Romeny's own voting machines in Ohio

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Originally Posted by BowlenBall

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And no candidate or member of a candidate's family should have any financial stake or controlling authority over voter machines and/or their production. This is common sense, and not a left/right, republican/democrat issue. The opportunity for abuse is too great.<<

Can we add "no secretary of state shall serve as campaign chair for his/her party's presidential candidate?" (See Bush 2000 and 2004.)

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Several left-wing news outlets are reporting on a financial relationship between one of Mitt Romney's sons and a voting machine company--with some even implying that the relationship could lead to tampering with votes on Election Day to benefit the Republican. The only problem? There doesn't seem to be any evidence of any financial relationship between Romney's son, Tagg, and the company.

Solamere Capital, an investment fund founded and run by Tagg Romney, is a financial partner with HIG Capital, a private equity firm that manages a whole range of investments. HIG also invests in Hart Intercivic, a polling machine company that operates machines at polling places in Hamilton County, Ohio. But Solamere does not have any financial interest in Hart, a spokesman for Solamere tells THE WEEKLY STANDARD.

Not only does Solamere have no direct or indirect interest in this company [Hart Intercivic], Solamere and its partners have no ownership in this company, nor do they have any ownership in nor have made any investments in the fund that invested in the voting machine company,” the spokesman said.

So while Solamere does partner with HIG on investments, none of those investments involve Hart Intercivic. HIG may be simultaneously managing investments with both companies, but the investments are kept separate, as required by law. Put simply, Tagg Romney is not an “investor in a voting machine company.”

As even the liberal Think Progress points out, some left-wing blogs have floated the idea that Hart’s machines in Ohio might be tampered with to benefit Mitt Romney in the presidential election. But, Think Progress notes, there’s “absolutely no evidence” of any plans to tamper with those machines.

Poof. Again.

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The Weekly Standard?

L0L!

Thanks man - that really made me chuckle.

[Mecklomaniac]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Can we add "no secretary of state shall serve as campaign chair for his/her party's presidential candidate?" (See Bush 2000 and 2004.)

But you are ok with the Soros funded Secretary of State project right?

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[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

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The Weekly Standard?

L0L!

Thanks man - that really made me chuckle.

Beats the Daily Kos and HuffPost combined.

[baja]

Sickening stuff - Where is the outrage America?

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Originally Posted by Mecklomaniac

But you are ok with the Soros funded Secretary of State project right?

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False equivalence.

Not the same thing as putting the sec of state in charge of his/her candidate's campaign.

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Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

Beats the Daily Kos and HuffPost combined.

You're the last person on earth who's qualified to make such assessments.

[barryr]

Originally Posted by Mecklomaniac

But you are ok with the Soros funded Secretary of State project right?

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Am Spectator

Of course he is. Rigging elections is acceptable when democrats benefit.

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Originally Posted by barryr

Of course he is. Rigging elections is acceptable when democrats benefit.

Never mind that this isn't true and his equivalence was false.

(But when did truth and the facts ever matter to the average right-wingnut?)

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Originally Posted by BowlenBall

I am for voter ID laws... but it's ridiculous to only bring up the issue once every four years, and right before an election. Proper, fair, and standard voter ID laws should be implemented with enough lead time to allow citizens to prepare. Anything less is political shenanigans.

And no candidate or member of a candidate's family should have any financial stake or controlling authority over voter machines and/or their production. This is common sense, and not a left/right, republican/democrat issue. The opportunity for abuse is too great.

well that make sense why are you here gtfo we dont need logic and sense here sir

[nyuk nyuk]

Here's a basic problem with scare stories such as this:

Unless the people purchasing those voting machines are stripped of their right to vote, it can be ALWAYS claimed that those machines are being rigged in favor of someone.

In other words, not only is this a non-story but it smells like a pre-election Democratic Party plant in case they lose the election.

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Coming from a supporter of a party whose last president seized power in a judicial coup and through massive, premeditated voter fraud on multiple fronts, this is hilarious!

Oh! The "hanging chads," right?

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Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

Oh! The "hanging chads," right?

Is that how Rush and his ilk reframed the SCOTUS decision for consumption by mental midgets?

BTW, are you familiar with NAACP vs. Harris/ChoicePoint, et al?

Of course you're not.

Take away just that one instance of large-scale GOP voter fraud (the perps admitted guilt) and Gore wins FL handily.

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Voter Registration Fraud Surfaces in Virginia

Last month, Florida prosecutors started examining hundreds of suspicious voter registration forms submitted by a firm, Strategic Allied Consulting, paid by the Republican National Committee. The RNC immediately fired the firm and said the matter was closed. Now, Virginia police have charged a former intern for Rep. Mike Kelly (R-PA), with tossing voter registration forms into a dumpster in Virginia. The Virginia Republican Party stated that this was an isolated problem and not indicative of broader problems.

The problems of voter fraud and voter suppression are uniquely American. Other mature democracies have elections run by nonpartisan officials, with political parties having no role. For example, to eliminate voter fraud, many other countries send each voter a postcard giving the name and number of the voter a week before the election. The voter brings the card to the polling place as proof that he or she is entitled to vote, signs it and exchanges it for a ballot. This simple procedure eliminates all the issues associated with the cost and expense of getting ID cards or the cost and expense of getting birth certificates or other documents needed to get an ID card.

[Bacchus]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Voter Registration Fraud Surfaces in Virginia

The problems of voter fraud and voter suppression are uniquely American. Other mature democracies have elections run by nonpartisan officials, with political parties having no role. For example, to eliminate voter fraud, many other countries send each voter a postcard giving the name and number of the voter a week before the election. The voter brings the card to the polling place as proof that he or she is entitled to vote, signs it and exchanges it for a ballot. This simple procedure eliminates all the issues associated with the cost and expense of getting ID cards or the cost and expense of getting birth certificates or other documents needed to get an ID card.

**** that is too easy. That also would inform the voter if he or she was registered to vote by getting his/her card in the mail. Wow, why can we not do that here?

I guess in Oregon they let people, mail in their ballots.

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Originally Posted by Bacchus

I guess in Oregon they let people, mail in their ballots.

Same here in CA.

I voted last week.

[Mecklomaniac]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Voter Registration Fraud Surfaces in Virginia

Last month, Florida prosecutors started examining hundreds of suspicious voter registration forms submitted by a firm, Strategic Allied Consulting, paid by the Republican National Committee. The RNC immediately fired the firm and said the matter was closed. Now, Virginia police have charged a former intern for Rep. Mike Kelly (R-PA), with tossing voter registration forms into a dumpster in Virginia. The Virginia Republican Party stated that this was an isolated problem and not indicative of broader problems.

Oddly enough, yesterday Rep Jim Moran (democrat) asked the justice department to look into this. Today Jim Moran had to accept the resignation of his son from his campaign for his own voter fraud scandal.

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Originally Posted by Mecklomaniac

Oddly enough, yesterday Rep Jim Moran (democrat) asked the justice department to look into this. Today Jim Moran had to accept the resignation of his son from his campaign for his own voter fraud scandal.

So it was Moran's son who became embroiled in a scandal - not Rep Jim Moran himself.

Thanks for the clarification.

[Mecklomaniac]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

So it was Moran's son who became embroiled in a scandal - not Rep Jim Moran himself.

Thanks for the clarification.

Ahh.. but it is Jim Moran's campaign and his son was part of the campaign. Don't you want to hold Moran to the same standard you want to hold Mike Kelly to?

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Originally Posted by Mecklomaniac

Ahh.. but it is Jim Moran's campaign and his son was part of the campaign. Don't you want to hold Moran to the same standard you want to hold Mike Kelly to?

My point was that you implied there was some sort of hypocrisy on Rep Moran's part when there's no evidence that he knew about his son's activities.

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Congress Members Seek Federal Probe in GOP Voter Registration Fraud Scandal as VA Attorney General Says Office Not Investigating After Arrest

GOP controlled Virginia Board Of Elections refuses to prosecute GOP voter fraud

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Originally Posted by BowlenBall

I am for voter ID laws... but it's ridiculous to only bring up the issue once every four years, and right before an election. Proper, fair, and standard voter ID laws should be implemented with enough lead time to allow citizens to prepare. Anything less is political shenanigans.

And no candidate or member of a candidate's family should have any financial stake or controlling authority over voter machines and/or their production. This is common sense, and not a left/right, republican/democrat issue. The opportunity for abuse is too great.

This.

You see this sorta thing in sports ownership also. You can't have ownership in a team while playing for another team. It's contradictory in nature. The same should DEFINITELY apply to running for office and having part ownership in anything to do with the voting process. That's just flat out wrong. Republicans know this. They just don't want to admit it and then scream voter fraud to change the subject. Yeah, there is some voter fraud out there, it's not just on the Democrat side either. I can admit that. But can any Republican on here admit that what Romney is doing in this regard is wrong. It would be wrong if Obama owned voting machines. Just man up and call it dudes. WTF?