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MagicHef · 10-24-2012, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

...that's counter-intuitive to your point, man.

You complained about media hype for Watt over Matthews and used sacks to reference. Clearly JJ is having the more complete season THUS FAR even though the two are comparable in sacks.

Sooooooooooooo... what are you trying to say?

I'm not complaining, so far JJ absolutely deserves to be in the lead for DPOY. I'm just saying he doesn't really have it locked up yet. If he finishes he season around 15 sacks and Matthews gets 20+, JJ won't get DPOY no matter how good he is against the run.

Tim · 10-24-2012, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

I'm not complaining, so far JJ absolutely deserves to be in the lead for DPOY. I'm just saying he doesn't really have it locked up yet. If he finishes he season around 15 sacks and Matthews gets 20+, JJ won't get DPOY no matter how good he is against the run.

Kind of like Terrell Suggs and Jared Allen last year huh?

Rock Chalk · 10-24-2012, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Flex Gunmetal

Have you even been watching? Watt is making plays everywhere, in every facet. He is unquestioningly outplaying every defensive player in the NFL.

Honestly I cannot believe that we are discussing this.

MagicHef · 10-24-2012, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim

Kind of like Terrell Suggs and Jared Allen last year huh?

Well, you have to be on a good team, too.

MagicHef · 10-24-2012, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rock Chalk

Honestly I cannot believe that we are discussing this.

So you believe that Watt has it locked up? There is literally no chance that anyone else could get DPOY?

Bacchus · 10-24-2012, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

So you believe that Watt has it locked up? There is literally no chance that anyone else could get DPOY?

He could get injured

extralife · 10-24-2012, 11:50 AM

I think Charles Tillman has a real shot at DPOY

TheReverend · 10-24-2012, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by extralife

I think Charles Tillman has a real shot at DPOY

I agree with this. A month ago I was saying he needs to start getting looks for future HoF consideration. Quietly he's put together an amazing career and even with the amazing season he's currently having, no one's really noticing?

Willynowei · 10-24-2012, 12:30 PM

Who is JJ Watt? sounds like a STD ;-)

baja · 10-24-2012, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by extralife

I think Charles Tillman has a real shot at DPOY

He played Megatron straight and played him well. Very impressive.

Stagger Lee · 10-24-2012, 01:14 PM

You guys are all nuts. The smart money is on Joe Mays

broncocalijohn · 10-24-2012, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Stagger Lee

You guys are all nuts. The smart money is on Joe Mays

Dumbass! DPOY doesn't mean Defenseless Player of the Year.

Rock Chalk · 10-24-2012, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

So you believe that Watt has it locked up? There is literally no chance that anyone else could get DPOY?

Barring injury? Yep.

I have seen nothing to give me any reason to doubt Watt is going to taper off. The guy is in a great system and has a great defensive coordinator using him correctly and has a good talent base around him.

Rev mentions Tillman, but unless he records like 15 picks this year, it's probably not going to happen (but Tillman is having a monster season).

snowspot66 · 10-24-2012, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Schism

Damn, that 2011 draft had some talent at the top.

Miller, Peterson, Watt and AJ Green are already among the best players in the NFL at their positions.

Julio Jones, Aldon Smith, Ryan Kerrigan and Robert Quinn have been slam dunk picks for their teams too.

Chiefs and Raiders both picked a great year to not have a high pick!

It will probably go down as one of the best first rounds ever. You go down the list and there are just not many bad players. A lot of great players. You had to try to fail that year.

bronc_fan23 · 10-24-2012, 03:44 PM

This guy's ceiling is so high.

R-Mac · 10-24-2012, 04:02 PM

Watt is the best defensive player in the NFL this season. He is not just the DPOY at this point, he should get votes for MVP.

DENVERDUI55 · 10-24-2012, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

Watt has 9.5, Matthews has 9.

Von and Elvis actually each have more total pressures than Watt, even though they've played one game less.

Stats-wise, it isn't locked up. Media love-wise, maybe.

Watt has forced 3 or 4 ints with tipped balls. He has been the best defender this year.

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10-24-2012, 11:50 AM	#57
extralife Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,917	I think Charles Tillman has a real shot at DPOY

10-24-2012, 12:30 PM	#59
Willynowei Some dude Football is a wonderful thing. Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 2,807 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	Who is JJ Watt? sounds like a STD ;-)

10-24-2012, 01:14 PM	#61
Stagger Lee Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Delaware Posts: 430 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Del Rio	You guys are all nuts. The smart money is on Joe Mays

10-24-2012, 03:44 PM	#65
bronc_fan23 Broncoholic ya, he's our quarterback Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 26 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	This guy's ceiling is so high.

10-24-2012, 04:02 PM	#66
R-Mac Seasoned Veteran Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 254	Watt is the best defensive player in the NFL this season. He is not just the DPOY at this point, he should get votes for MVP.