Grade Demaryius Thru 5 weeks - Page 3 - The Orange Mane

TheReverend · 10-09-2012, 01:12 PM

A+ production with D mistakes (fumbles and dropped balls) so I give a B for benefit of the doubt while hoping he'll give me a W for wont **** me over anymore

DENVERDUI55 · 10-09-2012, 01:18 PM

^ This. He has been a stud in fantasy though.

baja · 10-09-2012, 01:20 PM

Anyone grading Demaryius Thomas out at a C or less is a shoeless orphan.

theAPAOps5 · 10-09-2012, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Oh so if we won the Pats game then what?

C too many sloppy fumbles and play. C to A is not that far of a leap if he cleans it up. I think he will get to an A too, rather not live up to his potential like other potential beast WRs

BroncoBeavis · 10-09-2012, 01:53 PM

Fun stat of the afternoon.

DT has lost twice as many career fumbles as Brandon Stokely.

2KBack · 10-09-2012, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBeavis

Fun stat of the afternoon.

DT has lost twice as many career fumbles as Brandon Stokely.

and DT has more catches this season already than Stokley caught in 8 of his single seasons in the league.

Yays numbers!

Fedaykin · 10-09-2012, 02:10 PM

Wow, some seriously harsh critics here.

He earns a solid B. Needs to tighten up ball control, and work on red zone production.

As to the fumbles. Only one fumble was unforgivable. One was a desperation play, the other way partly a great defensive play.

He blew it big time in Oakland fumbling out of no where, but to hold his ass to the fire for the others is just assinine.

Fedaykin · 10-09-2012, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by theAPAOps5

C too many sloppy fumbles and play. C to A is not that far of a leap if he cleans it up. I think he will get to an A too, rather not live up to his potential like other potential beast WRs

That's what we generally call someone having a B.

BroncoBeavis · 10-09-2012, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 2KBack

and DT has more catches this season already than Stokley caught in 8 of his single seasons in the league.

Yays numbers!

Brandon didn't play a lot some years. But he had one year with more receptions than DT has career. And 7 times as many catches overall. So in the end... fumbles are bad mmmkay.

TheReverend · 10-09-2012, 02:28 PM

I love how people insult other people over a hypothetical letter grading of someone else's performance after 1 quarter of a season.

Requiem · 10-09-2012, 02:40 PM

You are a shoeless orphan, Rev.

Doggcow · 10-09-2012, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 2KBack

First started? He is the league leader in drops over the last 3 seasons. As for fumbles, he had 8 in his 4 years with Denver.

I'm ok with Thomas producing like Marshall did. I think it's just that style of player. You take the good with the bad.

Requiem · 10-09-2012, 02:45 PM

Demaryius having the most drops is false.

Requiem · 10-09-2012, 02:46 PM

Marshall being the top player in drops is a lie too.

ZONA · 10-09-2012, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by theAPAOps5

I went back and forth between B and C. Those fumbles as a result of bone head lack of ball control give him a C. He'll if he just is more disciplined he is an easy A right now.

There is no way with those numbers you could give him a C, even with a few fumbles lost. What was that stat, he's 1 yard out of 1st place in the NFL in yards right now. C? gimmie a break dude.

So with your rule of thought, you could also give Manning a C right now because of all those INT's that cost us the game in ATL and a fumble in the last game that had as much to do with the loss as the fumble by Thomas. No, you don't give Manning a C. In fact, most here would give him an A. So to say Thomas would get a C, those who would cast their vote that way are clueless idiots, plain and simple.

yerner · 10-09-2012, 03:30 PM

His fumble at New England made me very very angry.

sirhcyennek81 · 10-09-2012, 03:34 PM

I'd give him a B. The fumbles...ball security needs to not only be stressed daily but tattooed on his hands. Tuck that b**** away and then run for 40 yards downfield.

Tombstone RJ · 10-09-2012, 03:41 PM

too many mistakes IMHO. I think he's just feeling the pressure to perform and it's stressing him out a little too much. Hopefully towards the end of the year he will feel much more comfortable in this offense and just play ball. He's got great talent, with him it's a mental issue.

that fumble in the raiders game is a perfect example. He's running down the field, he tries to switch the ball from one hand to the other (in order to deliver a stiff arm to the DB) and he just drops the ball. It's crap like this that makes people scream.

SonOfLe-loLang · 10-09-2012, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ

too many mistakes IMHO. I think he's just feeling the pressure to perform and it's stressing him out a little too much. Hopefully towards the end of the year he will feel much more comfortable in this offense and just play ball. He's got great talent, with him it's a mental issue.

that fumble in the raiders game is a perfect example. He's running down the field, he tries to switch the ball from one hand to the other (in order to deliver a stiff arm to the DB) and he just drops the ball. It's crap like this that makes people scream.

you think this is because of stress

Or just a random occurance? Im voting the latter

BroncoBeavis · 10-09-2012, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

you think this is because of stress

Or just a random occurance? Im voting the latter

I think it might be just a bit of nerves with the Manning acquisition and the instant national expectations that brought for him (in combination with Hailmaryius)

I think he'll overcome it and eventually earn A's. But giving him A's for his performance when his mistakes have taken at least as many touchdowns off the board as he's scored so far? Just think about that. How does that grade out to an A?

Yards only pay out in FF.

Kaylore · 10-09-2012, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

A+ production with D mistakes (fumbles and dropped balls) so I give a B for benefit of the doubt while hoping he'll give me a W for wont **** me over anymore

This except I voted C for CoC (and because the fumbles are unforgivable.)

TheReverend · 10-09-2012, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

This except I voted C for CoC (and because the fumbles are unforgivable.)

Haven't we had enough threads concerning the forgive-ability of fumbles this week?

Turd_Ferguson · 10-09-2012, 04:39 PM

I gave him a B strictly based on the two big fumbles he has had. The great thing about this kid is that he came from Georgia Tech....Meaning he was used mostly to block downfield...Meaning he isn't a lazy Randy Moss type WR that only plays when he is getting the ball. Seems like every game he is laying out some DB down field with a huge block. In college and his first few years in the NFL he has never had to worry about sharpening his route running and his ball skills, because he was in a run heavy option style offense, and even with Tebow several of his big plays came from breaking off routes when Tebow scrambled.

Look at how great Rod Smith became after being an undrafted free agent. I believe a lot of the reason he was able to do that was due to playing with Elway and learning how to become a great WR. Peyton Manning will be here for a few years at least. Hopefully by the time Manning retires, Thomas will be a veteran Rod Smith/Reggie Wayne type leader of the offense, and a safety blanket for a guy like Osweiler when he eventually takes over. Guy could be great, its very exciting, and even though I think a lot of the freaking out over his drops and fumbles has been greatly exaggerated, he does need to improve his ball skills. Keep in mind TO dropped a TON of passes and if not for his horrible locker room problems he may have been a HoF player. The kid has only been in an NFL passing offense for like 1 season lets just hope he has the work ethic to continue to improve cause he has the tools to be great. He is currently a B with A+ potential.

Bacchus · 10-09-2012, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Turd_Ferguson

I gave him a B strictly based on the two big fumbles he has had. The great thing about this kid is that he came from Georgia Tech....Meaning he was used mostly to block downfield...Meaning he isn't a lazy Randy Moss type WR that only plays when he is getting the ball. Seems like every game he is laying out some DB down field with a huge block. In college and his first few years in the NFL he has never had to worry about sharpening his route running and his ball skills, because he was in a run heavy option style offense, and even with Tebow several of his big plays came from breaking off routes when Tebow scrambled.

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I find your avatar offensive and distasteful.

CEH · 10-10-2012, 05:50 AM

Final point cause I think it needs to be brought up

In the NFL if you can beat man to man coverage and is the designated #1 WR on your team then you are better than average

DT can and does beat man to man coverage every game.

Name me 10 other WRs in the league that can beat man to man coverage on a daily basis..

If you can I bet that list is a list of All Pro Wrs

View Poll Results: grade demaryius
A: Numbers speak for themselves	17	13.18%
B: Good so far, too many damn fumbles	73	56.59%
C: Hold on to the damn ball, D. Less drops too.	36	27.91%
D: Misleading numbers, he's the #1 WR by default	3	2.33%
F: **** DONNIE, You had one job!	0	0%
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10-09-2012, 01:12 PM	#51
TheReverend www.PatrickTurley.org ^ buy this... twice Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 33,021 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mike Shanahan	A+ production with D mistakes (fumbles and dropped balls) so I give a B for benefit of the doubt while hoping he'll give me a W for wont **** me over anymore

10-09-2012, 01:18 PM	#52
DENVERDUI55 Drunk on Arrival! New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,179 Adopt-a-Bronco: Montee Ball	^ This. He has been a stud in fantasy though.

10-09-2012, 01:20 PM	#53
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,921 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Anyone grading Demaryius Thomas out at a C or less is a shoeless orphan.

10-09-2012, 01:53 PM	#55
BroncoBeavis Just Draughted Lupus Methylphenthylaminus? Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 6,938	Fun stat of the afternoon. DT has lost twice as many career fumbles as Brandon Stokely.

10-09-2012, 02:10 PM	#57
Fedaykin Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,839 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Wow, some seriously harsh critics here. He earns a solid B. Needs to tighten up ball control, and work on red zone production. As to the fumbles. Only one fumble was unforgivable. One was a desperation play, the other way partly a great defensive play. He blew it big time in Oakland fumbling out of no where, but to hold his ass to the fire for the others is just assinine.

10-09-2012, 02:28 PM	#60
TheReverend www.PatrickTurley.org ^ buy this... twice Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 33,021 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mike Shanahan	I love how people insult other people over a hypothetical letter grading of someone else's performance after 1 quarter of a season.

10-09-2012, 02:40 PM	#61
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,606 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	You are a shoeless orphan, Rev.

10-09-2012, 02:45 PM	#63
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,606 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	Demaryius having the most drops is false.

10-09-2012, 02:46 PM	#64
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,606 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	Marshall being the top player in drops is a lie too.

10-09-2012, 03:30 PM	#66
yerner Ring of Famer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Charlottesville VA Posts: 3,305	His fumble at New England made me very very angry.

10-09-2012, 03:34 PM	#67
sirhcyennek81 Yes...swooping is bad... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florence, Colorado Posts: 20,681 Adopt-a-Bronco: All of them.	I'd give him a B. The fumbles...ball security needs to not only be stressed daily but tattooed on his hands. Tuck that b**** away and then run for 40 yards downfield.

10-09-2012, 03:41 PM	#68
Tombstone RJ Ring of Famer Old School Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In the Tetons! Posts: 19,313 Adopt-a-Bronco: WorrellWilliams	too many mistakes IMHO. I think he's just feeling the pressure to perform and it's stressing him out a little too much. Hopefully towards the end of the year he will feel much more comfortable in this offense and just play ball. He's got great talent, with him it's a mental issue. that fumble in the raiders game is a perfect example. He's running down the field, he tries to switch the ball from one hand to the other (in order to deliver a stiff arm to the DB) and he just drops the ball. It's crap like this that makes people scream.

10-09-2012, 04:39 PM	#73
Turd_Ferguson Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: South Dakota Posts: 1,157 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eric Decker	I gave him a B strictly based on the two big fumbles he has had. The great thing about this kid is that he came from Georgia Tech....Meaning he was used mostly to block downfield...Meaning he isn't a lazy Randy Moss type WR that only plays when he is getting the ball. Seems like every game he is laying out some DB down field with a huge block. In college and his first few years in the NFL he has never had to worry about sharpening his route running and his ball skills, because he was in a run heavy option style offense, and even with Tebow several of his big plays came from breaking off routes when Tebow scrambled. Look at how great Rod Smith became after being an undrafted free agent. I believe a lot of the reason he was able to do that was due to playing with Elway and learning how to become a great WR. Peyton Manning will be here for a few years at least. Hopefully by the time Manning retires, Thomas will be a veteran Rod Smith/Reggie Wayne type leader of the offense, and a safety blanket for a guy like Osweiler when he eventually takes over. Guy could be great, its very exciting, and even though I think a lot of the freaking out over his drops and fumbles has been greatly exaggerated, he does need to improve his ball skills. Keep in mind TO dropped a TON of passes and if not for his horrible locker room problems he may have been a HoF player. The kid has only been in an NFL passing offense for like 1 season lets just hope he has the work ethic to continue to improve cause he has the tools to be great. He is currently a B with A+ potential.

10-10-2012, 05:50 AM	#75
CEH Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,211	Final point cause I think it needs to be brought up In the NFL if you can beat man to man coverage and is the designated #1 WR on your team then you are better than average DT can and does beat man to man coverage every game. Name me 10 other WRs in the league that can beat man to man coverage on a daily basis.. If you can I bet that list is a list of All Pro Wrs