Bipartisan Poll projects Romney to win decisively - Page 3 - The Orange Mane

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 10-30-2012, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

No comment on the fact that Fred Barnes - the guy who wrote your OP for the Weekly Standard - dishonestly respresented the poll he cited, Khan?

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that comment.

elsid13 · 10-30-2012, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that comment.

LABF

That is not nice or accurate. Let's not fall to the level that is unacceptable in the civilized world.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 10-30-2012, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by elsid13

LABF

That is not nice or accurate. Let's not fall to the level that is unacceptable in the civilized world.

WTF are you talking about?

It's not "nice" or "accurate" to suggest that we shouldn't hold our breath waiting for Khan to admit his OP was dishonest?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 10-30-2012, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by elsid13

LABF

That is not nice or accurate. Let's not fall to the level that is unacceptable in the civilized world.

Kaylore · 10-30-2012, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by elsid13

LABF

That is not nice or accurate. Let's not fall to the level that is unacceptable in the civilized world.

The left is the party of tolerance and acceptance...unless you disagree with them. Then they try to destroy and demean you.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 10-30-2012, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

The left is the party of tolerance and acceptance...unless you disagree with them. Then they try to destroy and demean you.

It's not a matter of agreement vs. disagreement:

You posted an article that was exposed as dishonest, and now you refuse to take responsibility for it.

Kaylore · 10-30-2012, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

No comment on the fact that Fred Barnes - the guy who wrote your OP for the Weekly Standard - dishonestly respresented the poll he cited, Khan?

I didn't know the numbers were nit-picked when I posted it, honestly. I did review it and saw this

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"In sum, this data indicates this election remains very close on the surface, but the political environment and the composition of the likely electorate favor Governor Romney. These factors come into play with our “vote election model” – which takes into account variables like vote intensity, voters who say they are definite in their vote, and demographics like age and education. In that snapshot of today’s vote model, Mitt Romney leads Barack Obama by five-points – 52% to 47%. While that gap can certainly be closed by the ground game of the Democrats, reports from the field would indicate that not to be the case, and Mitt Romney may well be heading to a decisive victory."

You are aware Romney is leading Independent voters by double-digits across the board, right? And as I've always said, I think we could see an electoral win with a popular vote loss. I do not believe Obama is as safe as people around here believe, though.

Rohirrim · 10-30-2012, 08:11 AM

Anybody in the 47% who votes for Romney should be certified an idiot.

BroncoInferno · 10-30-2012, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

I didn't know the numbers were nit-picked when I posted it, honestly. I did review it and saw this

You are aware Romney is leading Independent voters by double-digits across the board, right? And as I've always said, I think we could see an electoral win with a popular vote loss. I do not believe Obama is as safe as people around here believe, though.

I don't think it's safe or in the bag for Obama at all, but I do think the electoral breakdown favors him right now. Romney's going to dominate the vote in the Bible-belt, so he very well could take the popular vote but drop the EC. I think El Minion posted a break down that showed Obama with leads ranging from 3-5 points in the Northeast, Southwest, and Northwest, but down 22 points in the Southeast (I might be a little off on the that...maybe El Minion can repost). In other words, in the states Romney already has in the bag, he's completely dominating the vote, which could result in a popular vote edge. However, the polling in toss up states has been pretty steady the last couple of weeks. Romney tightened things after the first debate, but contrary to GOP claims the momentum appears to have stopped and the numbers in those states are remaining fairly constant. Of course, some of those Obama leads are within the margin of error, so we'll see.

BroncoInferno · 10-30-2012, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Anybody in the 47% who votes for Romney should be certified an idiot.

I don't think a lot of the 47% percent even realize they are part of it.

spdirty · 10-30-2012, 08:40 AM

Settle down. We'll all know in a week.

TonyR · 10-30-2012, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

I do not believe Obama is as safe as people around here believe, though.

I'm a pessimst so I'm very concerned and open to the real possibility of a Romney win. It only takes a small swing in a couple of states for him to pull it off. It's all going to be about turnout.

pricejj · 10-30-2012, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyR

I'm a pessimst so I'm very concerned and open to the real possibility of a Romney win. It only takes a small swing in a couple of states for him to pull it off. It's all going to be about turnout.

Romney is to the left of Bill Clinton, so I'm not sure what you're worried about.

DenverBrit · 10-30-2012, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by pricejj

Romney is to the left of Bill Clinton, so I'm not sure what you're worried about.

How could you possibly know?

He has more positions than the Kama Sutra.

pricejj · 10-30-2012, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverBrit

How could you possibly know?

He has more positions than the Kama Sutra.

Romney was governor of Massachusetts, and led in a very bi-partisan manner. His political record speaks for itself.

It's funny, all of the liberal's feigning a false Romney extremism, when Obama has been the most polarizing, and extreme figure in modern American political history.

DenverBrit · 10-30-2012, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by pricejj

Romney was governor of Massachusetts, and led in a very bi-partisan manner. His political record speaks for itself.

It's funny, all of the liberal's feigning a false Romney extremism, when Obama has been the most polarizing, and extreme figure in modern American political history.

And since, has done a 180 on about every position. He's a glove puppet for the far right now.

From the Economist.

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So, Mitt, what do you really believe?

Too much about the Republican candidate for the presidency is far too mysterious

WHEN Mitt Romney was governor of liberal Massachusetts, he supported abortion, gun control, tackling climate change and a requirement that everyone should buy health insurance, backed up with generous subsidies for those who could not afford it. Now, as he prepares to fly to Tampa to accept the Republican Party’s nomination for president on August 30th, he opposes all those things. A year ago he favoured keeping income taxes at their current levels; now he wants to slash them for everybody, with the rate falling from 35% to 28% for the richest Americans.

All politicians flip-flop from time to time; but Mr Romney could win an Olympic medal in it

Time to wake up!! Seriously, click read this piece, it''s on the money.

http://www.economist.com/node/21560864

BroncoInferno · 10-30-2012, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by pricejj

Romney was governor of Massachusetts, and led in a very bi-partisan manner.

Sure, that's why he issued over 800 vetos and left office with a 34% approval rating after one term...everyone in Mass was just thrilled with his bi-partisan efforts

TonyR · 10-30-2012, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by pricejj

Romney was governor of Massachusetts, and led in a very bi-partisan manner.

I see you bought into this myth just as easily as you bought into the myth of him somehow being even remotely "liberal". You're a product of the right wing propaganda machine. It's all you know.

pricejj · 10-30-2012, 09:47 AM

Romney would:

1. Repeal and replace Obamacare with legislation that actually reduces healthcare costs.
2. Reduce the deficit, and bring the U.S. back towards solvency.
3. Lower the corporate tax rate, eliminate the loopholes, and bring jobs back to the U.S.

That's good enough for me, and in far contrast to Obama's extreme policies.

Kaylore · 10-30-2012, 09:48 AM

I don't think Romney changed. I think he said what he needed to to get the hard core right behind him. He'll be a middle of the road Prez, and sadly, probably not substantively too different than Obama on a lot of things.

pricejj · 10-30-2012, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyR

I see you bought into this myth just as easily as you bought into the myth of him somehow being even remotely "liberal". You're a product of the right wing propaganda machine. It's all you know.

You can save your insults with someone who will bicker with you. I'm not into that form of behavior.

Mecklomaniac · 10-30-2012, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Anybody in the 47% who votes for Romney should be certified an idiot.

Anyone in the 47% who wants to stay there for the rest of their lives should vote Obama.

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Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.
Alexis de Tocqueville

“Society will develop a new kind of servitude which covers the surface of society with a network of complicated rules, through which the most original minds and the most energetic characters cannot penetrate. It does not tyrannise but it compresses, enervates, extinguishes, and stupefies a people, till each nation is reduced to nothing better than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd.”
― Alexis de Tocqueville

Irish Stout · 10-30-2012, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecklomaniac

Anyone in the 47% who wants to stay there for the rest of their lives should vote Obama.

Good, that includes all the retirees living on the social security they paid in all their lives... Now how do we convince them?

Irish Stout · 10-30-2012, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by pricejj

Romney is to the left of Bill Clinton, so I'm not sure what you're worried about.

No blow jobs in the oval office is a big concern of mine. How can we trust a man who will not accept blow jobs in the oval office? Just makes me uncomfortable.

pricejj · 10-30-2012, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Irish Stout

No blow jobs in the oval office is a big concern of mine. How can we trust a man who will not accept blow jobs in the oval office? Just makes me uncomfortable.

You think adultery is...cool?

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10-30-2012, 08:11 AM	#58
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,854	Anybody in the 47% who votes for Romney should be certified an idiot.

10-30-2012, 08:40 AM	#61
spdirty Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bailey Posts: 13,903 Adopt-a-Bronco: Koppen	Settle down. We'll all know in a week.

10-30-2012, 09:47 AM	#69
pricejj jungle Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Louisville, CO Posts: 5,191	Romney would: 1. Repeal and replace Obamacare with legislation that actually reduces healthcare costs. 2. Reduce the deficit, and bring the U.S. back towards solvency. 3. Lower the corporate tax rate, eliminate the loopholes, and bring jobs back to the U.S. That's good enough for me, and in far contrast to Obama's extreme policies.

10-30-2012, 09:48 AM	#70
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,074 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	I don't think Romney changed. I think he said what he needed to to get the hard core right behind him. He'll be a middle of the road Prez, and sadly, probably not substantively too different than Obama on a lot of things.