Terrible News - The Orange Mane

Lycan · 10-17-2012, 04:04 AM

Despite losing his starting job, Broncos linebacker Joe Mays remains in the team's future plans.

Despite being replaced by veteran Keith Brooking in Monday Night's 35-24 win over the San Diego Chargers, head coach John Fox insists that he and the organization "haven't give up" on the 27-year-old from North Dakota State. Whether the move to Brooking as the starter is permanent remains to be seen, but the team appears confident that Mays will be part of their future, saying they will "evaluate him moving forward."

http://denver.sbnation.com/2012/10/1...-2012-john-fox

Thoughts? Here are mine:

Tim · 10-17-2012, 04:12 AM

Part of the team as a backup, I hope.

go_broncos · 10-17-2012, 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lycan

Despite losing his starting job, Broncos linebacker Joe Mays remains in the team's future plans.

Despite being replaced by veteran Keith Brooking in Monday Night's 35-24 win over the San Diego Chargers, head coach John Fox insists that he and the organization "haven't give up" on the 27-year-old from North Dakota State. Whether the move to Brooking as the starter is permanent remains to be seen, but the team appears confident that Mays will be part of their future, saying they will "evaluate him moving forward."

http://denver.sbnation.com/2012/10/1...-2012-john-fox

Thoughts? Here are mine:

Good thing is they accepted the mistake and didn't start him.
They can evaluate him...but, he is not going to change.

TheReverend · 10-17-2012, 05:03 AM

He can be valuable situationally... we just need the appropriate depth to KEEP him where he's an asset and not a liability... like how Nolan handled Dawkins in 09.

(no, I'm not comparing Mays and Dawkins, calm down. I'm comparing situational impact)

fontaine · 10-17-2012, 05:03 AM

This is one of the reasons why I like John Fox's coaching style.

He's not blaming the guy publicly, he's not promising to start him or bench him permanently, he's just promising to continue to evaluate him.

In other words, "Show me you can play better Joe Mays!"

I'll take that any day over "We're just trying to win a m*******g game!!"

chrisp · 10-17-2012, 05:05 AM

Didn't they say something not-dissimilar about tebow shortly before they traded him?

Bottom line is you don't trash a player untill you have their replacement lined up - you may find you need them whether you like it or not. How many times has ANY team ever said "we're benching him becuase we think he sucks and he really has no future with the team"??

We did invest some dollars in the guy so we may be wanting to try to maintain trade value - not sure what the cap hit is if we cut him in the offseason. Plus I also think the Coaches really were enamoured of his brutal hitting and felt he would be an intimidating presence in the middle of the field. Its become clear however that this can't cover up his inadequacies.

he may have a future in goal-line packages and the like. He does have some value but probably not as a starter anywhere anymore...

2KBack · 10-17-2012, 05:11 AM

Of course he is still part of the plan....Mays has absolute value on the team, he is just limited in what he can do. He isn't a player worth hating, even if he is one you don't want starting.

Lycan · 10-17-2012, 05:29 AM

All I know is I never want to hear the words "Joe Mays in coverage" again.

maher_tyler · 10-17-2012, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisp

Didn't they say something not-dissimilar about tebow shortly before they traded him?

Bottom line is you don't trash a player untill you have their replacement lined up - you may find you need them whether you like it or not. How many times has ANY team ever said "we're benching him becuase we think he sucks and he really has no future with the team"??

We did invest some dollars in the guy so we may be wanting to try to maintain trade value - not sure what the cap hit is if we cut him in the offseason. Plus I also think the Coaches really were enamoured of his brutal hitting and felt he would be an intimidating presence in the middle of the field. Its become clear however that this can't cover up his inadequacies.

he may have a future in goal-line packages and the like. He does have some value but probably not as a starter anywhere anymore...

He should have never started in the first place. He was terrible last year yet we brought in zero. He is good in Special Teams and in a back up roll. Glad they finally realized he isn't as good as they thought he was.

DENVERDUI55 · 10-17-2012, 05:52 AM

He can be part of the teams plans as a ST player and a backup LB.

LRtagger · 10-17-2012, 06:23 AM

Probably should have evaluated how bad he sucked last year before giving him a huge extension

was just about to change my avatar too. Guess I need to leave it up.

Kaylore · 10-17-2012, 06:32 AM

Honestly he missed some special teams tackles. This reads like one of those cursed "votes of confidence" that end up showing the guy cut or fired a few weeks later. I'm not sayin Mays is getting cut, but "he's in our plans" and "will be evaluated going forward" doesn't mean he's going to play again anytime soon.

Dr. Broncenstein · 10-17-2012, 06:37 AM

Man I was worried that Moreno was going to be activated when I saw the headline. That had me going...

spdirty · 10-17-2012, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaylore

Honestly he missed some special teams tackles. This reads like one of those cursed "votes of confidence" that end up showing the guy cut or fired a few weeks later. I'm not sayin Mays is getting cut, but "he's in our plans" and "will be evaluated going forward" doesn't mean he's going to play again anytime soon.

He really did miss ST tackles? Oh goodness, I only rewatched/enjoyed the 2nd half and never paid attention to Mays.

go_broncos · 10-17-2012, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Broncenstein

Man I was worried that Moreno was going to be activated when I saw the headline. That had me going...

Moreno should play against chiefs.
he plays well against them.

Dr. Broncenstein · 10-17-2012, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by go_broncos

Moreno should play against chiefs.
he plays well against them.

I like your deadpan humor.

go_broncos · 10-17-2012, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Broncenstein

I like your deadpan humor.

These are his stats against KC:

ATT Yards
------ ------
21 86
14 50
22 106
23 161
4 52 -- He was hurt and couldn't complete the game

bronco militia · 10-17-2012, 07:02 AM

I don't know what the big deal is. This is still the same Joe Mays that missed tackles in 2010 and 2011. Unfortunately, his replacement isn't on the Broncos roster.....yet.

Nwp-Apap · 10-17-2012, 07:02 AM

One piece.. Great stuff, but the manga is better

Dr. Broncenstein · 10-17-2012, 07:09 AM

Joe Mays is like a scud missile. Designed to blow things up from a distance using a guidence system based upon random chance.

Broncos_OTM · 10-17-2012, 07:23 AM

there is no plan b

Smiling Assassin27 · 10-17-2012, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim

Part of the team as a backup, I hope.

Can he return kicks?

WolfpackGuy · 10-17-2012, 07:43 AM

Coincidence the defense's two best performances came when he wasn't a part of it?

gunns · 10-17-2012, 07:45 AM

Don't EVER put terrible news as the subject headline. I thought someone was hurt. Blood pressure pill time.

razorwire77 · 10-17-2012, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheReverend

He can be valuable situationally... we just need the appropriate depth to KEEP him where he's an asset and not a liability... like how Nolan handled Dawkins in 09.

(no, I'm not comparing Mays and Dawkins, calm down. I'm comparing situational impact)

Absolutely he remains valuable situationally. Good teams have situational players like Joe Mays on their teams. They just don't use them on the 45-yard-line as two or three down Mikes He's useful Firing the A gap on 4th and Goal, thumping people on special teams etc.

10-17-2012, 04:04 AM	#1
Lycan Omelette Dreamer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bloaty's Pizza Hog Posts: 2,080	Terrible News Despite losing his starting job, Broncos linebacker Joe Mays remains in the team's future plans. Despite being replaced by veteran Keith Brooking in Monday Night's 35-24 win over the San Diego Chargers, head coach John Fox insists that he and the organization "haven't give up" on the 27-year-old from North Dakota State. Whether the move to Brooking as the starter is permanent remains to be seen, but the team appears confident that Mays will be part of their future, saying they will "evaluate him moving forward." http://denver.sbnation.com/2012/10/1...-2012-john-fox Thoughts? Here are mine:

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Lycan Omelette Dreamer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bloaty's Pizza Hog Posts: 2,080	All I know is I never want to hear the words "Joe Mays in coverage" again. Last edited by Lycan; 10-17-2012 at 05:58 AM..

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10-17-2012, 04:12 AM	#2
Tim First round bye Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,069 Adopt-a-Bronco: DRC	Part of the team as a backup, I hope.

10-17-2012, 05:03 AM	#4
TheReverend www.PatrickTurley.org ^ buy this... twice Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 33,010 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mike Shanahan	He can be valuable situationally... we just need the appropriate depth to KEEP him where he's an asset and not a liability... like how Nolan handled Dawkins in 09. (no, I'm not comparing Mays and Dawkins, calm down. I'm comparing situational impact)

10-17-2012, 05:03 AM	#5
fontaine Ring of Famer Go John Manning! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,428	This is one of the reasons why I like John Fox's coaching style. He's not blaming the guy publicly, he's not promising to start him or bench him permanently, he's just promising to continue to evaluate him. In other words, "Show me you can play better Joe Mays!" I'll take that any day over "We're just trying to win a m*******g game!!"

10-17-2012, 05:05 AM	#6
chrisp Friend of the unsung Not into the football......yet Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: London UK Posts: 1,300 Adopt-a-Bronco: Danny Trevathan	Didn't they say something not-dissimilar about tebow shortly before they traded him? Bottom line is you don't trash a player untill you have their replacement lined up - you may find you need them whether you like it or not. How many times has ANY team ever said "we're benching him becuase we think he sucks and he really has no future with the team"?? We did invest some dollars in the guy so we may be wanting to try to maintain trade value - not sure what the cap hit is if we cut him in the offseason. Plus I also think the Coaches really were enamoured of his brutal hitting and felt he would be an intimidating presence in the middle of the field. Its become clear however that this can't cover up his inadequacies. he may have a future in goal-line packages and the like. He does have some value but probably not as a starter anywhere anymore...

10-17-2012, 05:11 AM	#7
2KBack Rumblin' Bumblin' Cake is delicious Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wash DC Posts: 7,275	Of course he is still part of the plan....Mays has absolute value on the team, he is just limited in what he can do. He isn't a player worth hating, even if he is one you don't want starting.

10-17-2012, 05:52 AM	#10
DENVERDUI55 Drunk on Arrival! New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,168 Adopt-a-Bronco: Montee Ball	He can be part of the teams plans as a ST player and a backup LB.

10-17-2012, 06:23 AM	#11
LRtagger Ring of Famer CUT THAT MEAT Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,258 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Probably should have evaluated how bad he sucked last year before giving him a huge extension was just about to change my avatar too. Guess I need to leave it up.

10-17-2012, 06:32 AM	#12
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,050 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	Honestly he missed some special teams tackles. This reads like one of those cursed "votes of confidence" that end up showing the guy cut or fired a few weeks later. I'm not sayin Mays is getting cut, but "he's in our plans" and "will be evaluated going forward" doesn't mean he's going to play again anytime soon.

10-17-2012, 06:37 AM	#13
Dr. Broncenstein Overdriven Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sterile Fields Posts: 11,619 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Woodyard	Man I was worried that Moreno was going to be activated when I saw the headline. That had me going...

10-17-2012, 07:02 AM	#18
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,590	I don't know what the big deal is. This is still the same Joe Mays that missed tackles in 2010 and 2011. Unfortunately, his replacement isn't on the Broncos roster.....yet.

10-17-2012, 07:02 AM	#19
Nwp-Apap Solid Starter New to the Forum Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 186 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	One piece.. Great stuff, but the manga is better

10-17-2012, 07:09 AM	#20
Dr. Broncenstein Overdriven Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sterile Fields Posts: 11,619 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Woodyard	Joe Mays is like a scud missile. Designed to blow things up from a distance using a guidence system based upon random chance.

10-17-2012, 07:23 AM	#21
Broncos_OTM Born Again HOOLIGAN Broncos Over All Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,542 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	there is no plan b

10-17-2012, 07:43 AM	#23
WolfpackGuy Call me, "Maybe" Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Delaware Posts: 5,675	Coincidence the defense's two best performances came when he wasn't a part of it?

10-17-2012, 07:45 AM	#24
gunns I WANT DEFENSE! Defense, defense, defense Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Always Hoping Posts: 11,658 Adopt-a-Bronco: Defense	Don't EVER put terrible news as the subject headline. I thought someone was hurt. Blood pressure pill time.