Matt Willis vs Anthony Gonzalez - Page 3 - The Orange Mane

StugotsIII · 10-17-2012, 06:17 PM

Anthony Gonzalez is retired from football...

Gonzalez has moved on from football and has enrolled in the Stanford Graduate School of Business in mid September of 2012.

He was a hell of a WR however was plagued by injuries most of his career.

Rock Chalk · 10-17-2012, 06:56 PM

Completely random but you know who I miss? Sam Brandon.

TE's couldnt do **** against us when we had Sam Brandon.

DBroncos4life · 10-17-2012, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by errand

Manning still throws the ball to McGahee doesn't he?

Are you suggesting Mcgahee isa guy we can bench or make inactive? That's what happens when average players make mistakes like Moreno and possibly Willis.

Bmore Manning · 10-17-2012, 07:28 PM

I really like the idea behind the thread. But.. I will say that Denver needs an explosive play maker on the outside, making DT the #2 and Decker in the slot. Willis is trash, Idc what people on here say. I like how your thinking, improving the team, but your gonna face scrutiny for it..

Bmore Manning · 10-17-2012, 07:33 PM

Dwayne Bowe wants out of KC..

Jetland · 10-18-2012, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by StugotsIII

Anthony Gonzalez is retired from football...

Gonzalez has moved on from football and has enrolled in the Stanford Graduate School of Business in mid September of 2012.

He was a hell of a WR however was plagued by injuries most of his career.

huh....now where did he go to college
hmmmmmmm

Jetmeck · 10-18-2012, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bmore Manning

Dwayne Bowe wants out of KC..

Alligator arms is right where he belongs.

Jetmeck · 10-18-2012, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Are you suggesting Mcgahee isa guy we can bench or make inactive? That's what happens when average players make mistakes like Moreno and possibly Willis.

not many teams have starting quality backups,,,hence they are called backups

Action · 10-18-2012, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bmore Manning

I really like the idea behind the thread. But.. I will say that Denver needs an explosive play maker on the outside, making DT the #2 and Decker in the slot. Willis is trash, Idc what people on here say. I like how your thinking, improving the team, but your gonna face scrutiny for it..

DT a #2 WR?

Do you people think in terms of putting together a pro bowl team?

A 6'3 230 pound WR running a 4.3 as a #2 WR.

Let's not consider the fact that he leads the league in catches over 20 yards. Let's not consider he is the most efficient WR in terms of catches per target. He has 37 targets, LESS than anyone in the TOP 20 WR's in the league in yardage... and he's 6th in yardage!

Let's not forget that this team is improving week to week offensively.

This **** is a joke sometimes on here, people talking about needing a better WR so DT can be #2.

cutthemdown · 10-18-2012, 03:27 AM

After DT, Decker, Stokely, Tamme, Dressen just not much left to go around. Not sure our 4th WR at this point matter much.

Schism · 10-18-2012, 03:55 AM

Thomas and Decker look like a very good starting WR tandem moving forward.

Thomas has looked like a legit number one receiver since day one to be honest. His issue has always been his health, any time he's been on the field and fully healthy he's been great. If he stays healthy he's going to have a great career.

Decker as a number two looks good to me. He's had 11 TD's since the start of last year and a lot of that came playing with Tebow, with whom he didn't have great chemistry. He doesn't have the big play ability of physical gifts that Thomas does, but as a number two guy he's fine.

The issue is that after them we don't really have anyone that I'd feel at all comfortable starting. Stokely is doing well as ever, but he's a pure slot guy. Willis I like as a special teams guy and depth player, but he's limited. Caldwell has been a major disappointment. If Decker or Thomas go down the drop off will be major, need them to stay healthy.

I think WR will be an area we'll look to improve next offseason. There could actually be some great options in FA with Greg Jennings, Dwayne Bowe, Mike Wallace and Wes Welker all possibly hitting the market. I doubt we go after any of them though and I'd rather we spent the money elsewhere, quite honestly. Try and pick up a mid range FA type for depth and then maybe spend a 3rd or 4th round pick on someone who we feel could start down the line.

The only possible target I could see would be Welker. He'd be an amazing weapon for Manning, I have no idea what sort of contract he's going to get though given his age and the fact that he's a slot receiver, albeit a fantastic one. But I'd still like to see us invest a decent draft pick in the position next year.

errand · 10-18-2012, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Are you suggesting Mcgahee isa guy we can bench or make inactive? That's what happens when average players make mistakes like Moreno and possibly Willis.

No....you said Manning targets guys he trusts...and while Willis did screw up, can you honestly say it was as bad as Mcgahee's two gaffes? I say an open man is an open man....Manning will throw to them.

Bmore Manning · 10-18-2012, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Action

DT a #2 WR?

Do you people think in terms of putting together a pro bowl team?

A 6'3 230 pound WR running a 4.3 as a #2 WR.

Let's not consider the fact that he leads the league in catches over 20 yards. Let's not consider he is the most efficient WR in terms of catches per target. He has 37 targets, LESS than anyone in the TOP 20 WR's in the league in yardage... and he's 6th in yardage!

Let's not forget that this team is improving week to week offensively.

This **** is a joke sometimes on here, people talking about needing a better WR so DT can be #2.

Decker belongs in the slot. And what difference does it make as to who is the #1 or #2 WR? If Decker is in the slot and DT is the #2, then that means there must be a really good #1 WR on the team.. But you can flip it to a negative.

DBroncos4life · 10-18-2012, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by errand

No....you said Manning targets guys he trusts...and while Willis did screw up, can you honestly say it was as bad as Mcgahee's two gaffes? I say an open man is an open man....Manning will throw to them.

Dude has to get on the field first. McGahee is our starting RB not some fringe ST player.

broncocalijohn · 10-18-2012, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ludo21

Willis makes one mistake on MNF and everyone goes crazy, the guy is our 4th WR.... not sure we expect a ton out of him, but he will be fine.

But when you get your chance, you don't **** up like that. Worse is he was communicating with Manning and let him know he can trust him. Then he completely does a reversal and gives up a Pick 6. You can't be a 4th receiver with barely any receptions and **** up like that.

Kaylore · 10-18-2012, 09:21 AM

I am ok with brigning in competition at receiver. I do not see how a guy who hasn't played football in two years is supposed to be an upgrade over Willis. DBroncos, why Gonzalez? He's clearly a bust and not NFL calibre. Why do you think we need to sign him specifically? You could have mentioned any number of receivers. Why some bust who is two years rusty? I would take TO over Gonzalez.

DBroncos4life · 10-18-2012, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

I am ok with brigning in competition at receiver. I do not see how a guy who hasn't played football in two years is supposed to be an upgrade over Willis. DBroncos, why Gonzalez? He's clearly a bust and not NFL calibre. Why do you think we need to sign him specifically? You could have mentioned any number of receivers. Why some bust who is two years rusty? I would take TO over Gonzalez.

Well mainly him because he is on the same page as Manning. Look at how well Manning is doing with the old broken down Stokley, who was also hurt a ton. I was looking for chemistry over talent this late in the year is all.

NFLBRONCO · 10-18-2012, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ludo21

not sure this offense needs a 4th WR really, Green may make plays soon enough as he gets up to speed (maybe...)

I think with Manning we do. Manning demands alot more from his WR's then most QB's do. You can't expect all top 3 guys to stay healthy all year.

ludo21 · 10-18-2012, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by NFLBRONCO

I think with Manning we do. Manning demands alot more from his WR's then most QB's do. You can't expect all top 3 guys to stay healthy all year.

I think if Stokes gets hurt Willis would be fine, if DT or Decker get hurt we're probably screwed

broncosteven · 10-18-2012, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown

After DT, Decker, Stokely, Tamme, Dressen just not much left to go around. Not sure our 4th WR at this point matter much.

I remember how we couldn't find a 3rd WR for decades. We spent year after year bringing in Willie Green and Robert Brooks Et all...

I am happy with the corps we have now and hope they all stay healthy. I would like to have Hill back though...

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10-17-2012, 06:17 PM	#51
StugotsIII O-H Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,251 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rahim Moore	Anthony Gonzalez is retired from football... Gonzalez has moved on from football and has enrolled in the Stanford Graduate School of Business in mid September of 2012. He was a hell of a WR however was plagued by injuries most of his career.

10-17-2012, 06:56 PM	#52
Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,940 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	Completely random but you know who I miss? Sam Brandon. TE's couldnt do **** against us when we had Sam Brandon.

10-17-2012, 07:28 PM	#54
Bmore Manning Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 2,725 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I really like the idea behind the thread. But.. I will say that Denver needs an explosive play maker on the outside, making DT the #2 and Decker in the slot. Willis is trash, Idc what people on here say. I like how your thinking, improving the team, but your gonna face scrutiny for it..

10-17-2012, 07:33 PM	#55
Bmore Manning Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 2,725 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Dwayne Bowe wants out of KC..

10-18-2012, 03:27 AM	#60
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,491	After DT, Decker, Stokely, Tamme, Dressen just not much left to go around. Not sure our 4th WR at this point matter much.

10-18-2012, 03:55 AM	#61
Schism Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,920 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Thomas and Decker look like a very good starting WR tandem moving forward. Thomas has looked like a legit number one receiver since day one to be honest. His issue has always been his health, any time he's been on the field and fully healthy he's been great. If he stays healthy he's going to have a great career. Decker as a number two looks good to me. He's had 11 TD's since the start of last year and a lot of that came playing with Tebow, with whom he didn't have great chemistry. He doesn't have the big play ability of physical gifts that Thomas does, but as a number two guy he's fine. The issue is that after them we don't really have anyone that I'd feel at all comfortable starting. Stokely is doing well as ever, but he's a pure slot guy. Willis I like as a special teams guy and depth player, but he's limited. Caldwell has been a major disappointment. If Decker or Thomas go down the drop off will be major, need them to stay healthy. I think WR will be an area we'll look to improve next offseason. There could actually be some great options in FA with Greg Jennings, Dwayne Bowe, Mike Wallace and Wes Welker all possibly hitting the market. I doubt we go after any of them though and I'd rather we spent the money elsewhere, quite honestly. Try and pick up a mid range FA type for depth and then maybe spend a 3rd or 4th round pick on someone who we feel could start down the line. The only possible target I could see would be Welker. He'd be an amazing weapon for Manning, I have no idea what sort of contract he's going to get though given his age and the fact that he's a slot receiver, albeit a fantastic one. But I'd still like to see us invest a decent draft pick in the position next year.

10-18-2012, 09:21 AM	#66
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,061 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	I am ok with brigning in competition at receiver. I do not see how a guy who hasn't played football in two years is supposed to be an upgrade over Willis. DBroncos, why Gonzalez? He's clearly a bust and not NFL calibre. Why do you think we need to sign him specifically? You could have mentioned any number of receivers. Why some bust who is two years rusty? I would take TO over Gonzalez.