Per [Unreliable] Sources: DeAngelo Williams traded to the Broncos [Not]

[swaiy]

I dont think anyone in here said Hillman sucks..

[mwill07]

Originally Posted by Mile High Salute

Watch the tape, bro. Same style, similar stats (projecting Hillman if he got more work), similar measureables, same role if DeAngelo got traded to the Broncos. If you don't see it, there's nothing I can do to help you. Just be patient and you'll see that I'm right.

It's literally impossible for me to disagree more.

[DBroncos4life]

Originally Posted by swaiy

I dont think anyone in here said Hillman sucks..

He is literally the youngest player in the NFL, yet people are worried about stunting his development!

[Mile High Salute]

Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

How is it for $2.5?

I misspoke. He actually made $19.5M last year. So only 900 yards with that kind of salary is an even worse deal than I thought, wow.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/85...ind-trade-talk

[Broncos_OTM]

Originally Posted by Mile High Salute

Straw man alert. How many backs are better than DeAngelo Williams? Many more than 5. And Hillman broke all of Marshall Faulk's records at San Diego State. So yeah, you're right...Hillman sucks.

you can get away with speed in college in subpar conferences. caulk was a different beast he was able to transition his game to the pro leval, something well have to wait and see if hilman can. one thing for sure is hilman is not a bell cow back.

[lonestar]

oh 1600 ET can't come fast enough so we can put all of this crap to bed..

then I guess it will be more what ifs for the rest of the year..



unless there is a stud MLB out there I could care less about trading for anything else..

[maven]

We will know in less than 3 hours. I'm sure Denver isn't the only team pursuing him.

[fwf]

Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55

Who is a 30 some back you named all young guys.

Yeah i thought Lynch was older. my bad

[Mile High Salute]

Originally Posted by fwf

Oh its your money? We're 12M under for this season. 2.5M is a weekend for Pat in Barbados.

Your $12M number has already been refuted in this thread. Pat's doing ok, but he still can't get around the salary cap. That money could be better spent towards an extension for Clady or better FAs next year than DeAngelo Williams.

[Broncos_OTM]

Originally Posted by Mile High Salute

I misspoke. He actually made $19.5M last year. So only 900 yards with that kind of salary is an even worse deal than I thought, wow.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/85...ind-trade-talk

Carolina overpaid denver wouldn't.why do you care if Carolina gave him 19m last year?

[lonestar]

Originally Posted by maven

We will know in less than 3 hours. I'm sure Denver isn't the only team pursuing him.

I doubt that DEN is .. this is an unsubstantiated report by no one of authority a forum troll..

[broncocalijohn]

Originally Posted by fwf

I'll be expecting some rep when this hits espn shortly

I will promise you that you will be receiving reps when this doesn't go down. Not the type of reps you will be hoping for here at the Mane. But if you are correct, pos rep for you. You have been warned.

[Mile High Salute]

Originally Posted by swaiy

You somehow keep leaving out the fact that him, JStew, AND Cam Newton had 120+ carries. Of course its horrible for making 14M a year but who's fault is that? He and Stewart would have over 1000 yards last year if Cam Newton wasnt running for 700 yards. As far as him on the bench year, I dont know.

You come off like a dick when you debate dishonestly by putting out false information.

...and why wasn't D-Will good enough to get more than 50/50 carries? If anything, his lofty salary should have motivated Carolina to give him more work, yet apparently it didn't.

[DBroncos4life]

Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

I will promise you that you will be receiving reps when this doesn't go down. Not the type of reps you will be hoping for here at the Mane. But if you are correct, pos rep for you. You have been warned.

Add banned to that threat!

[Broncos_OTM]

Originally Posted by Mile High Salute

Your $12M number has already been refuted in this thread. Pat's doing ok, but he still can't get around the salary cap. That money could be better spent towards an extension for Clady or better FAs next year than DeAngelo Williams.

deangeko can be cut and not paid a cent if we don't want to.so this has nothing to do with clady ability to re-sign

[Beantown Bronco]

Originally Posted by Mile High Salute

Straw man alert. How many backs are better than DeAngelo Williams? Many more than 5. And Hillman broke all of Marshall Faulk's records at San Diego State. So yeah, you're right...Hillman sucks.

Straw man alert. How many backs are better than Hillman? Many more than 35.


To use your earlier example of LenDale White:

Calling Hillman the same as Williams is the equivalent of saying LenDale White is the same as Jerome Bettis. Similar measurables and running style in college. Top production. Why sign Bettis when we can get his clone in White cheaper?

[Broncos_OTM]

forest through the trees....

[Mile High Salute]

Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

That's not at all what I'm doing. Way to twist my words.

For those in the cheap seats (you), I'll try it again.

You're looking at cap hits 2 years from now. Don't. Look at it this way:

2012 is his tryout. For $2.6 mil, we see what he's got left. If he does well or really well, we paid very little this year and we keep him at $4.5 mil for next year. If he sucks, we cut him at the end of the year. No harm, no foul. Minimal cap hit and Pat's out $2.6 mil.

Same as every player you have or think of having on your team. You plan for all scenarios.

I'm actually in the Club Level, but nice try.

I understand what you're saying, but what's DeAngelo's ceiling? Assuming both stay healthy, does he displace McGahee? I don't think so. He's going to be a change of pace guy, similar to Hillman's role now, although probably with a greater % of carries. Still less than 50%. So if it all works out, you're paying him $6M next year to be a backup RB. If it doesn't, like you mentioned, you cut him. But no harm, no foul? I don't think so - you're still out the $2.6M and the 4th or 5th round pick you gave up to get him in the first place.

[maven]

Originally Posted by lonestar

I doubt that DEN is .. this is an unsubstantiated report by no one of authority a forum troll..

Well DeAngelo wouldn't be shocked.

"The thought of staying a Panther never really crossed my mind because the thought of leaving never crossed my mind," Williams said. "In my mind, I'm going to continue being a Panther until told otherwise."

"I'm one of those guys where when my number is called I'm going to try to make the best of it, whether it's as a starter or in a backup role."

"I can't call the plays and run them, too," "I'm not throwing anybody under the bus. I'm not calling anybody out. I just try to make the best of my opportunity. Every play that we've drawn up is designed to score. And if we don't score on a play that's designed to score, then quite naturally you'll be frustrated."

"Does it look like I want to be somewhere else? I'm going to let you guys (in the media) answer that." "I'm going to leave it open for discussion. I'm going to try to get my Twitter followers up. ... It will be disclosed at 4 p.m. Thursday, so stay tuned. It will be breaking news at 4:05 p.m."

[GreatBronco16]

So is the deal done

[mwill07]

Originally Posted by Mile High Salute

...and why wasn't D-Will good enough to get more than 50/50 carries? If anything, his lofty salary should have motivated Carolina to give him more work, yet apparently it didn't.

fans in Carolina are pretty upset at the play-calling and usage of personnel, Deangelo in particular. I don't know how many times I've heard folks b****ing about the read-option stuff they are trying to make work.

[fwf]

Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

I will promise you that you will be receiving reps when this doesn't go down. Not the type of reps you will be hoping for here at the Mane. But if you are correct, pos rep for you. You have been warned.

What does this mean? My guy told me it was going down. I trust him. He's given me good info in the past. So I should not have shared this? Unless something falls thru at the end, its going down. We'll hear tomorrow if it fell thru. Dont ban me yet

[swaiy]

Originally Posted by Mile High Salute

...and why wasn't D-Will good enough to get more than 50/50 carries? If anything, his lofty salary should have motivated Carolina to give him more work, yet apparently it didn't.

Explain to me how he can get 50/50 carries when their rushing attack was 3 guys? It wasnt a question of him being good enough. Their GM is a moron and now he is fired.

Anyway, I think we are done here. I doubt DWill is going to be a Bronco and Im inclined to believe you are a troll as others have pointed out. Even when your claims are proven to be wrong, you twist your argument so that you never have to admit that youre wrong.

Have fun with that

Perhaps you should have run against Obama instead of Romney.

[Mile High Salute]

Originally Posted by Broncos_OTM

Carolina overpaid denver wouldn't.why do you care if Carolina gave him 19m last year?

Because I think $6M next year and $2.6M for half a season of work, plus draft picks is overpaying for a backup RB. Denver can use the money in other places.

[DENVERDUI55]

Originally Posted by fwf

Yeah i thought Lynch was older. my bad

I had to look it up too. I figured he was 28 or 29 not 26. Wow he came into the league at 20 years old.