Broncos #1 overall - per football outsiders - The Orange Mane

mwill07 · 10-30-2012, 08:41 PM

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Both Denver and San Francisco now rank in the top five for both offense and defense, with roughly average special teams. We all know the Broncos' defense has improved this year, but top five is a bit of a shock. However, this is where the strength of schedule issue really comes in. The Broncos have played the toughest set of opposing offenses so far, including five games against teams in the top 10 of offensive DVOA. And things are about to get much, much easier for the Broncos. Denver has the easiest remaining schedule in the league by a huge margin. Their average opponent remaining has a DVOA of -17.7%. Oakland is next at -8.8%. The average offense left on the Denver schedule has a DVOA of -11.3% (ranked 32nd) and the average defense left has a DVOA of 6.8% (ranked 30th, ahead of only Miami and Houston). Denver's road back to the playoffs is now so obvious that Von Miller could even see it without his ironic horn-rimmed glasses.
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mwill07 · 10-30-2012, 08:44 PM

we should also mention that KC comes in dead last, oak and SD are 24th and 25th, respectively.

Drunken.Broncoholic · 10-30-2012, 08:44 PM

I remember back in summertime there were a lot of us worried about this seasons schedule. Some of these games got a bit easier with how bad a lot of teams have become.

Bacchus · 10-30-2012, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by by Mr Shush :: Tue, 10/30/2012 - 11:05pm

As a Texans fan, I am very, very glad that there is not much chance of having to go back to Denver in the playoffs. I'd even possibly rather Foxborough.

Texans are worried..... as they should be.

Atwater His Ass · 10-30-2012, 09:57 PM

Concern I would start to have is that if we dominate against lesser opposition down the stretch, that we may get shocked by a better team in the playoffs and get knocked out early, not being ready to deal with an above average team.

If we start a big winning streak, the media is going to be all over this team singing our praises. Hopefully the coaching staff and leaders on this team can keep everyone grounded and focused as the season progreses.

Kaylore · 10-30-2012, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic

I remember back in summertime there were a lot of us worried about this seasons schedule. Some of these games got a bit easier with how bad a lot of teams have become.

Yes but don't sleep on the Bengals, the Browns and the Buccs. All are trap games and all have B in their names.

Agamemnon · 10-30-2012, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bacchus

Texans are worried..... as they should be.

Every team in the league should be worried with the way Manning is playing and how our defense just shut down the top passing attack in the league. If we can stop losing the turnover battle in games, we are going to be very hard to beat. I'm still wondering if that's going to happen though. Turnovers remain the one thing that could really derail what is starting to look like a serious contender.

Jetmeck · 10-30-2012, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Atwater His Ass

Concern I would start to have is that if we dominate against lesser opposition down the stretch, that we may get shocked by a better team in the playoffs and get knocked out early, not being ready to deal with an above average team.

If we start a big winning streak, the media is going to be all over this team singing our praises. Hopefully the coaching staff and leaders on this team can keep everyone grounded and focused as the season progreses.

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Jetmeck · 10-30-2012, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

Yes but don't sleep on the Bengals, the Browns and the Buccs. All are trap games and all have B in their names.

As in our biatches....lol I hope

BowlenBall · 10-30-2012, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

Yes but don't sleep on the Bengals, the Browns and the Buccs. All are trap games and all have B in their names.

Good point -- surprised this isn't covered more in the media.

lonestar · 10-30-2012, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic

I remember back in summertime there were a lot of us worried about this seasons schedule. Some of these games got a bit easier with how bad a lot of teams have become.

East coast games have been our bane for decades.. in fact east of the Mississippi have not been stellar games..

While he have won a few the CIN game a few years ago was on a lucky tip of the ball..

I still am concerned about BAL although most of their stellar players are on IR, CIN HAD a potent offense last year but not much happening now.. the BUCs could be a scary game Panthers seem to be coming back and always a struggle at arrowhead..

while it looks good now things can change week to week..

I feel loads better about this team than I did during TC, I did not think the manning mind meld would happen so fast with his no huddle thought it would take a few months before it started to click.. right now looks pretty well done..

lets all knock on wood for some great games coming up..

SonOfLe-loLang · 10-30-2012, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Atwater His Ass

Concern I would start to have is that if we dominate against lesser opposition down the stretch, that we may get shocked by a better team in the playoffs and get knocked out early, not being ready to deal with an above average team.

If we start a big winning streak, the media is going to be all over this team singing our praises. Hopefully the coaching staff and leaders on this team can keep everyone grounded and focused as the season progreses.

What a problem to have.

NFLBRONCO · 10-30-2012, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Atwater His Ass

Concern I would start to have is that if we dominate against lesser opposition down the stretch, that we may get shocked by a better team in the playoffs and get knocked out early, not being ready to deal with an above average team.

If we start a big winning streak, the media is going to be all over this team singing our praises. Hopefully the coaching staff and leaders on this team can keep everyone grounded and focused as the season progreses.

Like Houston and NE?

Regardless whether we go 5-4 or 8-1 the rest of the way. These two teams expose our weaknesses on D the most. While I think our O will be better not sure if our D will improve enough to actually expect to beat these teams. NE has really toyed with us lately.

extralife · 10-30-2012, 11:00 PM

I'm worried about Cincy and Tampa. Tampa is for real offensively right now, and Cincy has a good D line, good run D, and AJ Green

Bronco Boy · 10-30-2012, 11:06 PM

Do we get some sort of trophy for attaining this ranking?

lonestar · 10-30-2012, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco Boy

Do we get some sort of trophy for attaining this ranking?

yep the "scares the hell out of upcoming coordinators silver one"..

Agamemnon · 10-30-2012, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NFLBRONCO

Like Houston and NE?

Regardless whether we go 5-4 or 8-1 the rest of the way. These two teams expose our weaknesses on D the most. While I think our O will be better not sure if our D will improve enough to actually expect to beat these teams. NE has really toyed with us lately.

Joe Mays isn't starting for us anymore. That goes a long way towards nullifying the weaknesses against those two teams.

BroncoMan4ever · 10-30-2012, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bacchus

Texans are worried..... as they should be.

Denver is a scary team to play. You don't know which team will show up. Double digit leads are meaningless until the clock reads 0:00. If the offense comes out firing it is almost impossible to stop. The defense can flip a switch and go straight beast mode. And the team still has not hit it's peak; We have yet to see a complete mistake free game.

mwill07 · 10-31-2012, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Atwater His Ass

Concern I would start to have is that if we dominate against lesser opposition down the stretch, that we may get shocked by a better team in the playoffs and get knocked out early, not being ready to deal with an above average team.

If we start a big winning streak, the media is going to be all over this team singing our praises. Hopefully the coaching staff and leaders on this team can keep everyone grounded and focused as the season progreses.

I'm not really concerned about that. IMO that would be a bigger deal if this was not a team full of veterans or if it was a team w/o any playoff success.

The vast majority of players on this team have won at least one playoff game. That means quite a bit, IMO. It's not like we are the Atlanta Falcons, who have struggled in January and now have that "can't win in the playoffs" label. It's not like we are the 2011 Detroit Lions, a team who's leaders don't have any playoff experience at all.

CEH · 10-31-2012, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by extralife

I'm worried about Cincy and Tampa. Tampa is for real offensively right now, and Cincy has a good D line, good run D, and AJ Green

Cincy loses to crappy teams and TB just lost Nicks. They now have both All Pro guards out

AJ Green can be taken out of the game then Dalton has to win in some other way

fontaine · 10-31-2012, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

Yes but don't sleep on the Bengals, the Browns and the Buccs. All are trap games and all have B in their names.

Do you mean the Cleveland Browns or Kansas City "Browns"?

Kaylore · 10-31-2012, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by fontaine

Do you mean the Cleveland Browns or Kansas City "Browns"?

The Kansas City Clowns!

I actually believe winning games and going on a big run is a good thing. The parity between teams in the NFL is very close. This isn't like beating up on a big sky opponent at home and then going to Mobile to play the Crimson Tide. Historically teams that win a bunch of games against bad teams tend to win many games against good teams too, though the margin of victory isn't as big. This is because the things that win football games are universal and teams can get good at it. We just have to make sure we don't play down to an opponent, which we haven't done all year, to be honest.

Traveler · 10-31-2012, 06:52 AM

I'm anxious to see if we can perform better in games starting at 1:00pm. That's been a problem for the team for quite awhile. Wonder if JF plans to have the team leave early to try and adjust to the time zone?

Old Dude · 10-31-2012, 07:06 AM

Having an easy schedule and taking advantage of it are two different things.

I'd feel a lot better about it if Denver didn't have such a miserable history - going back several years now, even into the Shanahan regime - of fading down the final stretch of the regular season.

So we'll just have to wait & see.

It certainly helps that the rest of the AFC West is such a mess.

Beantown Bronco · 10-31-2012, 07:16 AM

"Both Denver and San Francisco now rank in the top five for both offense and defense, with roughly average special teams."

"Average" special teams?

Prater is the best kickoff guy in the league and is one of only four kickers who are perfect on field goals and extra points this season.

Colquitt is the #5 ranked punter in the league in net distance.

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10-30-2012, 08:44 PM	#2
mwill07 Ring of Famer Lurker Extraordinaire Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,195 Adopt-a-Bronco: VMFM	we should also mention that KC comes in dead last, oak and SD are 24th and 25th, respectively.

10-30-2012, 08:44 PM	#3
Drunken.Broncoholic Steppin on feet Pickled in Orange and Blue Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Carmel Ca Posts: 6,291 Adopt-a-Bronco: LeLo Lang	I remember back in summertime there were a lot of us worried about this seasons schedule. Some of these games got a bit easier with how bad a lot of teams have become.

10-30-2012, 09:57 PM	#5
Atwater His Ass Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,364 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Concern I would start to have is that if we dominate against lesser opposition down the stretch, that we may get shocked by a better team in the playoffs and get knocked out early, not being ready to deal with an above average team. If we start a big winning streak, the media is going to be all over this team singing our praises. Hopefully the coaching staff and leaders on this team can keep everyone grounded and focused as the season progreses.

10-30-2012, 11:00 PM	#14
extralife Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,921	I'm worried about Cincy and Tampa. Tampa is for real offensively right now, and Cincy has a good D line, good run D, and AJ Green

10-30-2012, 11:06 PM	#15
Bronco Boy Avid Ambien Abuser It all makes so much sense! Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 1,901 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eric Decker	Do we get some sort of trophy for attaining this ranking?

10-31-2012, 06:52 AM	#23
Traveler Traveling Man! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 4,411 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ryan Clady	I'm anxious to see if we can perform better in games starting at 1:00pm. That's been a problem for the team for quite awhile. Wonder if JF plans to have the team leave early to try and adjust to the time zone?

10-31-2012, 07:06 AM	#24
Old Dude Host Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: As if I'd tell you crazies! Posts: 14,158	Having an easy schedule and taking advantage of it are two different things. I'd feel a lot better about it if Denver didn't have such a miserable history - going back several years now, even into the Shanahan regime - of fading down the final stretch of the regular season. So we'll just have to wait & see. It certainly helps that the rest of the AFC West is such a mess.

10-31-2012, 07:16 AM	#25
Beantown Bronco Athletic Supporter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mass Posts: 19,049 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	"Both Denver and San Francisco now rank in the top five for both offense and defense, with roughly average special teams." "Average" special teams? Prater is the best kickoff guy in the league and is one of only four kickers who are perfect on field goals and extra points this season. Colquitt is the #5 ranked punter in the league in net distance.