Per [Unreliable] Sources: DeAngelo Williams traded to the Broncos [Not] - Page 3 - The Orange Mane

Nwp-Apap · 10-31-2012, 10:57 PM

What else did your guy say?

I want to believe this, but I don't want my hopes to be wasted lol. Williams used to be one of my favorite players

fwf · 10-31-2012, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sirhcyennek81

Wouldnt you prefer to develop Hillman and increase his touches as McGahee winds down then trade for a ridiculously expensive option and have to repeat the process in 2014?

If the goal is to develop a lightning and thunder backfield...why not go after Hillis after this season at a more reasonable price then sending needed picks to Carolina for a guy with an 8.7 million dollar cap hit?

No time to develop kids right now. And he's not a great blocker. What if he blows a block and our franchise gets concussed as a result? How many years are we going to have peyton? And what is 6 mil a season for dwill? We're under the cap and it's not like pat needs the money. Alot of contracts are coming off next season too like Dawkins.

fwf · 10-31-2012, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Wilson

I don't believe Elway would make such a trade. This guy is 29, and has a big contract. If it was Jonathan Stweart then I'm all for it.

Dwill has 1057 career attempts. That's about 4 full seasons.

lonestar · 10-31-2012, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fwf

No time to develop kids right now. And he's not a great blocker. What if he blows a block and our franchise gets concussed as a result? How many years are we going to have peyton? And what is 6 mil a season for dwill? We're under the cap and it's not like pat needs the money. Alot of contracts are coming off next season too like Dawkins.

Actually the KID has been lauded for his picking up blitzers..

You have no clue on what Pat needs..

We have loads of contracts that exprire next year and will need that money to pat NEW contracts for those short term rentals John has brought in not to mention Clady is due for a whooper..

go away sonny.. you bother us..

Al Wilson · 10-31-2012, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fwf

Dwill has 1057 career attempts. That's about 4 full seasons.

It's a running back. And he's 29, with a hefty contract. Running backs are the most prone to injury in the NFL. And not to mention, they are the easiest talent to find.

pricejj · 10-31-2012, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by fwf

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So, you're saying it's a done deal, and we're just waiting on an announcement in the morning? Players or picks?

Action · 10-31-2012, 11:19 PM

This trade makes sense if it involves Moreno.

This would be a huge upgrade to depth at RB... very similar to the addition of Koppen at Center.

I am skeptical about just because Deangelo's contract is so big tho...

SonOfLe-loLang · 10-31-2012, 11:21 PM

The contract isnt guaranteed, what do you care what the Broncos pay him this year. Its not like its a cap issue. If they get him for peanuts, he's probably worth more to us than some 6th/7th rounder, and they can always cut him if he's ****.

Action · 10-31-2012, 11:22 PM

Broncos also have 10+ mill in cap space, the 10th most in the league.

baja · 10-31-2012, 11:24 PM

Is this the little known Manning effect?

DENVERDUI55 · 10-31-2012, 11:26 PM

Couple things that have been mentioned already but I'll toss my 2 cents in. What has Williams showed the past couple years? He hasn't looked that good honestly. His big contract is a huge concern. I'm not sure I see this happening.

I'm laughing at this might signal the end or Slowshon. Slowshon's end was in week 3 and he has been inactive since. What would anyone want to trade for a back like him?

theAPAOps5 · 10-31-2012, 11:30 PM

Quick get on a webcam and hold up a sign that says the deal is done.

Action · 10-31-2012, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55

What has Williams showed the past couple years? He hasn't looked that good honestly. His big contract is a huge concern. I'm not sure I see this happening.
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So the fact that he averaged 5.4 YPC last year which was tied for 2nd in the league isn't that good?

SonOfLe-loLang · 10-31-2012, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55

Couple things that have been mentioned already but I'll toss my 2 cents in. What has Williams showed the past couple years? He hasn't looked that good honestly. His big contract is a huge concern. I'm not sure I see this happening.

I'm laughing at this might signal the end or Slowshon. Slowshon's end was in week 3 and he has been inactive since. What would anyone want to trade for a back like him?

Last year he averaged 5 and a half yards a carry. He's ****.

My guess is you didnt watch him play last year. I wont pretend i did beyond highlights

yerner · 10-31-2012, 11:39 PM

i know this isn't true, but i wish it was. this would be cool.

Bacchus · 10-31-2012, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kdissette

actually deangelos contract isnt guaranteed for anything after this year...so if he wanted to stick around he would have to restructure...i say its a good deal for a 1yr deal as long as we have the cap space...who knows thats gonna happen to our RBs...all i know is if mcgahee goes down hillman is wayyyyyyyy too small to take on the load and slowshon wont break and tackles or hold onto the ball so why not try to make this move?

Exactly, the signing bonus he has already received. Nothing else is guaranteed. Bring him in for $2.5 million for the rest of the season and see how he does. It's about winning now right? We could do without a 4th or 5th rounder to add Williams.

DENVERDUI55 · 10-31-2012, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

Last year he averaged 5 and a half yards a carry. He's ****.

My guess is you didnt watch him play last year. I wont pretend i did beyond highlights

He is an average back that isn't worth his salary. There is more to a player than stats. It' isn't hard to boost your YPC with one decent long run a game.

uplink · 10-31-2012, 11:46 PM

I think they want to go run heavy when teams drop both safeties to cover against Manning's passing game. They want to have the backs to be able to run all night if teams do that, so maybe that is why they might go for Williams as McGahee has to be subbed for quite often. Williams might be an upgrade over McGahee also.

DENVERDUI55 · 10-31-2012, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Action

So the fact that he averaged 5.4 YPC last year which was tied for 2nd in the league isn't that good?

Tell me if you think this is good. Very average if you ask me.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/gamelo...ngelo-williams

SonOfLe-loLang · 10-31-2012, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55

He is an average back that isn't worth his salary. There is more to a player than stats. It' isn't hard to boost your YPC with one decent long run a game.

I'll risk a 5th rounder for him any day. I aint payin his salary

And 5.4 is indicative of more than "one big run a game." Though if thats what he gave me, I'd take that **** and run.

Al Wilson · 10-31-2012, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bacchus

It's about winning now right? We could do without a 4th or 5th rounder to add Williams.

I'd rather send that 4th to the Cheeps for Dwayne Bowe. Now that's a player with potential who was the victim of playing with no quarterback.

tsiguy96 · 10-31-2012, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Wilson

I'd rather send that 4th to the Cheeps for Dwayne Bowe. Now that's a player with potential who was the victim of playing with no quarterback.

hes gonna want 10 mil a year and we have 2 WR who will need new contracts soon.

uplink · 10-31-2012, 11:51 PM

I think the offensive trend for teams with good qBs this year is to audible into runs at the line of scrimmage when the defense plays to stop the passing game. It is what Brady and P. Manning are doing this year with great success. So the broncos might want to make sure the have the RBs to do it.

Bacchus · 10-31-2012, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55

Tell me if you think this is good. Very average if you ask me.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/gamelo...ngelo-williams

With Peyton at QB if oppossing defense try to put their nickle in Denver needs to exploit that with a running game. With Williams' speed they would be much more dangerous when running the ball. McGahee is a 5 to 8 yard back. Williams can pop it from any distance and if the defense is in the nickle Williams would be even more dangerous.

That being said I for not look for this deal to be done. For all their talk about winning now Elway seems to be very conservative or severely conservative with Bolwen's money.

pricejj · 10-31-2012, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by uplink

I think they want to go run heavy when teams drop both safeties to cover against Manning's passing game. They want to have the backs to be able to run all night if teams do that, so maybe that is why they might go for Williams as McGahee has to be subbed for quite often. Williams might be an upgrade over McGahee also.

Elway knows it took TD to win a SB.

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10-31-2012, 10:57 PM	#51
Nwp-Apap Solid Starter New to the Forum Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 186 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	What else did your guy say? I want to believe this, but I don't want my hopes to be wasted lol. Williams used to be one of my favorite players

10-31-2012, 11:19 PM	#57
Action Perennial Pro-bowler New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 883 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	This trade makes sense if it involves Moreno. This would be a huge upgrade to depth at RB... very similar to the addition of Koppen at Center. I am skeptical about just because Deangelo's contract is so big tho...

10-31-2012, 11:21 PM	#58
SonOfLe-loLang Young Buck Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 13,228 Adopt-a-Bronco: Thunder (RIP)	The contract isnt guaranteed, what do you care what the Broncos pay him this year. Its not like its a cap issue. If they get him for peanuts, he's probably worth more to us than some 6th/7th rounder, and they can always cut him if he's ****.

10-31-2012, 11:22 PM	#59
Action Perennial Pro-bowler New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 883 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Broncos also have 10+ mill in cap space, the 10th most in the league.

10-31-2012, 11:24 PM	#60
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,905 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Is this the little known Manning effect?

10-31-2012, 11:26 PM	#61
DENVERDUI55 Drunk on Arrival! New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,176 Adopt-a-Bronco: Montee Ball	Couple things that have been mentioned already but I'll toss my 2 cents in. What has Williams showed the past couple years? He hasn't looked that good honestly. His big contract is a huge concern. I'm not sure I see this happening. I'm laughing at this might signal the end or Slowshon. Slowshon's end was in week 3 and he has been inactive since. What would anyone want to trade for a back like him?

10-31-2012, 11:30 PM	#62
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,058 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	Quick get on a webcam and hold up a sign that says the deal is done.

10-31-2012, 11:39 PM	#65
yerner Ring of Famer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Charlottesville VA Posts: 3,305	i know this isn't true, but i wish it was. this would be cool.

10-31-2012, 11:46 PM	#68
uplink Ring of Famer Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,813	I think they want to go run heavy when teams drop both safeties to cover against Manning's passing game. They want to have the backs to be able to run all night if teams do that, so maybe that is why they might go for Williams as McGahee has to be subbed for quite often. Williams might be an upgrade over McGahee also.

10-31-2012, 11:51 PM	#73
uplink Ring of Famer Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,813	I think the offensive trend for teams with good qBs this year is to audible into runs at the line of scrimmage when the defense plays to stop the passing game. It is what Brady and P. Manning are doing this year with great success. So the broncos might want to make sure the have the RBs to do it.