We're a RB and LB away from being contenders - Page 3 - The Orange Mane

theAPAOps5 · 10-28-2012, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by extralife

I think you guys are pretty dumb.

I happen to agree that Hillman probably isn't ready, but even if you don't agree you guys are nuts. Do you think the Broncos are going to look at the film this week and be like WHELP GUYS I THINK THAT'S IT WE'RE PRETTY AWESOME LETS PACK IT IN AND JERK EACH OTHER OFF. A week ago most everyone here would have agreed that the LB corps isn't up to snuff.

There is always room for improvement, and improving matters more to good teams, not less. After TDs Peyton brings the offense together to review the drive and go over mistakes. According to you guys that would make him a terrible person, he should probably just sit down and work off the wood.

Timing is everything. And bad timing is made worse when it follows a game that was full of domination.

DENVERDUI55 · 10-28-2012, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

Really? Woodyard has made more plays in a few weeks than DJ does in a season.

And when did Hillman become fragile?

Woodyard has more career INT as DJ. He also has one more career INT than DJ has DUI's.

BroncoMan4ever · 10-28-2012, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fwf

Rewatch the game tomorrow fellas and see how few tackles Hillman broke. Hes no Sproiles. Sorry. Our OL was dominant tonight. That's not going to be the case against Houston In January. Our backs are sub par at this point. That's the truth. It's not like we been world beaters on the ground all season. Do you guys forget **** that easy

225 total rushing yards makes you look like a fool. btw, Hillman had 86 rushing yards.

manchambo · 10-28-2012, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by fwf

Koppen and the boys embarrassed the saints defense tonight. A complete beat down was what took place out there. Go back and look how big the gaps were. Your fat sister could have rushed for 75 and a score. What we need is a hybrid of Willis and Hillman. Hillmans speed with mcgahees toughness

The last sentence is perhaps the dumbest, and that's saying something. All we need is the fastest running back in the league who also goes about 230.

What you're describing would easily be the best running back in the league. That would be nice to have, but until we get the next Adrian Peterson, I'm pretty much ok with what we have.

Kaylore · 10-28-2012, 09:58 PM

I love how we lead the division with what will likely be one of the easier, if not easiest schedules in the NFL the rest of the way, and yet somehow we're not contenders, apparently.

theAPAOps5 · 10-28-2012, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by manchambo

The last sentence is perhaps the dumbest, and that's saying something.

this seems befitting. For the entire thread:

DBroncos4life · 10-28-2012, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

I love how we lead the division with what will likely be one of the easier, if not easiest schedules in the NFL the rest of the way, and yet somehow we're not contenders, apparently.

Its only a matter of time till we run into a good O and they expose the LBs from Kentucky.

NFLBRONCO · 10-28-2012, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

I love how we lead the division with what will likely be one of the easier, if not easiest schedules in the NFL the rest of the way, and yet somehow we're not contenders, apparently.

When we can beat NE we are true contenders in AFC. Yes we can give teams problems but, not enough on D to beat NE or Houston on the road YET.

theAPAOps5 · 10-28-2012, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Its only a matter of time till we run into a good O and they expose the LBs from Kentucky.

You know what they say, If you have LBs from Kentucky you really need another RB to be a contender.

sirhcyennek81 · 10-28-2012, 10:13 PM

If only we had a back who had the power of Jim Brown, speed of Gale Sayers, elusiveness of Barry Sanders, vision of TD and the durability of Walter Payton...

How will we ever win without this key component?

...

theAPAOps5 · 10-28-2012, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sirhcyennek81

If only we had a back who had the power of Jim Brown, speed of Gale Sayers, elusiveness of Barry Sanders, vision of TD and the durability of Walter Payton...

How will we ever win without this key component?

...

Totally doable in Madden.

Bacchus · 10-28-2012, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fwf

Hillman is not the answer. At least not this year. Hes too small and fragile at this point. He reminds me a lot of Tatum Bell in the fact that hes quick and elusive but not a tackle breaker. Steven Jackson anyone?

The Kentucky lb's are going to eventually get exposed. We need dj or elway needs to bring someone in.

I'm ready to roll at this point with the rest of our guys but those two positions need to be assessed.

You're 1/2 a brain away from having one.

SonOfLe-loLang · 10-28-2012, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NFLBRONCO

When we can beat NE we are true contenders in AFC.

Contender doesnt necessarily equal BY FAR BEST TEAM IN THE LEAGUE ZOMG. I don't know how you can look at our team right now and think we're not one of the AFC contenders.

sirhcyennek81 · 10-28-2012, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by theAPAOps5

Totally doable in Madden.

Well, since we are asking and stuff.

Bacchus · 10-28-2012, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sirhcyennek81

If only we had a back who had the power of Jim Brown, speed of Gale Sayers, elusiveness of Barry Sanders, vision of TD and the durability of Walter Payton...
..

In other words......Peyton Hillis.

sirhcyennek81 · 10-28-2012, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bacchus

In other words......Peyton Hillis.

He reminds me of Ed McCaffrey.

Rock Chalk · 10-28-2012, 10:20 PM

Hill man had 82 yards on 14 carries.

Yeah, he sucks.

baja · 10-28-2012, 10:24 PM

Just think this time last year we were knee deep in a 100 page Peyton Hillis thread

theAPAOps5 · 10-28-2012, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock Chalk

Hill man had 82 yards on 14 carries.

Yeah, he sucks.

Its the little known LB from Kentucky effect.

Kaylore · 10-28-2012, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock Chalk

Hill man had 82 yards on 14 carries.

Yeah, he sucks.

He said he was fragile. Not that it makes any more sense...

ZONA · 10-28-2012, 10:43 PM

WTF is the poster talking about? Nobody said Hillman is the feature back. Yes, he's too small to be a feature back. He's a change of pace guy and he's really starting to take strides and I love what he did tonight, expect for the fumble. And maybe you didn't notice but McGahee once again piled up tough yards. I hate that he continues to drop the rock as much as the next guy but he's running hard and he's running smart. Alot of times he gets yards when I thought he would be stopped for 1 or 2 and he churns and pushes and next thing you know he's got 4 or 5.

Way too early to be talking contenders, for any team. Injuries can always happen, funny bounces not going your way, all sorts of things. For this team to be 4-3 having played the toughest schedule in the league thus far (and yes, that's a fact), I'll take it. One of the biggest things's I've noticed is that we are definitely cutting back on mental mistakes. Honestly, IMO, those are the reasons we lost at least 2 of the games we did. If we played Atlanta again right now, I like our chances. If we played the Pats in Denver, uh toss up. Same with Houston.

baja · 10-28-2012, 10:45 PM

Not to piss on the b****ing and moaning but...

We have the Number 3 offense and the number 8 defense.

theAPAOps5 · 10-28-2012, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by baja

Not to piss on the b****ing and moaning but...

We have the Number 3 offense and the number 8 defense.

And if you go by ESPN QBR rankings (way more accurate than passer rating if you ask me) the number 1 QB

Rock Chalk · 10-28-2012, 11:02 PM

DVOA says we have the 4th best offense and 6th best defense and that was before tonight's game.

Offensive numbers wont climb as they are opponent adjusted and NO's defense is miserable, but our defensive DVOA should go up.

lonestar · 10-29-2012, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinJames

Hillman is definitely a good change of pace. Our LBs are fine especially when DJ gets back.

Woodyard is having a hell of a year, Danny showed up big in coverage today.

this thread is crazy talk.

What is dj gonna do to improve what we have? Other than backup, if they even keep his dumb ass..

He is not going beat out WW or Von.
He is not smart enough to play Mike. beside Brookings is playing well and called a damned fine game the past few games he has been in.

Danny T looks like a keeper.

So what can he do to improve this team, other than perhaps bring the real LBs water when they come to the sideline.

For the five mil he was suppose to make this year we have Brookings, WW, and DT with change to spare.

Now at the end of the year we will have to find a MIKE for the future but that is not DJ.

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10-28-2012, 09:58 PM	#55
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,011 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	I love how we lead the division with what will likely be one of the easier, if not easiest schedules in the NFL the rest of the way, and yet somehow we're not contenders, apparently.

10-28-2012, 10:13 PM	#60
sirhcyennek81 Yes...swooping is bad... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florence, Colorado Posts: 20,668 Adopt-a-Bronco: All of them.	If only we had a back who had the power of Jim Brown, speed of Gale Sayers, elusiveness of Barry Sanders, vision of TD and the durability of Walter Payton... How will we ever win without this key component? ...

10-28-2012, 10:20 PM	#67
Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,940 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	Hill man had 82 yards on 14 carries. Yeah, he sucks.

10-28-2012, 10:24 PM	#68
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,789 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Just think this time last year we were knee deep in a 100 page Peyton Hillis thread

10-28-2012, 10:43 PM	#71
ZONA Ring of Famer Liquid greatness in every packet Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,363 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	WTF is the poster talking about? Nobody said Hillman is the feature back. Yes, he's too small to be a feature back. He's a change of pace guy and he's really starting to take strides and I love what he did tonight, expect for the fumble. And maybe you didn't notice but McGahee once again piled up tough yards. I hate that he continues to drop the rock as much as the next guy but he's running hard and he's running smart. Alot of times he gets yards when I thought he would be stopped for 1 or 2 and he churns and pushes and next thing you know he's got 4 or 5. Way too early to be talking contenders, for any team. Injuries can always happen, funny bounces not going your way, all sorts of things. For this team to be 4-3 having played the toughest schedule in the league thus far (and yes, that's a fact), I'll take it. One of the biggest things's I've noticed is that we are definitely cutting back on mental mistakes. Honestly, IMO, those are the reasons we lost at least 2 of the games we did. If we played Atlanta again right now, I like our chances. If we played the Pats in Denver, uh toss up. Same with Houston.

10-28-2012, 10:45 PM	#72
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,789 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Not to piss on the b**ing and moaning but... We have the Number 3 offense and the number 8 defense.**

10-28-2012, 11:02 PM	#74
Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,940 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	DVOA says we have the 4th best offense and 6th best defense and that was before tonight's game. Offensive numbers wont climb as they are opponent adjusted and NO's defense is miserable, but our defensive DVOA should go up.