch and Gulf Coast tragedies certainly warrant investigation, the real question is why a pension fund like CalPERS, whose payments are guaranteed by taxpayer dollars, is using public money to push its political agenda. This question should be especially pronounced in light of a recently released Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research study, which reveals that CalPERS, along with the CalSTRS and the University of California Retirement System (UCRS), lost a staggering $109.7 billion between June 2008 and June 2009. As the Stanford study revealed, California's public pension funds are under-funded by a stated amount of $55.4 billion ($38.6 billion of which comes from CalPERS), but their actual shortfall is likely closer to $425 billion. The discrepancy is due to the fact that public pension funds discount future liabilities (what they will pay to retirees) at the rate that they expect to earn on investments, which is inherently uncertain. Under California law public pension benefits are guaranteed (i.e., risk free like Treasuries), meaning they should be discounted at a lesser risk free rate, rather than the current rate of 7.75%--an amount that is far from guaranteed, as the depletion of equity during the financial crisis demonstrated. http://www.mybudget360.com/calpers-c...-debt-markets/ From the article on all 3 public employee retirement funds: As mentioned earlier, the pressing nature of California pension shortfalls is due in part to the losses CalPERS, CalSTRS, and UCRS sustained in the markets over the past 18 months. CalPERS expects an average annual investment return of 7.75 percent, CalSTRS targets 8.00 percent, and UCRS expects 7.50 percent.” Those expected rates of return are simply too optimistic. These funds are expecting 7.5 to 8 percent annual returns in a market that is giving 0 percent rates to savings accounts and 4 percent for 30 year fixed government debt. Instead of realigning to this low yield environment fund managers went all in to the market and gambled on Wall Street: See the link for figure 6 of the great graph and remember, who cares that they lost 25% as they are guaranteed up to 7.50 to 8% in positive returns! Here you go with Police officers, who are supposed to good citizens and look out for one another including the taxpayers. Seems they look out for themselves in a Top 10 safest city in America (Irvine) and read along and compare to Anaheim which is probably the 2nd unsafest city in OC: http://www.ocregister.com/articles/d...etirement.html The Irvine Police Department has the county's highest disability retirement rate for a large citysince the department was created in 1975. Sixty of 99 officers who have retired since the department was formed claimed to be injured or ill. Crime statistics show Irvine to be one of the safest cities in the nation. Compare Irvine to Anaheim, which has more violent crime but a disability retirement rate of only 15 percent since the department joined the PERS system in 1950. Small police departments show a higher ratio of disability retirements, in large part because they have less room to provide light duty for injured or ill workers. Buena Park police, with 93 sworn officers, had a disability ratio of 62 percent over the last 5 ½ years – five of eight officers retiring took disability. The La Habra Police Department, with 63 sworn officers, was at 47 percent for the same period – nine of 19 sought disability. Anaheim's police department – one of the largest in Orange County – had the lowest disability rate over the last 5 ½ years at 2 percent. Anaheim assigns injured or ill officers to permanent soft duty as a way to reduce medical retirements. Also ranking low for disability retirements was the O.C. Sheriffs Department, with 9 percent disability retirement over the last 5 ½ years. Officials said the sheriff's agency is large enough to temporarily reassign injured workers to limited duty, such as guarding the courthouse. "Get your OVERTIME HEEERRE! Come on over for overtime!" http://www.ocregister.com/articles/o...efighters.html Database: 2009 O.C. firefighter pay averages $131,000 ADVERTISEMENT More from this story SLIDE SHOW: Database: 2009 O.C. firefighter pay averages $131,000 9 Photos » GRAPHIC: Database: 2009 O.C. firefighter pay averages $131,000 DATA: Database: 2009 O.C. firefighter pay averages $131,000 More from Crime Courts Safety Man gets 2 life terms for custody-dispute killings 30 minutes ago Kelly Thomas case: Hearing set for third officer 3 minutes ago Horse rescued from ravine in Carbon Canyon 4 minutes ago ADVERTISEMENT widget.html By SALVADOR HERNANDEZ / THE ORANGE COUNTY REGISTER Overtime in the county's largest firefighting agency decreased by more than $3 million last year, a savings Orange County Fire Authority officials attribute to the fact there were no major brushfires in 2009. But with a growing number of empty firefighting positions at the agency and the need to staff stations 24 hours a day, seven days a week, officials expect overtime costs to climb. Firefighters mop up a vegetation fire in Brea Canyon last month. BRUCE CHAMBERS, THE ORANGE COUNTY REGISTER MORE PHOTOS » ADVERTISEMENT Though firefighters with the OCFA earn an average base salary of $84,000, the average overall earnings for a firefighter in the agency is $131,522 in 2009, records show. Add in the vacation pay they stack up and then get paid on the backend of it instead of when they earned their vacation pay. Big difference of not using 10 weeks of vacation pay when making $50k then to let them bank it and pay it out when they are making $89k near retirement (or more with all the free overtime they get).

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11-02-2012, 11:39 AM	#2
Pony Boy "Whoa Nellie" Rub some dirt on it Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6,379 Adopt-a-Bronco: mellon head	Who to F is Rick Sloan and what's he the Executive Director of? And it will get personal if Obama gets re-elected because I'm going to ride you like a rented mule on Obama's performance numbers as he continues to go into the tank for another 4 years. I also don't see much change in the congressional numbers so the grid lock in congress will make the traffic jams in NYC look like easy street.

11-02-2012, 11:54 AM	#4
broncocalijohn Famer of Rings My Dog Richard Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lake Forest, Orange County, Calif. Posts: 18,604 Adopt-a-Bronco: Simon Fletcher	Rick SLoan must be one of Jetmeck's union thugs that he loves so much. I just wonder if Jetmeck lived out in California and witnessed the police officers and firefighters taking advantage of their union leaning laws allowing salaries to be upward of $150k plus would he back the unions here. Add the teachers and public union pensions going to be bankrupting California because of the promise that Calpers and Calsters would have a guaranteed increase every year regardless of the investments. My wife gets 8% automatically regardless of the investments! I am married to a teacher but I can still see the absolute joke of a deal that screwed the citizens of California.

11-02-2012, 12:12 PM	#5
orinjkrush ... Prospects for the future... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DistrictOfCorruption Posts: 4,918 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ben Garland	yeah, teachers and police and firefighters don't contribute much to the common weal as much as, say, CEOs. George Paz, CEO Express Scripts (med insurance)....2012 only.....$51,520,000.00 Stephen Hemsley..United Health Group...................2012 only.....$48,830,000.00 Clarance Cazalot...Marathon Oil............................2012 only.....$43,710,000.00 Jamie Dimon..JP Morgan.......................................2012 only....$41,990,000.00 Stephan Chazen...Occidental Petroleum.................2012 only.....$34,300,000.00 and on and on and on. why do they make so much? there is no empirical proof that any CEO contributes to any company performance metric EVER. its all mythological...they're all riding on Chuck Norris's coattails. the real reason is that each and every one of them sit on the boards of each and every one of their colleagues corporate boards and they vote themselves the earnings of these corporations. as opposed to investing in the companies futures.

11-02-2012, 12:26 PM	#6
ant1999e Ring of Famer WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE??? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: BFE Posts: 5,994 Adopt-a-Bronco: Money Ball	Taxpayers are on the hook for public workers salaries and increases. Why people attempt to compare public and private workers/unions is beyond me.

11-02-2012, 02:17 PM	#13
ant1999e Ring of Famer WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE??? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: BFE Posts: 5,994 Adopt-a-Bronco: Money Ball	He's a real tough dude. Don't make him go all caps on your ass.

11-02-2012, 03:30 PM	#17
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,875	People who think companies dont need great CEO's probably also think an NFL team could function without a good coach.

11-02-2012, 04:00 PM	#20
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,875	im so friggin high right now. I hope they dont make it legal and then ruin it with regulations! Sorry by the time i got to the end I forgot what the thread was about.

11-02-2012, 04:15 PM	#21
DAN_BRONCO_FAN golden knife winner winner of the golden knife award Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: colorado springs area Posts: 2,822 Adopt-a-Bronco: ray lewis knife	i noticed something this jet fellow is and maybe i could be wrong always angry . why is this jet person always angry ?? like he has sand in his vagina ?

11-02-2012, 06:40 PM	#24
Vegas_Bronco Ring of Famer Fear is a lack of preparation. Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: 63 Yards Out Posts: 4,051 Adopt-a-Bronco: 1 Elam 1	Jetmeck is angry person...come on little engine, I believe in you.