Which Broncos QB records will fall? - The Orange Mane

BroncoDoug · 10-11-2012, 03:14 PM

I was bored at work today at was just thinking about Bronco football as I always seem to do. I started to look at some stats from this year and it got me to thinking which Bronco franchise records Manning could possibly break this year?

After a little research it is in my opinion that he could break them all!

Here is a little breakdown of some of our records, along with Elway's best season (just because I can)

Broncos team record

Quarterback Rating:.....92.8 Elway in '93
Passing Yards:.....4526 Cutler in '08
Passing TD's:.....27 Elway in '97, Plummer in '04
Completion %:.....66.7% Griese in '02 (only 13 games)
63.6% Cutler in '07 (all 16 games)
Total Completions:.....384 Cutler in '08
Total Attempts:.....616 Cutler in '08

Elway's best's

Quarterback Rating:.....92.8 '93
Passing Yards:.....4030 '93
Passing TD's:.....27 '97
Completion %:.....63.2% '93
Total Completions:.....348 '93
Total Attempts:.....605 '85

Manning is having a great year by a lot of peoples standards, but even I was suprised when looking at his projections for the rest of the year.

Manning's Projected 2012 stats

Quarterback Rating:.....101.0
Passing Yards:.....4797
Passing TD's:.....35
Completion %:.....66%
Total Completions:.....416
Total Attempts:.....630

So if Manning continues on with how he is doing he will break and shatter pretty much every season record for the Broncos. I know the NFL is a completely different game then in the 80's and 90's. So I was just wondering what all your thoughts on Manning potentially setting new standards for quarterbacking in Denver.

(apologize for any formatting mistakes, doing this on my phone and its a lot harder then I thought)

Hercules Rockefeller · 10-11-2012, 03:23 PM

The obvious one is going to be Passing TDs. For a franchise that had Elway, I still can't believe that only 27 is the high.

dictionary · 10-11-2012, 03:23 PM

I dont think anyone here with the exception of americanbronc fan, or whatever the f*** his name is, would really be surprised. Manning is in the conversation for GOAT.

BroncoDoug · 10-11-2012, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

The obvious one is going to be Passing TDs. For a franchise that had Elway, I still can't believe that only 27 is the high.

That is very surprising, it seems every year for the last couple of years at least 8 or so pass for more TD then that. Crazy how the NFL has changed in the last 13 years since Elway left the game.

Another surprise was Elway only had one 4,000 yd passing season.

Manning has only had 2 seasons where he HASN'T passed for over 4,000 yds.

Atwater His Ass · 10-11-2012, 03:30 PM

The records don't actually mean too much to me. Elway was greater than what his numbers were and was strapped with a Dan Reeves run run pass punt offense for years and in a league that didn't baby the players near as much.

I don't really care what Manning's numbers end up here, as long as he's able to win games. He's going to get his numbers regardless, I just hope it has a meaning behind it.

Jay3 · 10-11-2012, 03:33 PM

He'll break every one of those records, except possibly completion percentage and passing yards.

errand · 10-11-2012, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

The obvious one is going to be Passing TDs. For a franchise that had Elway, I still can't believe that only 27 is the high.

27 TD passes is high when you consider our RB also had 15 himself. I doubt McGahee scores 15 TD's rushing this season.

Jay3 · 10-11-2012, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by errand

27 TD passes is high when you consider our RB also had 15 himself. I doubt McGahee scores 15 TD's rushing this season.

Still seems low, all things considered, including Cutler. Jake Delhomme has thrown for 29.

SouthStndJunkie · 10-11-2012, 05:02 PM

I expect Peyton Manning to pretty much break all but a few of those records this season.

Especially if the defense keeps giving up 35 first downs and rolling over on 3rd down conversions.

If Denver has to play from behind, Peyton Manning will obliterate most of those passing records.

I'd love to see him post awesome franchise breaking numbers....but not at the expense of abandoning the running game while trying to play catch up in the 2nd half of games.

I'd rather see Peyton Manning throw for 280 yards and have the team consistently gain over 100+ yards on the ground.

Denver's offense is at it's dangerous best when the passing game sets up the running game and leaves teams off balance.

TheReverend · 10-11-2012, 05:42 PM

Cool thread. Seriously, lots of interesting info to reflect on

broncosteven · 10-11-2012, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

The obvious one is going to be Passing TDs. For a franchise that had Elway, I still can't believe that only 27 is the high.

Elway never had the # of attempts Marino had let a lone PM.

Elway's teams were balanced an ran the ball a ton more even when we didn't have good RB's.

Elway owns PM in rushing TD's though with 33 total over his career to 17!

WOOOOOO HOOOO!

extralife · 10-11-2012, 09:49 PM

I doubt we'll throw the ball 630 times, but every one of those records is in play. I think he gets TDs and QB rating, and falls just short of the others.

BroncoDoug · 10-12-2012, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Atwater His Ass

The records don't actually mean too much to me. Elway was greater than what his numbers were and was strapped with a Dan Reeves run run pass punt offense for years and in a league that didn't baby the players near as much.

I don't really care what Manning's numbers end up here, as long as he's able to win games. He's going to get his numbers regardless, I just hope it has a meaning behind it.

This is along the lines of my thinking as well. It was such a different time when Elway arrived here compared to now. Its not really a debate on who is better, its just amazing to actually see the differences with these numbers. Nothing can replace what Elway meant to this franchise when he first arrived, and his overall game and swagger are something that you just don't see much with any of the quarterbacks that come into the league.

Manning is going to get his numbers, you're right. But they won't mean anything if he and the rest of the Broncos can't beat the teams that matter to get to the ultimate goal. If anyone is going to break the franchises records in this day in age, who better than Manning though? Fun times!

BroncoDoug · 10-26-2012, 12:16 PM

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Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning is on pace to throw for a career-high 4,821 passing yards. He’s on pace to throw 37 touchdown passes, which would be the second-best of his career, and both his completion rate (67.8 percent) and his passer rating (105.0) would be the second-best for his career. He’s on pace to throw 11 interceptions, which would be his lowest total since 2006. So does that mean he’s all the way back after having multiple neck surgeries and missing all of last season?

After a year off with a new team and not 100%, this could end up being Mannings 2nd best season of his carrer, maybe even the overall best. I'm excited to see him and the team continue to get better every week!

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...eck-surgeries/

Ray Finkle · 10-26-2012, 12:21 PM

the only one I care about is Super Bowls won by a starting QB....

DomCasual · 10-26-2012, 12:48 PM

The only ones I care about other ones with the name Cutler by them. I hope he takes all of those.

cmhargrove · 10-26-2012, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atwater His Ass

The records don't actually mean too much to me. Elway was greater than what his numbers were and was strapped with a Dan Reeves run run pass punt offense for years and in a league that didn't baby the players near as much.

I don't really care what Manning's numbers end up here, as long as he's able to win games. He's going to get his numbers regardless, I just hope it has a meaning behind it.

Don't forget that the main reason that Manning is here to challenge Elway, is once again because of Elway. Even though he's not "in the game," he's still in the game...

Score for Elway.

BroncoDoug · 10-26-2012, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DomCasual

The only ones I care about other ones with the name Cutler by them. I hope he takes all of those.

Haha, I feel the same way

Bacchus · 10-27-2012, 02:06 AM

ALL OF THEM WILL FALL!!!

BroncoDoug · 10-30-2012, 06:45 AM

Quick update after the NO game. Manning is on pace for 402 completions on 587 attempts for a 68.5%. 4830 yds. And 39 TD passes!! That would break the previous record by 12! Let's hope they just keep winning and win the whole dang thing this year!

DENVERDUI55 · 10-30-2012, 07:02 AM

I'm going to guess they all fall as previous posters mentioned. Sure is nice he is on our side and not torching our D anymore.

Agamemnon · 10-30-2012, 07:24 AM

It's also worth noting that he is having one the best seasons of his career at this point. With the easier opposition going forward and the continued improvement of the offense overall, this may well be his 2nd best season ever (I don't think there's much chance of him surpassing 2004).

SonOfLe-loLang · 10-30-2012, 08:15 AM

didn't Griese's shortened season feature the highest QB rating?

DENVERDUI55 · 10-30-2012, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

didn't Griese's shortened season feature the highest QB rating?

Yeah PM will smash that.

Steve Sewell · 10-30-2012, 09:42 AM

Until he carries teams to 5 AFC Championship and 2 Super Bowl titles, breaking antiquated regular season records will mean nothing in comparing to the greatness that is John Elway. Manning has a long way to go...he is a great regular season QB but several of his contemporaries (including his brother) have outdone him in the playoffs and championship categories.

As far as championships are concerned, Elway's only real peer was Joe Montana, and Joe's team was loaded with all-time type players. In the AFC, Elway was up against the likes of Dan Marino, Warren Moon, Jim Kelly, etc. and still outdid all of them in the Championships department during his career.

I love me some Manning though...and I've got a special feeling that this team is going to win a couple of trophies before he hangs em up.

10-11-2012, 03:14 PM	#1
BroncoDoug Ring of Famer R.I.P. D-Will and D-Nash Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Moline, IL Posts: 2,767 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Which Broncos QB records will fall? I was bored at work today at was just thinking about Bronco football as I always seem to do. I started to look at some stats from this year and it got me to thinking which Bronco franchise records Manning could possibly break this year? After a little research it is in my opinion that he could break them all! Here is a little breakdown of some of our records, along with Elway's best season (just because I can) Broncos team record Quarterback Rating:.....92.8 Elway in '93 Passing Yards:.....4526 Cutler in '08 Passing TD's:.....27 Elway in '97, Plummer in '04 Completion %:.....66.7% Griese in '02 (only 13 games) 63.6% Cutler in '07 (all 16 games) Total Completions:.....384 Cutler in '08 Total Attempts:.....616 Cutler in '08 Elway's best's Quarterback Rating:.....92.8 '93 Passing Yards:.....4030 '93 Passing TD's:.....27 '97 Completion %:.....63.2% '93 Total Completions:.....348 '93 Total Attempts:.....605 '85 Manning is having a great year by a lot of peoples standards, but even I was suprised when looking at his projections for the rest of the year. Manning's Projected 2012 stats Quarterback Rating:.....101.0 Passing Yards:.....4797 Passing TD's:.....35 Completion %:.....66% Total Completions:.....416 Total Attempts:.....630 So if Manning continues on with how he is doing he will break and shatter pretty much every season record for the Broncos. I know the NFL is a completely different game then in the 80's and 90's. So I was just wondering what all your thoughts on Manning potentially setting new standards for quarterbacking in Denver. (apologize for any formatting mistakes, doing this on my phone and its a lot harder then I thought)

10-11-2012, 05:02 PM	#9
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 15,258	I expect Peyton Manning to pretty much break all but a few of those records this season. Especially if the defense keeps giving up 35 first downs and rolling over on 3rd down conversions. If Denver has to play from behind, Peyton Manning will obliterate most of those passing records. I'd love to see him post awesome franchise breaking numbers....but not at the expense of abandoning the running game while trying to play catch up in the 2nd half of games. I'd rather see Peyton Manning throw for 280 yards and have the team consistently gain over 100+ yards on the ground. Denver's offense is at it's dangerous best when the passing game sets up the running game and leaves teams off balance. Last edited by SouthStndJunkie; 10-11-2012 at 05:04 PM..

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10-11-2012, 03:23 PM	#2
Hercules Rockefeller Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 16,005 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	The obvious one is going to be Passing TDs. For a franchise that had Elway, I still can't believe that only 27 is the high.

10-11-2012, 03:23 PM	#3
dictionary Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 339 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rahim Moore	I dont think anyone here with the exception of americanbronc fan, or whatever the f*** his name is, would really be surprised. Manning is in the conversation for GOAT.

10-11-2012, 03:30 PM	#5
Atwater His Ass Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,362 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	The records don't actually mean too much to me. Elway was greater than what his numbers were and was strapped with a Dan Reeves run run pass punt offense for years and in a league that didn't baby the players near as much. I don't really care what Manning's numbers end up here, as long as he's able to win games. He's going to get his numbers regardless, I just hope it has a meaning behind it.

10-11-2012, 03:33 PM	#6
Jay3 Sad Elway Ah . . . no. Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,367 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	He'll break every one of those records, except possibly completion percentage and passing yards.

10-11-2012, 05:42 PM	#10
TheReverend www.PatrickTurley.org ^ buy this... twice Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 33,018 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mike Shanahan	Cool thread. Seriously, lots of interesting info to reflect on

10-11-2012, 09:49 PM	#12
extralife Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,905	I doubt we'll throw the ball 630 times, but every one of those records is in play. I think he gets TDs and QB rating, and falls just short of the others.

10-26-2012, 12:21 PM	#15
Ray Finkle DOOONNNTTTTT CAAARRREEE! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 7,411	the only one I care about is Super Bowls won by a starting QB....

10-26-2012, 12:48 PM	#16
DomCasual The Dude abides. Shameless Homer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cocytus Posts: 13,173 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gus Frerotte	The only ones I care about other ones with the name Cutler by them. I hope he takes all of those.

10-27-2012, 02:06 AM	#19
Bacchus I'm buying Natasha Romanoff Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 5,221 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	ALL OF THEM WILL FALL!!!

10-30-2012, 06:45 AM	#20
BroncoDoug Ring of Famer R.I.P. D-Will and D-Nash Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Moline, IL Posts: 2,767 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Quick update after the NO game. Manning is on pace for 402 completions on 587 attempts for a 68.5%. 4830 yds. And 39 TD passes!! That would break the previous record by 12! Let's hope they just keep winning and win the whole dang thing this year!

10-30-2012, 07:02 AM	#21
DENVERDUI55 Drunk on Arrival! New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,176 Adopt-a-Bronco: Montee Ball	I'm going to guess they all fall as previous posters mentioned. Sure is nice he is on our side and not torching our D anymore.

10-30-2012, 07:24 AM	#22
Agamemnon Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 10,443 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	It's also worth noting that he is having one the best seasons of his career at this point. With the easier opposition going forward and the continued improvement of the offense overall, this may well be his 2nd best season ever (I don't think there's much chance of him surpassing 2004).

10-30-2012, 08:15 AM	#23
SonOfLe-loLang Young Buck Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 13,228 Adopt-a-Bronco: Thunder (RIP)	didn't Griese's shortened season feature the highest QB rating?

10-30-2012, 09:42 AM	#25
Steve Sewell Oh Tyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!! Patrick and Ty's pimp Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 4,666 Adopt-a-Bronco: Reggie Rivers	Until he carries teams to 5 AFC Championship and 2 Super Bowl titles, breaking antiquated regular season records will mean nothing in comparing to the greatness that is John Elway. Manning has a long way to go...he is a great regular season QB but several of his contemporaries (including his brother) have outdone him in the playoffs and championship categories. As far as championships are concerned, Elway's only real peer was Joe Montana, and Joe's team was loaded with all-time type players. In the AFC, Elway was up against the likes of Dan Marino, Warren Moon, Jim Kelly, etc. and still outdid all of them in the Championships department during his career. I love me some Manning though...and I've got a special feeling that this team is going to win a couple of trophies before he hangs em up.