Rate The AFC - The Orange Mane

Bacchus · 10-16-2012, 01:13 PM

1. New England
2. Houston
3. Denver
4. Baltimore
5. Pittsburgh
6. Miami
7. Jets
8. San Diego
9. Buffalo
10. Cinncinnati
11 Tennessee
12. Kansas City
13. Jacksonville
14. Cleveland
15. Indianapolis
16. Oakland

I think that is all of them.

I believe the Pats are the best team in the AFC until they are eliminated in the Playoffs.
Houston is not playoff tested and they just lost their best LB. I believe by the end of the season Denver will be better than the Texans.
The Ravens' defense is horrible and getting worse.
Pittsburgh is old on defense and their running game is not good.
I think KC will turn it around. They are suffering from the same thing Denver has been. Too many turnovers. If they can control that they will win some games.
You cannot tell me Oakland is not the worst team in the division. Palmer is a horrible QB their WRS are raw, running game innuetral and their defense is beat up.

After the first 5 teams their is certainly a huge drop off.

gyldenlove · 10-16-2012, 01:24 PM

1. Baltimore - I know they have some serious injuries on defense, but I want to see them suck before I drop them
2. Houston - They got assraped by Green Bay, but they are still a good team
3. New England - Nobody wins in Seattle, you age 2 years just on the flight there
4. Denver - We beat every other team that could possibly be in this spot
5. Pittsburgh - A good team with a lot of injuries in defense, the offense is not explosive enough to make up for their defensive problems
6. Cincinnati - A very balanced team that lacks top coaching to be among the true elite
7. San Diego - Say what you want about Rivers, but he is not going to cough up the ball 6 times every game - unlike Vick and Cassel
8. Miami - I am not sure how Tannehill is doing this, but he has made Miami a somewhat relevant team
9. Buffalo - Just hope you catch them on a day when Spiller and Jackson decide to suck
10. Indianapolis - This team is talented but very much rebuilding
11. Jets - The 2nd worst QB situation in the conference
12. Jacksonville - Not sure where this team is going (well aside from London)
13. Cleveland - This may be too low, Cleveland is not a bad team they just keep finding ways to lose games
14. Oakland - This is a bad team in a dysfunctional situation with a stadium full of convicts pretending to be fans
15. Tennessee - They are so bad they secretly want Vince Young back
16. Kansas City - The worst QB situation in the league, they would need to desecrate the graves of Johnny and Bob and practice some necromancy to bring back any form of Cash or Hope to Arrowhead

MagicHef · 10-16-2012, 01:28 PM

Did you see OAK vs ATL? Oakland is better than KC, at the very least.

Br0nc0Buster · 10-16-2012, 01:33 PM

Kansas City has never held a lead in the regular season so far this year
They are getting blown the hell out in their games, not just simply losing

KC looks like the worst team in the league
I really think both Indy and Cleveland are better

Jax is pretty bad, prolly the only team you could say might be on KC's suck level

canadianbroncosfan · 10-16-2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bacchus

1. New England
2. Houston
3. Denver
4. Baltimore
5. Pittsburgh
6. Miami
7. Jets
8. San Diego
9. Buffalo
9. Cinncinnati
10 Tennessee
11. Cleveland
12. Kansas City
13. Jacksonville
14. Cleveland
15. Indianapolis
16. Oakland

I think that is all of them.

I believe the Pats are the best team in the AFC until they are eliminated in the Playoffs.
Houston is not playoff tested and they just lost their best LB. I believe by the end of the season Denver will be better than the Texans.
The Ravens' defense is horrible and getting worse.
Pittsburgh is old on defense and their running game is not good.
I think KC will turn it around. They are suffering from the same thing Denver has been. Too many turnovers. If they can control that they will win some games.
You cannot tell me Oakland is not the worst team in the division. Palmer is a horrible QB their WRS are raw, running game innuetral and their defense is beat up.

After the first 5 teams their is certainly a huge drop off.

Right now, we aren't better than the Ravens. We'll see how much that changes in the coming weeks. There is no way KC is better than Oakland, they're probably the worst team in the league. And I think Indy is WAY to low, even after losing to the Sanchez lead Jets.

Jekyll15Hyde · 10-16-2012, 01:44 PM

Indy beat GB and you have them at 15?

Bacchus · 10-16-2012, 02:01 PM

Cassell for KC has been a turnover machine, Fumbles, ints just horrible. They take him out put Quinn in and he throws two bad ints.

KC looks horrible but I believe if they put Cassell back in and he stops turning the ball over they will be a better team. Maybe not but that is my feeling. Maybe they ar enot good enough NOT to turn the ball over. If that is the case and they keep turning the ball over all year then they are the worst team in the AFC. If they clean up the turnovers I believe they can be much better than worst.

The Raiders played ATl tough, but I think it is a mirage. They'll lose to KC and SD

Bacchus · 10-16-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jekyll15Hyde

Indy beat GB and you have them at 15?

Then they got destroyed by the Jets. Indi can beat any team in the NFl at home in the dome. What can they do on the road?

TheReverend · 10-16-2012, 02:06 PM

1. Houston
2. Baltimore
3. New England
4. Denver
5. Pittsburgh
6. Cinncinnati
7. Jets
8. San Diego
9. Miami
10. Buffalo
11. Indianapolis
12. Tennessee
13. Oakland
14. Kansas City
15. Cleveland
16. Jacksonville

UberBroncoMan · 10-16-2012, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bacchus

1. New England
2. Houston
3. Denver
4. Baltimore
5. Pittsburgh
6. Miami
7. Jets
8. San Diego
9. Buffalo
9. Cinncinnati
10 Tennessee
11. Cleveland
12. Kansas City
13. Jacksonville
14. Cleveland
15. Indianapolis
16. Oakland

I think that is all of them.

I believe the Pats are the best team in the AFC until they are eliminated in the Playoffs.
Houston is not playoff tested and they just lost their best LB. I believe by the end of the season Denver will be better than the Texans.
The Ravens' defense is horrible and getting worse.
Pittsburgh is old on defense and their running game is not good.
I think KC will turn it around. They are suffering from the same thing Denver has been. Too many turnovers. If they can control that they will win some games.
You cannot tell me Oakland is not the worst team in the division. Palmer is a horrible QB their WRS are raw, running game innuetral and their defense is beat up.

After the first 5 teams their is certainly a huge drop off.

Balt 4th?

Miami 6th?

Two in 9th?

Cleavland twice?

Bacchus · 10-16-2012, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by UberBroncoMan

Balt 4th?

Miami 6th?

Two in 9th?

Cleavland twice?

Thanks I had two # 9's

Miaim could be anywhere from 6 to 12. I like how they are playing. I guess probably more on potential than anything.

Jekyll15Hyde · 10-16-2012, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bacchus

Then they got destroyed by the Jets. Indi can beat any team in the NFl at home in the dome. What can they do on the road?

I am not saying they are top 10 or anything but there is more than 1 team worse than them. The ranks of 10-11 is about right I'd say

NFLBRONCO · 10-16-2012, 02:29 PM

Denver is too high as much as I loved last night.

Kaylore · 10-16-2012, 02:35 PM

1. Houston - you are your record. Still most complete team.
2. New England - Flawed but you just KNOW they'll be there in the end.
3. Baltimore - If not for the injuries they are number 2. I think they are banged up.
4. Denver - When you consider the potential of our defense, Prater's leg and Manning and the offense, we are top 5 in the conference for sure.
5. Buffalo - I like them because they can score and on their good days, can beat anyone.
6. Jets - They are a couple of receivers and a healthy Revis away from being a good team.
7. Pittsburgh - They had a season like this before and then pulled it together at thee end for the first of a few SB trips.
8. Miami - A Physical, underrated team. I don't think they have enough playmakers, but they are playing solid.
9. Cinncinati - For all their issues, they play people close and have some good talent on their team.
10. San Diego - Really similar to the Bengals to me, but they feel like they are on the verge of implosion.
11. Tennessee - They're not that good but they're not that bad. A really scrappy team.
12. Cleveland. A tough defense and subborn running game gives their not-so-toung QB something to grow into.
13. Indianapolis - Luck is going to struggle some weeks and look great the next. I still don't think they win more than six games this year.
14. Oakland - Palmer has quietly had a half decent year. It will take them a couple years to rebuild from Al Davis' fail.
15. Kansas City - A team that is playing below their talent, has no QB and an idiot coach. At least Charles is still balling.
16. Jacksonville - Literally an awful, terrible, crappy, barf of a team.

Crushaholic · 10-16-2012, 02:44 PM

Kansas City has not played with a lead, in regulation, through 6 games. If they aren't dead last, they are certainly in the bottom 2. Oakland isn't that bad. We were just able to handle McFadden, making them LOOK bad...

Crushaholic · 10-16-2012, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NFLBRONCO

Denver is too high as much as I loved last night.

^^^This^^^

It LOOKS like they are starting to get on the same page, but I would hold off on calling them a Top 5 AFC team...

Kaylore · 10-16-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Crushaholic

^^^This^^^

It LOOKS like they are starting to get on the same page, but I would hold off on calling them a Top 5 AFC team...

Who is better? Cincinatti, who lost to the Browns? The Jets? Miami? Buffalo?

You guys don't realize how crappy the AFC is right now...

NFLBRONCO · 10-16-2012, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaylore

Who is better? Cincinatti, who lost to the Browns? The Jets? Miami? Buffalo?

You guys don't realize how crappy the AFC is right now...

maybe

Do you think Denver is good enough to win last night without two D turnover's down 24 pts? I don't D isn't good enough yet.

The 3rd best team in AFC plays more then 1 or 2 qtr's and don't get down by 10-20 + pts game after game.

canadianbroncosfan · 10-16-2012, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NFLBRONCO

maybe

Do you think Denver is good enough to win last night without two D turnover's down 24 pts? I don't D isn't good enough yet.

The 3rd best team in AFC plays more then 1 or 2 qtr's and don't get down by 10-20 + pts game after game.

Maybe not, but if we're going to play 'hindsight' we also don't lose if we don't muff two punts in the red zone followed by a pick six. Either we use both teams turnovers or neither however either way I think we win.

Bacchus · 10-16-2012, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

1. Houston - you are your record. Still most complete team.
2. New England - Flawed but you just KNOW they'll be there in the end.
3. Baltimore - If not for the injuries they are number 2. I think they are banged up.
4. Denver - When you consider the potential of our defense, Prater's leg and Manning and the offense, we are top 5 in the conference for sure.

#1. Houston: You are your record, and then you have the 3-3 Pats in second over the 5-1 Ravens?

Bacchus · 10-16-2012, 05:45 PM

Seeing Jacksonville doing so badly they should have traded Pocket Hercules to Denver!!

rbackfactory80 · 10-16-2012, 05:54 PM

baja · 10-16-2012, 06:57 PM

Where would you guys have Denver if Rivers hadn't imploded for six turnovers and beat Denver?

Epimetheus · 10-16-2012, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by baja

Where would you guys have Denver if Rivers hadn't imploded for six turnovers and beat Denver?

You don't think that massive defensive effort and people making plays had anything to do with that?

Bacchus · 10-16-2012, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Nolls

You don't think that massive defensive effort and people making plays had anything to do with that?

I agree, I have been saying this defense will perform much better the rest of the season and they responded just killing Rivers. VonDoom was very impressive. Also the young talent in the secondary made plays.

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10-16-2012, 01:13 PM	#1
Bacchus I'm buying Natasha Romanoff Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 5,203 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Rate The AFC 1. New England 2. Houston 3. Denver 4. Baltimore 5. Pittsburgh 6. Miami 7. Jets 8. San Diego 9. Buffalo 10. Cinncinnati 11 Tennessee 12. Kansas City 13. Jacksonville 14. Cleveland 15. Indianapolis 16. Oakland I think that is all of them. I believe the Pats are the best team in the AFC until they are eliminated in the Playoffs. Houston is not playoff tested and they just lost their best LB. I believe by the end of the season Denver will be better than the Texans. The Ravens' defense is horrible and getting worse. Pittsburgh is old on defense and their running game is not good. I think KC will turn it around. They are suffering from the same thing Denver has been. Too many turnovers. If they can control that they will win some games. You cannot tell me Oakland is not the worst team in the division. Palmer is a horrible QB their WRS are raw, running game innuetral and their defense is beat up. After the first 5 teams their is certainly a huge drop off. Last edited by Bacchus; 10-16-2012 at 02:11 PM..

10-16-2012, 01:24 PM	#2
gyldenlove Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London, ON Posts: 10,026 Adopt-a-Bronco: Spencer Larsen	1. Baltimore - I know they have some serious injuries on defense, but I want to see them suck before I drop them 2. Houston - They got assraped by Green Bay, but they are still a good team 3. New England - Nobody wins in Seattle, you age 2 years just on the flight there 4. Denver - We beat every other team that could possibly be in this spot 5. Pittsburgh - A good team with a lot of injuries in defense, the offense is not explosive enough to make up for their defensive problems 6. Cincinnati - A very balanced team that lacks top coaching to be among the true elite 7. San Diego - Say what you want about Rivers, but he is not going to cough up the ball 6 times every game - unlike Vick and Cassel 8. Miami - I am not sure how Tannehill is doing this, but he has made Miami a somewhat relevant team 9. Buffalo - Just hope you catch them on a day when Spiller and Jackson decide to suck 10. Indianapolis - This team is talented but very much rebuilding 11. Jets - The 2nd worst QB situation in the conference 12. Jacksonville - Not sure where this team is going (well aside from London) 13. Cleveland - This may be too low, Cleveland is not a bad team they just keep finding ways to lose games 14. Oakland - This is a bad team in a dysfunctional situation with a stadium full of convicts pretending to be fans 15. Tennessee - They are so bad they secretly want Vince Young back 16. Kansas City - The worst QB situation in the league, they would need to desecrate the graves of Johnny and Bob and practice some necromancy to bring back any form of Cash or Hope to Arrowhead

10-16-2012, 01:28 PM	#3
MagicHef Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,430 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Did you see OAK vs ATL? Oakland is better than KC, at the very least.

10-16-2012, 01:33 PM	#4
Br0nc0Buster 2012 AFC West Champs stiff arming through the playoffs Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 4,432	Kansas City has never held a lead in the regular season so far this year They are getting blown the hell out in their games, not just simply losing KC looks like the worst team in the league I really think both Indy and Cleveland are better Jax is pretty bad, prolly the only team you could say might be on KC's suck level

10-16-2012, 01:44 PM	#6
Jekyll15Hyde Anti Frown Cannon & McD.. Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,240	Indy beat GB and you have them at 15?

10-16-2012, 02:01 PM	#7
Bacchus I'm buying Natasha Romanoff Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 5,203 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Cassell for KC has been a turnover machine, Fumbles, ints just horrible. They take him out put Quinn in and he throws two bad ints. KC looks horrible but I believe if they put Cassell back in and he stops turning the ball over they will be a better team. Maybe not but that is my feeling. Maybe they ar enot good enough NOT to turn the ball over. If that is the case and they keep turning the ball over all year then they are the worst team in the AFC. If they clean up the turnovers I believe they can be much better than worst. The Raiders played ATl tough, but I think it is a mirage. They'll lose to KC and SD

10-16-2012, 02:06 PM	#9
TheReverend www.PatrickTurley.org ^ buy this... twice Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 32,987 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mike Shanahan	1. Houston 2. Baltimore 3. New England 4. Denver 5. Pittsburgh 6. Cinncinnati 7. Jets 8. San Diego 9. Miami 10. Buffalo 11. Indianapolis 12. Tennessee 13. Oakland 14. Kansas City 15. Cleveland 16. Jacksonville

10-16-2012, 02:29 PM	#13
NFLBRONCO Ring of Famer Go Nuggets Go Lakers Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lafayette Colorado Posts: 7,385	Denver is too high as much as I loved last night.

10-16-2012, 02:35 PM	#14
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,037 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	1. Houston - you are your record. Still most complete team. 2. New England - Flawed but you just KNOW they'll be there in the end. 3. Baltimore - If not for the injuries they are number 2. I think they are banged up. 4. Denver - When you consider the potential of our defense, Prater's leg and Manning and the offense, we are top 5 in the conference for sure. 5. Buffalo - I like them because they can score and on their good days, can beat anyone. 6. Jets - They are a couple of receivers and a healthy Revis away from being a good team. 7. Pittsburgh - They had a season like this before and then pulled it together at thee end for the first of a few SB trips. 8. Miami - A Physical, underrated team. I don't think they have enough playmakers, but they are playing solid. 9. Cinncinati - For all their issues, they play people close and have some good talent on their team. 10. San Diego - Really similar to the Bengals to me, but they feel like they are on the verge of implosion. 11. Tennessee - They're not that good but they're not that bad. A really scrappy team. 12. Cleveland. A tough defense and subborn running game gives their not-so-toung QB something to grow into. 13. Indianapolis - Luck is going to struggle some weeks and look great the next. I still don't think they win more than six games this year. 14. Oakland - Palmer has quietly had a half decent year. It will take them a couple years to rebuild from Al Davis' fail. 15. Kansas City - A team that is playing below their talent, has no QB and an idiot coach. At least Charles is still balling. 16. Jacksonville - Literally an awful, terrible, crappy, barf of a team.

10-16-2012, 02:44 PM	#15
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,043	Kansas City has not played with a lead, in regulation, through 6 games. If they aren't dead last, they are certainly in the bottom 2. Oakland isn't that bad. We were just able to handle McFadden, making them LOOK bad...

10-16-2012, 05:45 PM	#21
Bacchus I'm buying Natasha Romanoff Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 5,203 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Seeing Jacksonville doing so badly they should have traded Pocket Hercules to Denver!!

10-16-2012, 06:57 PM	#23
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,869 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Where would you guys have Denver if Rivers hadn't imploded for six turnovers and beat Denver?