Mays has been in on 96% of defensive snaps - Page 2 - The Orange Mane

Garcia Bronco · 10-09-2012, 09:36 AM

Mays isn't as bad as people say, but still not as good as we need him to be.

teknic · 10-09-2012, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Mays isn't as bad as people say, but still not as good as we need him to be.

Yes.... he is.

For every positive play he has had, he has 10 absolutely retarded plays.

broncocalijohn · 10-09-2012, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

Fair enough, but that's not where the coaches want Brooking taking his snaps. Brooking is officially listed behind Woodyard on the weak side, with Danny Trevathan behind him. Nate Irving is taking snaps behind Von Miller. Hard to know how this picture will change once Idiot Drunk Linebacker gets back from suspension, but for the time being, the coaches seem to think Mays should be taking the bulk of the snaps.

You play them where we have the best chance to win. If Mays is failing at a position and you can move a guy over to Mike, do it! Don't pigeon hole someone. Mays is clueless and lost out there. BTW TJ, it is Gutless Drunk Linebacker! Be consistent.

MagicHef · 10-09-2012, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Mays isn't as bad as people say, but still not as good as we need him to be.

I would be fine with him as a role player, like what Woodyard is right now. However, the coaches are treating him like he is THE GUY on defense, when he clearly has no right to be.

pricejj · 10-09-2012, 10:05 AM

It's pretty obvious there is a major breakdown in the Defense, when your Free Safety (Moore) consistently leads the team in tackles.

broncosteven · 10-09-2012, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ludo21

wow, crazy stat.... I know Mays is the QB of the defense, but really we got to get him off the field on 3rd down, maybe even second down....

DJ getting suspension pushed back really sucks

You forgot 1st down also.

Mays should be sitting next to KM in street clothes every week.

broncosteven · 10-09-2012, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kent156

but did'nt jack del rio compare him to Sam Mills so it can't be too bad right?

I think Elway was hoping that Mays and KM would play above their expectations this year.

I am guessing Elway would have gone with a LB with our 2nd round pick if they knew PM was healthy or would look as good as he has so far. I think the Oss pick was insurance if PM's neck flared up.

They had too many things to overhaul this year so they went with the known quantity rather than try to desperately reach on someone who might be worse.

I do wish they would move KM and get some sort of pick for him while his contract is appealing for his new team. I fear they are going to keep him around for insurance incase Willis or Ronnie get hurt and we end up having to cut KM next year because his deal is backloaded.

SonOfLe-loLang · 10-09-2012, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

Fair enough, but that's not where the coaches want Brooking taking his snaps. Brooking is officially listed behind Woodyard on the weak side, with Danny Trevathan behind him. Nate Irving is taking snaps behind Von Miller. Hard to know how this picture will change once Idiot Drunk Linebacker gets back from suspension, but for the time being, the coaches seem to think Mays should be taking the bulk of the snaps.

Doesn't mean its the correct choice.

Requiem · 10-09-2012, 11:05 AM

Mays needs to be a role player. Quite frankly, I am surprised he even got this much of a shot in the NFL. I knew he could be a situational guy or special teamer, but for him to be a starter was beyond me. When you have guys from small schools who never have the ability to get into the NFL schooling you in the passing game (WR or TE) in a D-I AA program, odds are that isn't going to change in the NFL. Always will be a fan since he went to NDSU where I did, but that doesn't change the fact that he has a lot of weaknesses on the football field.

Last Sunday's game exposed everything Mays does wrong on the field, whether it is making the right adjustments or just flat out stinking in coverage. No way in Hell should a 5'11 ILB ever have to cover Gronkowski down the field. It is a hopeless battle. Gronk was already two steps or three steps behind Mays a second after the play starter. Just sad.

tsiguy96 · 10-09-2012, 11:16 AM

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...triots-week-5/

Nwp-Apap · 10-09-2012, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by pricejj

Mays is on pace for 71 tackles, which is a little less than he had last year.

That's freaking weak for being an MLB on the field 96% of the time.

For comparisons sake, Rahim Moore is on pace for 118 tackles.

Nwp-Apap · 10-09-2012, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pricejj

It's pretty obvious there is a major breakdown in the Defense, when your Free Safety (Moore) consistently leads the team in tackles.

Well, I think that's also due to Moore being fairly adept in run defense. He does make a good number of his tackles short of the first down

go_broncos · 10-09-2012, 12:04 PM

I know the result when Mays is starting especially against good teams.

Doggcow · 10-09-2012, 12:22 PM

Lofton, Hawthorne, Ryans, McClain were all available too. That's what's most frustrating.

maher_tyler · 10-09-2012, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Mays isn't as bad as people say, but still not as good as we need him to be.

How can you even say that even after just the Pats alone? He gets burned every game because he's just not good enough. He is a hard hitter and that is about the only thing he has going for him. We're lucky he didn't take out Miller. He hit Miller harder on that play than the Pats guy. Like someone else said, the Pats game revealed everything that is wrong with Mays. No speed, no instincts, no brains. He is a special teams guy, thats it!

Requiem · 10-09-2012, 12:52 PM

Derek Wolfe has played like dog **** three of the last four weeks.

Taco John · 10-09-2012, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

Doesn't mean its the correct choice.

I'm not saying it's the correct choice - I'm just saying it's what is.

For whatever reason, the coaches want Brooking taking WLB snaps with a Rookie behind Joe Mays. They have better insight into why they want to do it like this than I do. If I were to guess, I'd guess that it's because Mays is the best at being able to call adjustments at the line of scrimmage.

Taco John · 10-09-2012, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

BTW TJ, it is Gutless Drunk Linebacker! Be consistent.

Yes, but you have to remember that Peyton Manning is on our team, which opens up "Drunken Idiot X" to us. The world is our drunken oyster right now. Enjoy!

Br0nc0Buster · 10-09-2012, 01:17 PM

Joe Mays has reached the John Engleberger/Jarvis Moss level of hate to me

The guy is getting juked on routes from freaking RBs

MagicHef · 10-09-2012, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Requiem

Derek Wolfe has played like dog **** three of the last four weeks.

Derek Wolfe is a rookie.

Derek Wolfe comes out of the games in certain situations.

Derek Wolfe has not been called for any penalties.

bronco militia · 10-09-2012, 02:02 PM

Garcia Bronco · 10-09-2012, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by maher_tyler

How can you even say that even after just the Pats alone? He gets burned every game because he's just not good enough. He is a hard hitter and that is about the only thing he has going for him. We're lucky he didn't take out Miller. He hit Miller harder on that play than the Pats guy. Like someone else said, the Pats game revealed everything that is wrong with Mays. No speed, no instincts, no brains. He is a special teams guy, thats it!

sent him a tweet that I hope he read after that play. Tom Jackson will tell you the same..."I can hit you anywhere I want"

You might be right, but right now we have to dance with who we brought to the prom. We're a soft team up the middle on defense at all 3 tiers. We'll never win consistently as long as that's the case. I don't care who our HOF QB is. It just seems to me that this defense needs to pretend that Tebow is the QB and it's all on them

Requiem · 10-09-2012, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

Derek Wolfe is a rookie.

Derek Wolfe comes out of the games in certain situations.

Derek Wolfe has not been called for any penalties.

Don't care. He sucked last week, PERIOD.

LRtagger · 10-09-2012, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco militia

"It's 3rd and 47, run it at that guy"

DenverBroncosJM · 10-09-2012, 02:29 PM

Not sure where those tackle numbers are from but he has 7 full tackles to his name the rest are assist. That's freaking two a game (little less). That's horse **** he sucks and needs to be benched.

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10-09-2012, 09:36 AM	#26
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	Mays isn't as bad as people say, but still not as good as we need him to be.

10-09-2012, 10:05 AM	#30
pricejj jungle Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Louisville, CO Posts: 5,189	It's pretty obvious there is a major breakdown in the Defense, when your Free Safety (Moore) consistently leads the team in tackles.

10-09-2012, 11:05 AM	#34
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,572 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	Mays needs to be a role player. Quite frankly, I am surprised he even got this much of a shot in the NFL. I knew he could be a situational guy or special teamer, but for him to be a starter was beyond me. When you have guys from small schools who never have the ability to get into the NFL schooling you in the passing game (WR or TE) in a D-I AA program, odds are that isn't going to change in the NFL. Always will be a fan since he went to NDSU where I did, but that doesn't change the fact that he has a lot of weaknesses on the football field. Last Sunday's game exposed everything Mays does wrong on the field, whether it is making the right adjustments or just flat out stinking in coverage. No way in Hell should a 5'11 ILB ever have to cover Gronkowski down the field. It is a hopeless battle. Gronk was already two steps or three steps behind Mays a second after the play starter. Just sad.

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tsiguy96 Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 12,559 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...triots-week-5/

10-09-2012, 12:04 PM	#38
go_broncos Ring of Famer **** you Bill Vinovich Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 5,219 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rod Smith	I know the result when Mays is starting especially against good teams.

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Doggcow Rebel Laughs At Unbelievers Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 8,303 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Lofton, Hawthorne, Ryans, McClain were all available too. That's what's most frustrating.

10-09-2012, 12:52 PM	#41
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,572 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	Derek Wolfe has played like dog **** three of the last four weeks.

10-09-2012, 01:17 PM	#44
Br0nc0Buster 2012 AFC West Champs stiff arming through the playoffs Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 4,434	Joe Mays has reached the John Engleberger/Jarvis Moss level of hate to me The guy is getting juked on routes from freaking RBs

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10-09-2012, 02:29 PM	#50
DenverBroncosJM Post here Vine Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California Posts: 975	Not sure where those tackle numbers are from but he has 7 full tackles to his name the rest are assist. That's freaking two a game (little less). That's horse **** he sucks and needs to be benched.