Coach Fox defends Trindon Holliday he will definitely get another shot to be the return man. - The Orange Mane

KevinJames · 10-16-2012, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Broncos Press Conference

Asked on Monday "Is Trindon Holliday going to get another shot?"

He responded "Oh yeah! In defense of him we could of done a better job of vicing the gunner in that situation and their guy pushed our guy into him a little bit that's why it wasn't a foul so its not all his fault."

Personally I am glad to hear this, I know having him muff his first punt as a Bronco sucks but he was definitely bumped into while looking up to try and make the fair catch so like Fox said its not all his fault. People were killing him last night, so I thought I would post Fox's response.

Denver needs a guy like this and I really hope going forward he can field the ball cleanly and give us great field position in the process because we are missing a guy of that caliber. Its an added bonus that he can break it for a TD at any given moment too.

Im a Bolden fan as well his return in the pre-season was nice but he takes a bit to get to top speed and I would like to see Holliday get both PR/KR duties one time to see what he can do with it. Overall as long as he doesn't become a liability in the kicking game he will be just another weapon for this team.

Dexter · 10-16-2012, 11:13 PM

I'm glad. I hate to see someone lose their job over one mistake.

menonite · 10-16-2012, 11:36 PM

Hopefully the Sloth can give him some pointers on how to catch the freaking ball.

ol#7 · 10-16-2012, 11:51 PM

Disagree. There was no contact. He got spooked with the defender right there and muffed it.

The guy is too small to do anything else on the field, what is the upside of having him on the roster? Slow ass Leonhard can at least come in and play on the D (and do a respectable job at that).

Bacchus · 10-16-2012, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinJames

Personally I am glad to hear this, I know having him muff his first punt as a Bronco sucks but he was definitely bumped into while looking up to try and make the fair catch so like Fox said its not all his fault. People were killing him last night, so I thought I would post Fox's response.

Denver needs a guy like this and I really hope going forward he can field the ball cleanly and give us great field position in the process because we are missing a guy of that caliber. Its an added bonus that he can break it for a TD at any given moment too.

Im a Bolden fan as well his return in the pre-season was nice but he takes a bit to get to top speed and I would like to see Holliday get both PR/KR duties one time to see what he can do with it. Overall as long as he doesn't become a liability in the kicking game he will be just another weapon for this team.

Holliday also failed to field two other punts letting them roll losing another 15 yards in field position. He has to step up his game.

Atwater His Ass · 10-17-2012, 12:01 AM

He wasn't ran into at all. He just muffed it.

My patience is getting short however for this team IRT turnovers. Something like 9 lost fumbles already this season. Unacceptable.

Lycan · 10-17-2012, 12:04 AM

He made a mistake, but I'm willing to overlook of it based on his potential.

3 returns for TDs in pre-season and elite speed buys him a few trys IMO.

ol#7 · 10-17-2012, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Lycan

He made a mistake, but I'm willing to overlook of it based on his potential.

3 returns for TDs in pre-season and elite speed buys him a few trys IMO.

Everything he did was in the Pre-Season. He didnt show the Texans anything once the games actually mattered, and he was going against guys who actually made the team.

He better show something in a hurry.

Doggcow · 10-17-2012, 01:50 AM

Anyone else think Peyton Manning and our Defense saved Trindon Holliday's Career?

Drunk Monkey · 10-17-2012, 01:50 AM

I was just as pissed as everyone else but he should get another chance. Especially when you look at what is behind him.

Agamemnon · 10-17-2012, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ol#7

Everything he did was in the Pre-Season. He didnt show the Texans anything once the games actually mattered, and he was going against guys who actually made the team.

He better show something in a hurry.

Three TD returns in four preseason games is still remarkable and points to some real potential. With how atrocious our return game has been for years, I'm willing to give the guy a second chance.

long beach bronco · 10-17-2012, 06:37 AM

I watched that play where he muffed the punt in slow motion very closely several times, and upon further review, there should have been a flag thrown for interference on the play. Before the season is over, this kid is going to return a couple of touchdowns for us, I believe that.

baja · 10-17-2012, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinJames

Personally I am glad to hear this, I know having him muff his first punt as a Bronco sucks but he was definitely bumped into while looking up to try and make the fair catch so like Fox said its not all his fault. People were killing him last night, so I thought I would post Fox's response.

Denver needs a guy like this and I really hope going forward he can field the ball cleanly and give us great field position in the process because we are missing a guy of that caliber. Its an added bonus that he can break it for a TD at any given moment too.

Im a Bolden fan as well his return in the pre-season was nice but he takes a bit to get to top speed and I would like to see Holliday get both PR/KR duties one time to see what he can do with it. Overall as long as he doesn't become a liability in the kicking game he will be just another weapon for this team.

That's the way it is around here. People react in the extreme. If we were all on the Queen Mary and every time we all had an opinion shift we had to run to the other side of the ship the back and forth motion would roll her over.

Drunken.Broncoholic · 10-17-2012, 07:43 AM

Their guy pushed our guy into him? Is Fox even watching the same game? The charger player was in his bubble. Not a bronco. And it was catchable. At the high school and college level it's excusable. In the pros that should be caught. Again every once in a while fox reminds us he went 1-15. It was THEIR guy not ours.

Bacchus · 10-17-2012, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Agamemnon

Three TD returns in four preseason games is still remarkable and points to some real potential. With how atrocious our return game has been for years, I'm willing to give the guy a second chance.

I was in a colts forum reading about the game and a Texnas fan predicted Holiday would fumble before he fielded the punt. He said he does that a lot.

razorwire77 · 10-17-2012, 10:27 AM

PR guys put the ball on the ground from time to time. Now if this becomes a repeat issue, then yeah, end the experiment. The timing sucked, being it was his very first attempt, but it's not like he severely misjudged the punt and tried to catch it over his head or it hit his chest and bounced to the ground with 10 yards of running room. It wasn't a fumble due to a blatantly stupid decision. There was a slight muff brought about by borderline illegal kick catch interference. Should he have caught the ball? Yeah, but I agree that you give him another chance.

Lestat · 10-17-2012, 10:32 AM

eh, i can live with an occasional mistake if he can rip off some good returns and break a few to the house. not interested in seeing 7.5 yards be all we can get on a return.

menonite · 10-17-2012, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Bacchus

I was in a colts forum reading about the game and a Texnas fan predicted Holiday would fumble before he fielded the punt. He said he does that a lot.

Looking at his NFL.com stats page, it says he had only fumbled once before the Chargers game.

Rabb · 10-17-2012, 10:42 AM

obviously it will take a few games to see the benefit here, but if we keep giving the other team a chance in our territory like that, I would take the slow guy that catches it every day of the week

Rohirrim · 10-17-2012, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by baja

That's the way it is around here. People react in the extreme. If we were all on the Queen Mary and every time we all had an opinion shift we had to run to the other side of the ship the back and forth motion would roll her over.

Fox is doing the right thing here. Not only is he giving the guy another shot, but he's pumping up his confidence, which is something you really need to have in that KR/PR position.

Crushaholic · 10-17-2012, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Doggcow

Anyone else think Peyton Manning and our Defense saved Trindon Holliday's Career?

Absolutely. Giving up 10 points, with a short San Diego field, was about as good as the defense could do...

bowtown · 10-17-2012, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic

Their guy pushed our guy into him? Is Fox even watching the same game? The charger player was in his bubble. Not a bronco. And it was catchable. At the high school and college level it's excusable. In the pros that should be caught. Again every once in a while fox reminds us he went 1-15. It was THEIR guy not ours.

Yeah, coaches trying to stand up for their guys publicly always deal exclusively in facts and throw guys under the bus.

rbackfactory80 · 10-17-2012, 01:10 PM

Omg. Coach defends player.

DENVERDUI55 · 11-15-2012, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ol#7

Disagree. There was no contact. He got spooked with the defender right there and muffed it.

The guy is too small to do anything else on the field, what is the upside of having him on the roster? Slow ass Leonhard can at least come in and play on the D (and do a respectable job at that).

Quote:

Originally Posted by ol#7

Everything he did was in the Pre-Season. He didnt show the Texans anything once the games actually mattered, and he was going against guys who actually made the team.

He better show something in a hurry.

Let's thank the lord this guy isn't in charge of our ST.

baja · 11-15-2012, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55

Let's thank the lord this guy isn't in charge of our ST.

or Houston.

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10-16-2012, 11:13 PM	#2
Dexter Pro Bowler Bay Harbor Butcher Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 616 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I'm glad. I hate to see someone lose their job over one mistake.

10-16-2012, 11:36 PM	#3
menonite Pro Bowler New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 535 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Hopefully the Sloth can give him some pointers on how to catch the freaking ball.

10-16-2012, 11:51 PM	#4
ol#7 Perennial Pro-bowler M&M Connection Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 914	Disagree. There was no contact. He got spooked with the defender right there and muffed it. The guy is too small to do anything else on the field, what is the upside of having him on the roster? Slow ass Leonhard can at least come in and play on the D (and do a respectable job at that).

10-17-2012, 12:01 AM	#6
Atwater His Ass Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,362 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	He wasn't ran into at all. He just muffed it. My patience is getting short however for this team IRT turnovers. Something like 9 lost fumbles already this season. Unacceptable.

10-17-2012, 12:04 AM	#7
Lycan Omelette Dreamer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bloaty's Pizza Hog Posts: 2,080	He made a mistake, but I'm willing to overlook of it based on his potential. 3 returns for TDs in pre-season and elite speed buys him a few trys IMO.

10-17-2012, 01:50 AM	#9
Doggcow Rebel Laughs At Unbelievers Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 8,302 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Anyone else think Peyton Manning and our Defense saved Trindon Holliday's Career?

10-17-2012, 01:50 AM	#10
Drunk Monkey Mars b****es!!! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,593	I was just as pissed as everyone else but he should get another chance. Especially when you look at what is behind him.

10-17-2012, 06:37 AM	#12
long beach bronco Registered User "I'm your Huckleberry" Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Long Beach Posts: 1,017 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	I watched that play where he muffed the punt in slow motion very closely several times, and upon further review, there should have been a flag thrown for interference on the play. Before the season is over, this kid is going to return a couple of touchdowns for us, I believe that.

10-17-2012, 07:43 AM	#14
Drunken.Broncoholic Steppin on feet Pickled in Orange and Blue Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Carmel Ca Posts: 6,260 Adopt-a-Bronco: LeLo Lang	Their guy pushed our guy into him? Is Fox even watching the same game? The charger player was in his bubble. Not a bronco. And it was catchable. At the high school and college level it's excusable. In the pros that should be caught. Again every once in a while fox reminds us he went 1-15. It was THEIR guy not ours.

10-17-2012, 10:27 AM	#16
razorwire77 Tapenade Swagga Splotchy Headed Assassin Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 3,265 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mario Fannin	PR guys put the ball on the ground from time to time. Now if this becomes a repeat issue, then yeah, end the experiment. The timing sucked, being it was his very first attempt, but it's not like he severely misjudged the punt and tried to catch it over his head or it hit his chest and bounced to the ground with 10 yards of running room. It wasn't a fumble due to a blatantly stupid decision. There was a slight muff brought about by borderline illegal kick catch interference. Should he have caught the ball? Yeah, but I agree that you give him another chance.

10-17-2012, 10:32 AM	#17
Lestat Oreo Lucian Rockefeller The New Age Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 5,168	eh, i can live with an occasional mistake if he can rip off some good returns and break a few to the house. not interested in seeing 7.5 yards be all we can get on a return.

10-17-2012, 10:42 AM	#19
Rabb Zombie Slayer Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 5,258 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	obviously it will take a few games to see the benefit here, but if we keep giving the other team a chance in our territory like that, I would take the slow guy that catches it every day of the week

10-17-2012, 01:10 PM	#23
rbackfactory80 Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New York Posts: 4,614	Omg. Coach defends player.