No Red Tape'? New Jersey Turns Away Non-union Relief Crews - The Orange Mane

DAN_BRONCO_FAN · 11-01-2012, 10:54 PM

How desperate is hurricane-ravaged New Jersey? Not desperate enough to suspend a union monopoly that keeps the state in the bottom ten states for economic competitiveness (and #48 for business friendliness). Relief crews from Alabama who were specifically called to New Jersey found themselves diverted to Long Island, NY after they arrived because they use non-union labor. Alabama is a right-to-work state.
WAFF-TV of Hunstville, AL reports:

Crews from Huntsville, as well as Decatur Utilities and Joe Wheeler out of Trinity headed up there this week, but Derrick Moore, one of the Decatur workers, said they were told by crews in New Jersey that they can't do any work there since they're not union employees....

Understandably, Moore said they're frustrated being told "thanks, but no thanks."

With so much at stake--and lives still in danger--it would seem logical to tell special interests to step aside.

On Wednesday, while visiting cleanup efforts in New Jersey in the company of Gov. Chris Christie, President Barack Obama vowed: "We are not going to tolerate red tape, we are not going to tolerate bureaucracy."

Unless, of course, that red tape is enforced by Obama's union cronies. Then stranded residents have to wait.

http://thewall.com/topics/51856-new-...n-relief-crews

DAN_BRONCO_FAN · 11-01-2012, 10:56 PM

why is there still red tape anyone anyone.
stupid unions gtfo of the way you idiots as for christie why the hell aint you doing something about this

DAN_BRONCO_FAN · 11-01-2012, 11:21 PM

also i like fox because of Gerardo Rivera, Greg Gutfeld ,Allen combs, Bob Beckel , Bill Schulz

DAN_BRONCO_FAN · 11-01-2012, 11:24 PM

yes i know its getting not geeting my key board is a walmart special

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 11-02-2012, 12:21 AM

The International Association of Fire Fighters' ads supporting President Barack Obama, like the one at the link, came out earlier in October.

But Hurricane Sandy is a strong reminder of the importance of their message, and IAFF General President Harold Schaitberger drives it home:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/31/1153138/-Shorter-fire-fighters-Please-remember-that-Romney-wants-to-cut-our-jobs

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 11-02-2012, 08:55 AM

Ooops!

Rumor About Non-Union Utility Workers from Alabama Being Denied Access to NY/NJ Work Areas DEBUNKED...by Alabama Utility Workers

houghtam · 11-02-2012, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Ooops!

Rumor About Non-Union Utility Workers from Alabama Being Denied Access to NY/NJ Work Areas DEBUNKED...by Alabama Utility Workers

nice find. I was going to debunk this just by pointing out how these things work (my brother works for the power company, and has served in several different states in situations like this). But the article sums it up a lot better:

Quote:

"We were not turned away," he said. "It's a lot more complicated than that. One of the problems is whenever this kind of thing happens people call and ask, 'Are you going to send crews out?' but it's not a situation where everybody jumps in truck and heads up there. You have to work through trade associations. You have mutual-aid agreements and you've got to find a system that needs you and is able to take you."

He said some systems don't use the same voltage and may have different configurations. "You don't just go up there and say, 'Hey, we're here. We're going to start putting up poles for you."

Has nothing to do with unions, it's just partisans (like you, Dan) trying to find problems with something Obama has done.

DAN_BRONCO_FAN · 11-02-2012, 01:23 PM

f me look at all the post by me its like im spamming i need to just type one piece of crap and be done with it not post 100 in one post in a minute my bad

ant1999e · 11-02-2012, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAN_BRONCO_FAN

f me look at all the post by me its like im spamming i need to just type one piece of crap and be done with it not post 100 in one post in a minute my bad

Punctuation would be nice.

DAN_BRONCO_FAN · 11-02-2012, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by houghtam

nice find. I was going to debunk this just by pointing out how these things work (my brother works for the power company, and has served in several different states in situations like this). But the article sums it up a lot better:

Has nothing to do with unions, it's just partisans (like you, Dan) trying to find problems with something Obama has done.

no not partisan got it from the web site why dont you tell the web site to knock it off not me i just post em and unions love to take in the money from its hard working members ie krogers taking money away from my brother david and using it for what i wonder to pay for some rich democrat to get elected why dont both candidates i dunno GET A JOB i dont donate to anyone except the salvation army and local food banks donated a bag full of clothes the other day to them found it on the side of the road
oh also who said i can see russia from my house ??
was it really sarah palin

DAN_BRONCO_FAN · 11-02-2012, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ant1999e

Punctuation would be nice.

only on select places and things blame public education why dont u

ant1999e · 11-02-2012, 01:51 PM

Gotta slow down Dan. Think before you post. Once you post it, you own it. If it's a bs story, either admit you were wrong or let the thread die.

ant1999e · 11-02-2012, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAN_BRONCO_FAN

only on select places and things blame public education why dont u

Prime example. I have no idea what you're trying to say.

Pony Boy · 11-02-2012, 02:04 PM

In Joplin MO where the whole town was wiped off the map by a tornado, people showed up by the thousands with pickup trucks and chain saws, some charge a modest fee but most helped for free.

The governor didn't ask if they were union members and didn't even require them to have a business permit to work in the devastated area.

DAN_BRONCO_FAN · 11-02-2012, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ant1999e

Prime example. I have no idea what you're trying to say.

oh nm i was making a stupid joke about the public education system i went thru it was stupid

DAN_BRONCO_FAN · 11-02-2012, 02:23 PM

ill just stick to posting links to stories and short replies

Smiling Assassin27 · 11-02-2012, 02:30 PM

A Georgia crew is claiming the same thing.

broncocalijohn · 11-02-2012, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAN_BRONCO_FAN

f me look at all the post by me its like im spamming i need to just type one piece of crap and be done with it not post 100 in one post in a minute my bad

Actually, if you just stop posting all together, it would make the board better for all. Phonics isn't your friend obviously and us reading Dan-ics is nearly impossible.

DAN_BRONCO_FAN · 11-02-2012, 02:34 PM

didnt know it was bs til LABF said it was

broncocalijohn · 11-02-2012, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAN_BRONCO_FAN

didnt know it was bs til LABF said it was

Then delete the thread. Don't make excuses about it. I saw it on Yahoo but didn't click. I am sure there are some truth to it but best to find it first but delete this thing.

cutthemdown · 11-02-2012, 02:48 PM

Its almost like with internet, we never will know what is true. You can't trust sources anymore. Even the big metworks been caught lying, doctoring pictures to fool us, etc etc.

Not pointing at anyone side i am saying neither liberals, or conservatives, have a media outlet that is non-partisan. Journalism and reporting is a quagmire of crappola nowdays. I believe this story is false. Why? because its too soon for people be organized enough to turn away non union workers. Just my opinion this is a union/non union propaganda BS story or maybe a small handfull were turned away and its been blown out of porportion.

Who cares anyways the fact is this hurricane sucks for the whol country. We just can't seem to catch a break. Here is to us having better luck regardless of who wins the election. Just 4 yrs with no big terrorist attacks and no big disasters would be a huge help to the economy.

Dexter · 11-02-2012, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ant1999e

Punctuation would be nice.

Something we can agree on! Sentences are good my friend.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAN_BRONCO_FAN

ill just stick to posting links to stories and short replies

Even though I don't agree with you very often, I don't think you should stop posting. Just try to make it a point to organize your thoughts. Capitalize the first letter of your sentence, put a period at the end of that sentence. Try to craft your sentences with one thought at a time. I know some people can't get the hang of it and it doesn't mean you're stupid.

But like ant1999e stated, just organize your thoughts. You don't have to be perfect either. But trying to do this will make you look more credible.

Just a friendly tip

cutthemdown · 11-02-2012, 04:03 PM

Message boards, twitter, etc etc.....doznt rqr same amt of grmr.

Jetland · 11-02-2012, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dexter

Something we can agree on! Sentences are good my friend.

Even though I don't agree with you very often, I don't think you should stop posting. Just try to make it a point to organize your thoughts. Capitalize the first letter of your sentence, put a period at the end of that sentence. Try to craft your sentences with one thought at a time. I know some people can't get the hang of it and it doesn't mean you're stupid.

But like ant1999e stated, just organize your thoughts. You don't have to be perfect either. But trying to do this will make you look more credible.

Just a friendly tip

yes please

DAN_BRONCO_FAN · 11-02-2012, 06:22 PM

why is nothing being done right now to help the people on the east coast i see people dumpster diving like they're in a 3rd world country.
people with no power people suffering.
Katrina 2.0 so wheres the outrage over this like there was when bush was the president.

11-01-2012, 10:54 PM	#1
DAN_BRONCO_FAN golden knife winner winner of the golden knife award Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: colorado springs area Posts: 2,822 Adopt-a-Bronco: ray lewis knife	No Red Tape'? New Jersey Turns Away Non-union Relief Crews How desperate is hurricane-ravaged New Jersey? Not desperate enough to suspend a union monopoly that keeps the state in the bottom ten states for economic competitiveness (and #48 for business friendliness). Relief crews from Alabama who were specifically called to New Jersey found themselves diverted to Long Island, NY after they arrived because they use non-union labor. Alabama is a right-to-work state. WAFF-TV of Hunstville, AL reports: Crews from Huntsville, as well as Decatur Utilities and Joe Wheeler out of Trinity headed up there this week, but Derrick Moore, one of the Decatur workers, said they were told by crews in New Jersey that they can't do any work there since they're not union employees.... Understandably, Moore said they're frustrated being told "thanks, but no thanks." With so much at stake--and lives still in danger--it would seem logical to tell special interests to step aside. On Wednesday, while visiting cleanup efforts in New Jersey in the company of Gov. Chris Christie, President Barack Obama vowed: "We are not going to tolerate red tape, we are not going to tolerate bureaucracy." Unless, of course, that red tape is enforced by Obama's union cronies. Then stranded residents have to wait. http://thewall.com/topics/51856-new-...n-relief-crews

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DAN_BRONCO_FAN golden knife winner winner of the golden knife award Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: colorado springs area Posts: 2,822 Adopt-a-Bronco: ray lewis knife	why is there still red tape anyone anyone. stupid unions gtfo of the way you idiots as for christie why the hell aint you doing something about this Last edited by DAN_BRONCO_FAN; 11-01-2012 at 11:07 PM..

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11-01-2012, 11:21 PM	#3
DAN_BRONCO_FAN golden knife winner winner of the golden knife award Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: colorado springs area Posts: 2,822 Adopt-a-Bronco: ray lewis knife	also i like fox because of Gerardo Rivera, Greg Gutfeld ,Allen combs, Bob Beckel , Bill Schulz

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DAN_BRONCO_FAN golden knife winner winner of the golden knife award Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: colorado springs area Posts: 2,822 Adopt-a-Bronco: ray lewis knife	yes i know its getting not geeting my key board is a walmart special

11-02-2012, 12:21 AM	#5
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694	The International Association of Fire Fighters' ads supporting President Barack Obama, like the one at the link, came out earlier in October. But Hurricane Sandy is a strong reminder of the importance of their message, and IAFF General President Harold Schaitberger drives it home: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/31/1153138/-Shorter-fire-fighters-Please-remember-that-Romney-wants-to-cut-our-jobs

11-02-2012, 08:55 AM	#6
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694	Ooops! Rumor About Non-Union Utility Workers from Alabama Being Denied Access to NY/NJ Work Areas DEBUNKED...by Alabama Utility Workers

11-02-2012, 01:23 PM	#8
DAN_BRONCO_FAN golden knife winner winner of the golden knife award Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: colorado springs area Posts: 2,822 Adopt-a-Bronco: ray lewis knife	f me look at all the post by me its like im spamming i need to just type one piece of crap and be done with it not post 100 in one post in a minute my bad

11-02-2012, 01:51 PM	#12
ant1999e Ring of Famer WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE??? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: BFE Posts: 5,979 Adopt-a-Bronco: Money Ball	Gotta slow down Dan. Think before you post. Once you post it, you own it. If it's a bs story, either admit you were wrong or let the thread die.

11-02-2012, 02:04 PM	#14
Pony Boy "Whoa Nellie" Rub some dirt on it Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 6,279 Adopt-a-Bronco: mellon head	In Joplin MO where the whole town was wiped off the map by a tornado, people showed up by the thousands with pickup trucks and chain saws, some charge a modest fee but most helped for free. The governor didn't ask if they were union members and didn't even require them to have a business permit to work in the devastated area.

11-02-2012, 02:23 PM	#16
DAN_BRONCO_FAN golden knife winner winner of the golden knife award Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: colorado springs area Posts: 2,822 Adopt-a-Bronco: ray lewis knife	ill just stick to posting links to stories and short replies

11-02-2012, 02:30 PM	#17
Smiling Assassin27 STOP! KIPER TIME! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 10,955 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	A Georgia crew is claiming the same thing.

11-02-2012, 02:34 PM	#19
DAN_BRONCO_FAN golden knife winner winner of the golden knife award Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: colorado springs area Posts: 2,822 Adopt-a-Bronco: ray lewis knife	didnt know it was bs til LABF said it was

11-02-2012, 02:48 PM	#21
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,418	Its almost like with internet, we never will know what is true. You can't trust sources anymore. Even the big metworks been caught lying, doctoring pictures to fool us, etc etc. Not pointing at anyone side i am saying neither liberals, or conservatives, have a media outlet that is non-partisan. Journalism and reporting is a quagmire of crappola nowdays. I believe this story is false. Why? because its too soon for people be organized enough to turn away non union workers. Just my opinion this is a union/non union propaganda BS story or maybe a small handfull were turned away and its been blown out of porportion. Who cares anyways the fact is this hurricane sucks for the whol country. We just can't seem to catch a break. Here is to us having better luck regardless of who wins the election. Just 4 yrs with no big terrorist attacks and no big disasters would be a huge help to the economy.

11-02-2012, 04:03 PM	#23
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,418	Message boards, twitter, etc etc.....doznt rqr same amt of grmr.

11-02-2012, 06:22 PM	#25
DAN_BRONCO_FAN golden knife winner winner of the golden knife award Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: colorado springs area Posts: 2,822 Adopt-a-Bronco: ray lewis knife	why is nothing being done right now to help the people on the east coast i see people dumpster diving like they're in a 3rd world country. people with no power people suffering. Katrina 2.0 so wheres the outrage over this like there was when bush was the president.