Mcgahee looked slow and sluggish out there - The Orange Mane

fwf · 10-16-2012, 09:08 AM

I thought atleast- compared to the first few weeks when he looked great. Maybe he's nursing something that we dont know about. I know the OL wasnt helping him out much as far as making lanes, but I still wasnt seeing any burst from out him.
Maybe its time to get Moreno back in the mix and give the guy one last try. Or hopefully if Willis is hurt this by week will make it right.

Chris · 10-16-2012, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by fwf

Maybe its time to get Moreno back in the mix and give the guy one last try.

bronco militia · 10-16-2012, 09:14 AM

I thought he looked great in the 2nd half

Drunken.Broncoholic · 10-16-2012, 09:17 AM

I see the entire offense being slow on those run plays. I don't know if they are slow developing by design or not, but the blockers and Willis just look like they are playing in mud on some of those plays.

Kaylore · 10-16-2012, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by fwf

I thought atleast- compared to the first few weeks when he looked great. Maybe he's nursing something that we dont know about. I know the OL wasnt helping him out much as far as making lanes, but I still wasnt seeing any burst from out him.
Maybe its time to get Moreno back in the mix and give the guy one last try.

bronco militia · 10-16-2012, 09:25 AM

he had 10 carries for 51 yards in the 2nd half...

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201210...yze=playbyplay

fwf · 10-16-2012, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco militia

he had 10 carries for 51 yards in the 2nd half...

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201210...yze=playbyplay

i just thought the burst and shiftiness was lacking. from what my eyes saw. if no one else thinks so, then fine, maybe it was just me.. i did have a few banquets.

yerner · 10-16-2012, 09:36 AM

i agree. he should be a number 2 back. unfortunately they don't have anyone better right now.

2KBack · 10-16-2012, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by fwf

i just thought the burst and shiftiness was lacking. from what my eyes saw. if no one else thinks so, then fine, maybe it was just me.. i did have a few banquets.

My wife and I commented on it, he did seem like he was running in Mud a bit in the first half. Willis won't last forever, I suspect he may start slowing down later this season. I think we will need to Draft another back.

I'm on record really liking Cameron Marshall from ASU, and with their new offense and crowded backfield, I think he will slip from lack of production this season.

I am also still interested in getting Moreno back on the field...he is still more useful than Ball IMO. Hillman seems to be working into the game though, so it may not be necessary.

doonwise · 10-16-2012, 09:40 AM

We need a running back to effectively spell him or we won't have his services later in the season. Where did Knowshon get off to anyway? Haven't heard anything about the guy for weeks. Hillman is still so tentative. Wish we had another 215-220lb running back to give McGahee a break.

swaiy · 10-16-2012, 09:44 AM

Hillman is the 3rd down back now. I think they are starting to trust him more but he still has things to work on. Im just glad to see when Willis comes out, Hillman comes in.

DENVERDUI55 · 10-16-2012, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by fwf

I thought atleast- compared to the first few weeks when he looked great. Maybe he's nursing something that we dont know about. I know the OL wasnt helping him out much as far as making lanes, but I still wasnt seeing any burst from out him.
Maybe its time to get Moreno back in the mix and give the guy one last try. Or hopefully if Willis is hurt this by week will make it right.

Moreno back

. He is the #4 RB that is always inactive.

gyldenlove · 10-16-2012, 09:51 AM

The offensive line played like **** in the 1st half, on too many runs Willis had to evade contact in the backfield in the first half. In the 2nd half when they went more power less stretch in the run game he did better.

I believe we will see Hillman get worked in to the offense more during the bye week, I think he really suffered from being out early and missing out on install work.

2KBack · 10-16-2012, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55

Moreno back

. He is the #4 RB that is always inactive.

Meh, he started the season as #2 and was deactivated after a fumble.

If we did that to every Bronco who fumbled this season we wouldn't be able to field a complete team.

Drunken.Broncoholic · 10-16-2012, 10:01 AM

What's disappointing to see is not so much if he's looking slow or not, but the checking himself out on several drives. Gruden made a comment about this and I've seen it in several games. Drive starts at the 20, Mcgahee runs a few plays. Drive gets to about mid field and its almost automatic he waves to the sideline for relief. Even after like 2 or 3 carries.

That One Guy · 10-16-2012, 10:05 AM

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Meh, he started the season as #2 and was deactivated after a fumble.

If we did that to every Bronco who fumbled this season we wouldn't be able to field a complete team.

Yeah, THAT is the only reason why he was pulled. A single fumble.

2KBack · 10-16-2012, 10:19 AM

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Yeah, THAT is the only reason why he was pulled. A single fumble.

We don't have a lot of evidence otherwise. That was the last carry he had. Why even give him that carry if you planned on never letting him touch the ball again. Or was it because the other 2 whole carries he got that game were ineffective?

Moreno is obviously in the doghouse for one reason or another that we can't see, but as for on the field....he's still better than Ball.

CEH · 10-16-2012, 10:28 AM

I've heard Moerno's practice work ethic leaves alot to be desired. It's just not about his fumble. Really only reason he's here right now is Hillman was injured during TC

Baba Booey · 10-16-2012, 10:31 AM

I agree; he looked slow as hell when he was carrying two and three defenders at a time across the first down markers.

2KBack · 10-16-2012, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CEH

I've heard Moerno's practice work ethic leaves alot to be desired. It's just not about his fumble. Really only reason he's here right now is Hillman was injured during TC

weak....annoying as hell when an athlete sleeps away the opportunity to play professional sports.

DENVERDUI55 · 10-16-2012, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 2KBack

Meh, he started the season as #2 and was deactivated after a fumble.

If we did that to every Bronco who fumbled this season we wouldn't be able to field a complete team.

Doesn't matter where you start the season because right now he is the #4. He was given the opportunity and ran the ball into the back of the OL, missed pass protection assignments and sealed his fate with the fumble. He is was he is a fringe roster player who doesn't suit up on gameday.

2KBack · 10-16-2012, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DENVERDUI55

Doesn't matter where you start the season because right now he is the #4. He was given the opportunity and ran the ball into the back of the OL, missed pass protection assignments and sealed his fate with the fumble. He is was he is a fringe roster player who doesn't suit up on gameday.

To be completely accurate, he obviously WAS NOT....though he may be now.

I maintain that it has more to do with something in practice or behind the scenes though, as he has still shown more than a scrub like Ball.

Houshyamama · 10-16-2012, 10:42 AM

Hillman is quicker to the hole and better in space. McGahee gets more yards after contact. If they continue to attempt to run the ball down the opponents throat, McGahee makes sense. I really want to see Hillman out there for a quick draw on second down though.

Garcia Bronco · 10-16-2012, 10:54 AM

He's not getting spelled enough, but Hillman is coming along...did you see those blocks last night? Awesome stuff. His day is coming.

Swedish Extrovert · 10-16-2012, 10:57 AM

I thought the Chargers dline played well at th point of attack agains the run. McGhee ran hard even though he was getting stuffed.

10-16-2012, 09:08 AM	#1
fwf Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 478 Adopt-a-Bronco: Zane Beadles	Mcgahee looked slow and sluggish out there I thought atleast- compared to the first few weeks when he looked great. Maybe he's nursing something that we dont know about. I know the OL wasnt helping him out much as far as making lanes, but I still wasnt seeing any burst from out him. Maybe its time to get Moreno back in the mix and give the guy one last try. Or hopefully if Willis is hurt this by week will make it right.

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10-16-2012, 09:14 AM	#3
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,568	I thought he looked great in the 2nd half

10-16-2012, 09:17 AM	#4
Drunken.Broncoholic Steppin on feet Pickled in Orange and Blue Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Carmel Ca Posts: 6,200 Adopt-a-Bronco: LeLo Lang	I see the entire offense being slow on those run plays. I don't know if they are slow developing by design or not, but the blockers and Willis just look like they are playing in mud on some of those plays.

10-16-2012, 09:25 AM	#6
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,568	he had 10 carries for 51 yards in the 2nd half... http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201210...yze=playbyplay

10-16-2012, 09:36 AM	#8
yerner Ring of Famer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Charlottesville VA Posts: 3,304	i agree. he should be a number 2 back. unfortunately they don't have anyone better right now.

10-16-2012, 09:40 AM	#10
doonwise Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 458	We need a running back to effectively spell him or we won't have his services later in the season. Where did Knowshon get off to anyway? Haven't heard anything about the guy for weeks. Hillman is still so tentative. Wish we had another 215-220lb running back to give McGahee a break.

10-16-2012, 09:44 AM	#11
swaiy Ring of Famer Next time I'll be deadly serious Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 1,332 Adopt-a-Bronco: DT88	Hillman is the 3rd down back now. I think they are starting to trust him more but he still has things to work on. Im just glad to see when Willis comes out, Hillman comes in.

10-16-2012, 09:51 AM	#13
gyldenlove Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London, ON Posts: 10,015 Adopt-a-Bronco: Spencer Larsen	The offensive line played like **** in the 1st half, on too many runs Willis had to evade contact in the backfield in the first half. In the 2nd half when they went more power less stretch in the run game he did better. I believe we will see Hillman get worked in to the offense more during the bye week, I think he really suffered from being out early and missing out on install work.

10-16-2012, 10:01 AM	#15
Drunken.Broncoholic Steppin on feet Pickled in Orange and Blue Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Carmel Ca Posts: 6,200 Adopt-a-Bronco: LeLo Lang	What's disappointing to see is not so much if he's looking slow or not, but the checking himself out on several drives. Gruden made a comment about this and I've seen it in several games. Drive starts at the 20, Mcgahee runs a few plays. Drive gets to about mid field and its almost automatic he waves to the sideline for relief. Even after like 2 or 3 carries.

10-16-2012, 10:28 AM	#18
CEH Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,209	I've heard Moerno's practice work ethic leaves alot to be desired. It's just not about his fumble. Really only reason he's here right now is Hillman was injured during TC

10-16-2012, 10:31 AM	#19
Baba Booey twitter.com/ds_perry HURRY HURRY! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,039 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	I agree; he looked slow as hell when he was carrying two and three defenders at a time across the first down markers.

10-16-2012, 10:42 AM	#23
Houshyamama I Make The Weather Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,853 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brock Osweiler	Hillman is quicker to the hole and better in space. McGahee gets more yards after contact. If they continue to attempt to run the ball down the opponents throat, McGahee makes sense. I really want to see Hillman out there for a quick draw on second down though.

10-16-2012, 10:54 AM	#24
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,987 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	He's not getting spelled enough, but Hillman is coming along...did you see those blocks last night? Awesome stuff. His day is coming.

10-16-2012, 10:57 AM	#25
Swedish Extrovert President of the Universe Formerly known as mightysmurf Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Highlands Ranch Posts: 14,933 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joel Dreesen	I thought the Chargers dline played well at th point of attack agains the run. McGhee ran hard even though he was getting stuffed.