But.... I thought Tebow was the problem.

[LongDongJohnson]

Tebow was a problem. And Manning fixed that problem.

But that's only 1 position fixed. Although it's the most important position, we still have other important areas that need improvement.

[houghtam]

Originally Posted by KO5K

They're on pace to go 7-9.

Doubt he'll be going anywhere when Manning puts up that record.

Actually if Manning puts up that record (or any record resulting in a worse finish than last season) I'm gone from pro football entirely until Bowlen no longer owns the team. Can't find the post, but I still believe what I said then. There is only so much money and attention I can allow myself to waste on an owner who keeps making the same mistake every 2 years for the last 14, going on 16.

The bet DBag must have been referring to (I have the DBag on ignore) is that Tebow will start more games over the next two years than Manning, as I was unconvinced that Manning had fully healed from his neck injury and that with our line he wouldn't survive long anyway. Still not very convinced, given what I've seen.

Anyway, that just means I'll have to find another place to talk about politics, MSU and the Detroit Tigers.

[DBroncos4life]

Originally Posted by houghtam

Actually if Manning puts up that record (or any record resulting in a worse finish than last season) I'm gone from pro football entirely until Bowlen no longer owns the team. Can't find the post, but I still believe what I said then. There is only so much money and attention I can allow myself to waste on an owner who keeps making the same mistake every 2 years for the last 14, going on 16.

The bet DBag must have been referring to (I have the DBag on ignore) is that Tebow will start more games over the next two years than Manning, as I was unconvinced that Manning had fully healed from his neck injury and that with our line he wouldn't survive long anyway. Still not very convinced, given what I've seen.

Anyway, that just means I'll have to find another place to talk about politics, MSU and the Detroit Tigers.

That and you thought Denver wouldn't be a top 10 O and Manning isn't a top 5 passing QB in the NFL. ****ing dumbass

[DBroncos4life]

Still not convinced Manning is healed and our OL is better with Manning then it was with Tebow. Good thing my bet didn't include the CFL starts Tebow will have.

[RaiderH8r]

Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

no you made the case for Saturday picking the Packers over Denver for money. Denver didn't want Saturday that is why he didn't end up with the Broncos. You claimed signing Saturday was a huge selling point for Manning and that wasn't the case at all. The influx is the 5 starters playing we signed after Manning.

We didn't want Saturday so bad we flew him out to tell him to **** off.

Elway: Hey Jeff, why don't you fly on out to Denver so we can visit.
Saturday: Can do.

Elway: Welcome to Denver Jeff.
Saturday: Glad to be here.
Elway: Glad to have you. We wanted to bring you out here to let you know we don't want you to play for this club. You're not Bronco material. Now **** off. MUA HA HA HA HA

I'm claiming that if ever there were a FA Manning could land it would have been Jeff Saturday.

[Drunken.Broncoholic]

Originally Posted by RaiderH8r

We didn't want Saturday so bad we flew him out to tell him to **** off.

Elway: Hey Jeff, why don't you fly on out to Denver so we can visit.
Saturday: Can do.

Elway: Welcome to Denver Jeff.
Saturday: Glad to be here.
Elway: Glad to have you. We wanted to bring you out here to let you know we don't want you to play for this club. You're not Bronco material. Now **** off. MUA HA HA HA HA

I'm claiming that if ever there were a FA Manning could land it would have been Jeff Saturday.

Jeff's own words explained "the broncos didnt want me" he said he didn't feel the love from the broncos like GB. In GB he's the first choice. In Denver he said they wanted a different direction being first choice.

Has nothing to do with Manning has to do with Saturday not wanting to sit behind Walton.

http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/bron...y-lard-3-25-12

[DBroncos4life]

Originally Posted by RaiderH8r

We didn't want Saturday so bad we flew him out to tell him to **** off.

Elway: Hey Jeff, why don't you fly on out to Denver so we can visit.
Saturday: Can do.

Elway: Welcome to Denver Jeff.
Saturday: Glad to be here.
Elway: Glad to have you. We wanted to bring you out here to let you know we don't want you to play for this club. You're not Bronco material. Now **** off. MUA HA HA HA HA

I'm claiming that if ever there were a FA Manning could land it would have been Jeff Saturday.

Elway: We would like to come in and help Walton and be a back up
Saturday: No thanks John I think I still can start and play
Elway: OK Jeff thanks for your time

Manning: How did the meeting go Jeff?
Saturday: Well Peyton the Broncos want me more as a mentor and a back up for Walton while the Packers want me to start.
Manning: Do what you feel is best for you Jeff.

[DBroncos4life]

Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic

Jeff's own words explained "the broncos didnt want me" he said he didn't feel the love from the broncos like GB. In GB he's the first choice. In Denver he said they wanted a different direction being first choice.

Has nothing to do with Manning has to do with Saturday not wanting to sit behind Walton.

http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/bron...y-lard-3-25-12

Raider it too dumb to get that.

[Beantown Bronco]

Originally Posted by Jay3

Every time a supporter slips and says only "Tebow," guys like you remind them it was a team effort.

But putting aside semantics, there were some quality teams on the schedule. As it happened, they didn't go to the playoffs because it was an odd year, but the Chargers were good. The Bears had a playoff caliber D, just lost Cutler. But that 18-24 finish Tebow had against them was him coming alive against an elite defense. The Jets barely missed the playoffs and had an elite defense. Any win over the Raiders is a good quality win, even though they haven't been in the playoffs in a while. The Dolphins were playing good defense last year.

You play who's in front of you, and you can't win them all. Pittsburgh was a quality performance against a quality team. Threw the ball well. He showed enough -- the kid's got game. Just needs to find another ride.

Putting aside semantics.....the Broncos beat one team with a winning record last year in the regular season. And Kyle Orton was our QB for that game.

[DBroncos4life]

Manning landed us Clady, Walton, Beadles, Frankling, Decker, and Thomas. With Tebow they didn't exist.

[rbackfactory80]

RaiderH8r- We might be a better team, but we are still not good enough. I am not sure trading for Manning will be worth it after all is said and done.

Dbroncos4life- Manning makes us better

Raiderh8r- I never said he didn't

Dbroncos4life- lol omg f-ing tebowner

[BroncoBeavis]

Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

no you made the case for Saturday picking the Packers over Denver for money. Denver didn't want Saturday that is why he didn't end up with the Broncos. You claimed signing Saturday was a huge selling point for Manning and that wasn't the case at all. The influx is the 5 starters playing we signed after Manning.

This is a dumb distincion because "Didn't Want" is basically synonymous with "Didn't Want to Pay for"

If Jeff volunteered to play for league vet minimum to follow Manning, he'd be a Bronco right now, NQA. Green Bay offered him more money, AKA "Wanted him more" so instead he's in Green Bay.

This isn't difficult.

[BroncoBeavis]

Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Manning landed us Clady, Walton, Beadles, Frankling, Decker, and Thomas. With Tebow they didn't exist.

Manning also resigned Joe Mays. He was gone until Peyton started pounding desks. And since we know Joe reads the OM, he read all about how having PFM would make defense so much easier because they'd be sitting on 28 point leads every game.

[RaiderH8r]

Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic

Jeff's own words explained "the broncos didnt want me" he said he didn't feel the love from the broncos like GB. In GB he's the first choice. In Denver he said they wanted a different direction being first choice.

Has nothing to do with Manning has to do with Saturday not wanting to sit behind Walton.

http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/bron...y-lard-3-25-12

Again, I'm not arguing any of that. I'm arguing that 1. Denver was interested, at least to some degree. Enough to bring him out and 2. If there is any player in the mix that Manning could have had an impact on signing it would have been Saturday. If playing with Manning were the be all, end all DB4L is making it out to be then it wouldn't have mattered to Saturday what Denver's plans were. He would have put all of that aside to play for God, Country, and Manning. Obviously that didn't happen. Players don't pass up self interest in favor of playing with certain players. Doesn't happen. Yet DB4L would have me believe that players do indeed pass up self interest to play with Manning. I hope that's true because I'd love to get JJ Watt in here next offseason. I bet Watt requests a trade to play with Manning.

[DBroncos4life]

Originally Posted by rbackfactory80

RaiderH8r- We might be a better team, but we are still not good enough. I am not sure trading for Manning will be worth it after all is said and done.

Dbroncos4life- Manning makes us better

Raiderh8r- I never said he didn't

Dbroncos4life- lol omg f-ing tebowner

we traded for Manning now
Raider claims Denver would be better with Tebow and used the money spent on Manning for other FA's.

I claim no FA was coming to Denver because of Tebow. Is that clear?

[RaiderH8r]

Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Manning landed us Clady, Walton, Beadles, Frankling, Decker, and Thomas. With Tebow they didn't exist.

And his tears heal baby cancer. I know. Manning fixes everything.

BTW, OL also take pride in the #1 running game in the league.

[Drunken.Broncoholic]

Originally Posted by RaiderH8r

Again, I'm not arguing any of that. I'm arguing that 1. Denver was interested, at least to some degree. Enough to bring him out and 2. If there is any player in the mix that Manning could have had an impact on signing it would have been Saturday. If playing with Manning were the be all, end all DB4L is making it out to be then it wouldn't have mattered to Saturday what Denver's plans were. He would have put all of that aside to play for God, Country, and Manning. Obviously that didn't happen. Players don't pass up self interest in favor of playing with certain players. Doesn't happen. Yet DB4L would have me believe that players do indeed pass up self interest to play with Manning. I hope that's true because I'd love to get JJ Watt in here next offseason. I bet Watt requests a trade to play with Manning.

I think there's some lost in translation here. I re read his post and he's stating Denver wasn't as interested(which means less money and no starting position)

[rbackfactory80]

Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

we traded for Manning now
Raider claims Denver would be better with Tebow and used the money spent on Manning for other FA's.

I claim no FA was coming to Denver because of Tebow. Is that clear?

Tebow sucks. hehe haha rofl

[DBroncos4life]

Originally Posted by RaiderH8r

And his tears heal baby cancer. I know. Manning fixes everything.

BTW, OL also take pride in the #1 running game in the league.

Pretty much what I expected from you.

[DBroncos4life]

Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic

I think there's some lost in translation here. I re read his post and he's stating Denver wasn't as interested(which means less money and no starting position)

That is it. If Denver wants him as a starter he is a Bronco.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by rbackfactory80

RaiderH8r- We might be a better team, but we are still not good enough. I am not sure trading for Manning will be worth it after all is said and done.

Dbroncos4life- Manning makes us better

Raiderh8r- I never said he didn't

Dbroncos4life- lol omg f-ing tebowner

I don't get it.

[rbackfactory80]

Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

I don't get it.

I was writing without thinking. I was doing a good dbroncos4life impersonation.

[RaiderH8r]

Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

That is it. If Denver wants him as a starter he is a Bronco.

But I thought the presence of Manning is all that is needed for the most coveted free agents to flock to Denver.

Manning fixes everything.

[RaiderH8r]

Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic

I think there's some lost in translation here. I re read his post and he's stating Denver wasn't as interested(which means less money and no starting position)

His argument from the outset has been that players came here because of Manning and has yet to back that up. If his argument holds water the one guy, Saturday, that Manning reached out to would have signed in Denver. Saturday is about the best case scenario to support DB4L's argument that Manning brings players to Denver. If this were true Saturday would have come regardless of the pay or situation because playing with Manning is really what motivates players to sign with a team.

[baja]

Originally Posted by RaiderH8r

His argument from the outset has been that players came here because of Manning and has yet to back that up. If his argument holds water the one guy, Saturday, that Manning reached out to would have signed in Denver. Saturday is about the best case scenario to support DB4L's argument that Manning brings players to Denver. If this were true Saturday would have come regardless of the pay or situation because playing with Manning is really what motivates players to sign with a team.

What you do not know is Manning has a bad case of planters warts on the back of his hands and Saturday did not want to risk butt warts.