For those down on the defense.... - Page 3 - The Orange Mane

loborugger · 10-28-2012, 10:02 PM

They seem to be improving at getting off the field on 3rd down - esp the dreaded 3rd and long.

Bacchus · 10-28-2012, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by loborugger

They seem to be improving at getting off the field on 3rd down - esp the dreaded 3rd and long.

Yeah the Saints were 1 for 12 on 3rd down!! Nice job guys!!!

sgbfan · 10-29-2012, 12:11 AM

Broncos D has been awesome when they played Oakland, SD, and NO. What do all these games have in common? No Mays! Coincidence? I think not!

LongDongJohnson · 10-29-2012, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by sgbfan

Broncos D has been awesome when they played Oakland, SD, and NO. What do all these games have in common? No Mays! Coincidence? I think not!

Most definitely not a coincidence. Mays is no good.

spiralism · 10-29-2012, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sgbfan

Broncos D has been awesome when they played Oakland, SD, and NO. What do all these games have in common? No Mays! Coincidence? I think not!

Collinsworth was pointing out that Brooking was getting players in the right position and organising the D all night. Mays hasn't the ability to do that. Or anything other than tackle somebody directly ahead of him

WolfpackGuy · 10-29-2012, 05:57 AM

Their 3 best games have been when Joe Mays was either suspended or relegated to special teams.

Carter, Harris, and Leonhard have come up big as well.

TonyR · 10-29-2012, 06:33 AM

I was surprised how successful the D was last night considering the lack of pass rush. You'd expect Brees to kill us with time to throw.

2KBack · 10-29-2012, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyR

I was surprised how successful the D was last night considering the lack of pass rush. You'd expect Brees to kill us with time to throw.

It was there, but Brees is no dummy,they went with the quick passes. That played into the defensive gameplan. The threat of the Denver pass rush still made that performance possible.

TheReverend · 10-29-2012, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by loborugger

They seem to be improving at getting off the field on 3rd down - esp the dreaded 3rd and long.

Coverage is tightening up!

Outside of last night's best Broncos LB performance since Al Wilson from WWIII, we also saw some excellent play out of Trevathan last night, for one.

baja · 10-29-2012, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyR

I was surprised how successful the D was last night considering the lack of pass rush. You'd expect Brees to kill us with time to throw.

Our secondary was playing very in your face aggressive D and it was a thing of beauty.

It was a great defensive game plan. JDR is getting a lot out of the young guys

Drunken.Broncoholic · 10-29-2012, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by baja

Our secondary was playing very in your face aggressive D and it was a thing of beauty.

It was a great defensive game plan. JDR is getting a lot out of the young guys

Ya the secondary is playing tons better than start of the season. The reaction times are impressive. I'm very happy with how this defense has progressed. Collinsworth brought up a point that it seems it doesn't just have to be Von and doom pressuring to get results. Others are stepping up in their duties

Br0nc0Buster · 10-29-2012, 08:26 AM

We didn't get sacks, but the pressure was there
Guys were getting in Brees face and I think that was leading to some of his throws being a bit off
He couldnt get into rythm, our defense wouldnt let him

How nice is it for once to actually give a great qb a hard time?
That is something we havent seen in a long time

TonyR · 10-29-2012, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Br0nc0Buster

We didn't get sacks, but the pressure was there

You think so? I would say it was sometimes but overall I'd categorize it as "inconsistent". But whatever we did it worked! But I have to agree with what Collinsworth noted: you would assume big days from Von and Doom would be needed to win this game. We only sacked Brees once (Woodyard), and only hit him one other time (Von). You're normally not going to beat Brees with those numbers.

Br0nc0Buster · 10-29-2012, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyR

You think so? I would say it was sometimes but overall I'd categorize it as "inconsistent". But whatever we did it worked! But I have to agree with what Collinsworth noted: you would assume big days from Von and Doom would be needed to win this game. We only sacked Brees once (Woodyard), and only hit him one other time (Von). You're normally not going to beat Brees with those numbers.

Brees needs passing lanes because he is so short and I thought our Dline did a good job clogging up those lanes and making him uncomfortable

I wasnt expecting us to sack him a lot since he is one of the hardest qbs to sack like Manning

But the main thing was we needed to clog up the throwing lanes and force him to move around and I thought we did that

RedskinBronco · 10-29-2012, 08:57 AM

I am very giddy today because of the defense. It cannot be understated how awesome they looked against a top notch offense.

Very, very encouraging. Especially when you combine it with the fact that Manning is basically almost back to MVP form. LOOK OUT!

lonestar · 10-29-2012, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by spiralism

Collinsworth was pointing out that Brooking was getting players in the right position and organising the D all night.

Should be the reason DJ is relegated to backup if kept at all as a spare part in case of injury. we all know from years past experience that Dj can't make calls like that either.

Bacchus · 10-29-2012, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by sgbfan

Broncos D has been awesome when they played Oakland, SD, and NO. What do all these games have in common? No Mays! Coincidence? I think not!

There was also no Porter for two of thoise games.

TonyR · 10-29-2012, 09:57 AM

Now if this defense could just figure out how to defend the Patriots we'd be in business!

MagicHef · 10-29-2012, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyR

You think so? I would say it was sometimes but overall I'd categorize it as "inconsistent". But whatever we did it worked! But I have to agree with what Collinsworth noted: you would assume big days from Von and Doom would be needed to win this game. We only sacked Brees once (Woodyard), and only hit him one other time (Von). You're normally not going to beat Brees with those numbers.

When Brees kept throwing right before a defender got to him, it means that he is throwing earlier than he would like to. He had 20 incompletions, and it's not because he just had an off night.

bronco militia · 10-29-2012, 10:05 AM

it was nice seeing Von Miller playing well in coverage. He is quickly becoming the complete bad ass LB the broncos have desperately needed.

pricejj · 10-29-2012, 10:30 AM

Crowd noise definitely played a factor. It was loud the entire game, and especially on 3rd downs...from my perspective.

Also, Keith Brookings pink rambo-style headband, may have played a factor...

lonestar · 10-29-2012, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bacchus

There was also no Porter for two of thoise games.

no sure he comes back as a starter if he comes back at all..

these kiddies are doing a great job..
in fact last night it looked like Champ was the guy brees was picking on.. I know that is because of Colston..

but even so it may be time for Champ to decide to finish his career at Free safety..

Mediator12 · 10-29-2012, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

Coverage is tightening up!

Outside of last night's best Broncos LB performance since Al Wilson from WWIII, we also saw some excellent play out of Trevathan last night, for one.

Yeah the LB position was solid all night long and not the usual liability underneath and down the seams that it has been. However, Graham played horrible last night, maybe due to injury. He dropped 4 first down passes and the Saints were sloppy on the deep balls they usually connect on. DEN had a lot to do with that, but the Saints gave them a lot of favors too.

Brees was under some decent pressure, but he also was off more than usual when he did not have it either. Overall, it was a combination of DEN playing aggressive coverages and giving Brees some different looks all night long in passing situations along with NO not looking very NO like on offense. Sean Payton was very missed last night as the offense was not its usual multiple formations and personnel and it showed too.

Very happy with scheme and adjustments last night too. Lots of under brackets from the safeties and LB's without the blitzing. I liked the gameplan and even better the execution. Something they have struggled to do early in the game this year.

Tim · 10-29-2012, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by lonestar

no sure he comes back as a starter if he comes back at all..

these kiddies are doing a great job..
in fact last night it looked like Champ was the guy brees was picking on.. I know that is because of Colston..

but even so it may be time for Champ to decide to finish his career at Free safety..

The second half of this post is a joke right?

Bacchus · 11-18-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by loborugger

They seem to be improving at getting off the field on 3rd down - esp the dreaded 3rd and long.

The Broncos have held Carolina and S.D. 0-20 on 3rd down the last two weeks!! This defense is something special and they are getting better every week.

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10-28-2012, 10:02 PM	#51
loborugger lost in the ether Did we finally get a FB??? Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The 'cuse Posts: 5,783 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Hillis	They seem to be improving at getting off the field on 3rd down - esp the dreaded 3rd and long.

10-29-2012, 12:11 AM	#53
sgbfan Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,002	Broncos D has been awesome when they played Oakland, SD, and NO. What do all these games have in common? No Mays! Coincidence? I think not!

10-29-2012, 05:57 AM	#56
WolfpackGuy Call me, "Maybe" Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Delaware Posts: 5,675	Their 3 best games have been when Joe Mays was either suspended or relegated to special teams. Carter, Harris, and Leonhard have come up big as well.

10-29-2012, 06:33 AM	#57
TonyR Franchise Poster Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mid-Atlantic Posts: 15,572	I was surprised how successful the D was last night considering the lack of pass rush. You'd expect Brees to kill us with time to throw.

10-29-2012, 08:26 AM	#62
Br0nc0Buster 2012 AFC West Champs stiff arming through the playoffs Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 4,432	We didn't get sacks, but the pressure was there Guys were getting in Brees face and I think that was leading to some of his throws being a bit off He couldnt get into rythm, our defense wouldnt let him How nice is it for once to actually give a great qb a hard time? That is something we havent seen in a long time

10-29-2012, 08:57 AM	#65
RedskinBronco Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,596	I am very giddy today because of the defense. It cannot be understated how awesome they looked against a top notch offense. Very, very encouraging. Especially when you combine it with the fact that Manning is basically almost back to MVP form. LOOK OUT!

10-29-2012, 09:57 AM	#68
TonyR Franchise Poster Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Mid-Atlantic Posts: 15,572	Now if this defense could just figure out how to defend the Patriots we'd be in business!

10-29-2012, 10:05 AM	#70
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,591	it was nice seeing Von Miller playing well in coverage. He is quickly becoming the complete bad ass LB the broncos have desperately needed.

10-29-2012, 10:30 AM	#71
pricejj jungle Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Louisville, CO Posts: 5,187	Crowd noise definitely played a factor. It was loud the entire game, and especially on 3rd downs...from my perspective. Also, Keith Brookings pink rambo-style headband, may have played a factor...