Mays has been in on 96% of defensive snaps - The Orange Mane

MagicHef · 10-09-2012, 08:21 AM

not counting his suspension. Only Adams (100%) and Moore (98%) have a higher percentage.

Bailey (95%), Dumervil (91%), Miller (89%) and Porter (83%) are all clearly more talented but play less often.

Woodyard, who I feel has approximately the same overall talent as Mays, plays 71% of the snaps.

Why is Mays so crucial to our defense?

baja · 10-09-2012, 08:24 AM

good question

DBroncos4life · 10-09-2012, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

not counting his suspension. Only Adams (100%) and Moore (98%) have a higher percentage.

Bailey (95%), Dumervil (91%), Miller (89%) and Porter (83%) are all clearly more talented but play less often.

Woodyard, who I feel has approximately the same overall talent as Mays, plays 71% of the snaps.

Why is Mays so crucial to our defense?

Coaching staff must expect running plays a lot

Crushaholic · 10-09-2012, 08:28 AM

As the middle linebacker, he's expected to be the quarterback of the defense...

WolfpackGuy · 10-09-2012, 08:29 AM

Billy Mays would be better, and he's freakin dead.

Taco John · 10-09-2012, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

Why is Mays so crucial to our defense?

I think it has to do with the fact that his back-up is Steven Johnson, an undrafted rookie. Our linebacker depth is pretty shallow.

Mediator12 · 10-09-2012, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Crushaholic

As the middle linebacker, he's expected to be the quarterback of the defense...

And he failed miserably doing that last week against NE. I mean epic fail adjusting to the the Patriots no huddle and then getting playcalls adjusted to formation. He personally killed the execution of any playcalling by being poor at making those adjustments on defense.

Drunken.Broncoholic · 10-09-2012, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

I think it has to do with the fact that his back-up is Steven Johnson, an undrafted rookie. Our linebacker depth is pretty shallow.

That depth played pretty well when he was suspended.

bronco militia · 10-09-2012, 08:36 AM

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That depth played pretty well when he was suspended.

we can't play the Raiders every week

Broncomutt · 10-09-2012, 08:37 AM

Since it is classless to hope for an injury, I am going to pray that Mays gets himself suspended again.

Maybe somebody could sprinkle some HGH in his mashed potatos.

Drunken.Broncoholic · 10-09-2012, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco militia

we can't play the Raiders every week

Ya but McFadden is a good measuring stick and they stuffed him.

MagicHef · 10-09-2012, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

I think it has to do with the fact that his back-up is Steven Johnson, an undrafted rookie. Our linebacker depth is pretty shallow.

Brooking took over the MLB spot, and Woodyard took over the nickel LB position against the Raiders. They seemed to do pretty well.

Taco John · 10-09-2012, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco militia

we can't play the Raiders every week

Beat me to it...

Taco John · 10-09-2012, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

Brooking took over the MLB spot, and Woodyard took over the nickel LB position against the Raiders. They seemed to do pretty well.

Fair enough, but that's not where the coaches want Brooking taking his snaps. Brooking is officially listed behind Woodyard on the weak side, with Danny Trevathan behind him. Nate Irving is taking snaps behind Von Miller. Hard to know how this picture will change once Idiot Drunk Linebacker gets back from suspension, but for the time being, the coaches seem to think Mays should be taking the bulk of the snaps.

ludo21 · 10-09-2012, 08:44 AM

wow, crazy stat.... I know Mays is the QB of the defense, but really we got to get him off the field on 3rd down, maybe even second down....

DJ getting suspension pushed back really sucks

MagicHef · 10-09-2012, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco militia

we can't play the Raiders every week

The Raiders aren't world beaters, but they averaged over 20 ppg against SD, MIA, and PIT. Those aren't bad defenses.

Drunken.Broncoholic · 10-09-2012, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

Fair enough, but that's not where the coaches want Brooking taking his snaps. Brooking is officially listed behind Woodyard on the weak side, with Danny Trevathan behind him. Nate Irving is taking snaps behind Von Miller. Hard to know how this picture will change once Idiot Drunk Linebacker gets back from suspension, but for the time being, the coaches seem to think Mays should be taking the bulk of the snaps.

This should have been attended to in the offseason. If the fans knew MLB was weak months ago the FO should've, instead of rewarding bad play.

teknic · 10-09-2012, 08:56 AM

Mays has been in on 96% of defensive snaps....

and burned on 92% of plays.

It's absolutely ridiculous that Mays stays on the field in obvious passing situations. He can't cover. At all. Every RB, TE, FB he's tried to cover has got the best of him and converted some big plays.

He was thought to be a solid tackler and big hitter in the run game, but I have never seen it. His instincts are terrible. He's a downhill mike that just guesses which gap to hit. As soon as the RB notices Mays crashing inside, he just bounces outside for a 10yd gain...Don't even get me started on Mays biting on play action way too often...

The only reason that I can think of to justify the coaches keeping him in is for playcalling. The MLB is usually responsible for giving the play to the rest of the D, and getting them aligned correctly. I looked for it, and sure enough Mays is the player that has the green dot on his helmet. That's a serious indictment on the intelligence of the rest of the linebackers though if Mays is the best option to get the defense set. He sucks at lining them up and tipping plays. Brooking was 10x better, and he has only been here for a few weeks.

baja · 10-09-2012, 09:00 AM

imagine what this team would be like with an Al Wilson in his prime.

Drunken.Broncoholic · 10-09-2012, 09:02 AM

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imagine what this team would be like with an Al Wilson in his prime.

Love Wilson. I'm just imagining what they'd be like with just a decent LB

spdirty · 10-09-2012, 09:13 AM

My Mays/Fox anger was just starting to subside. Then you bring this up.

Requiem · 10-09-2012, 09:21 AM

Josh McDaniels knew how to exploit him. After all, he traded for him.

kent156 · 10-09-2012, 09:23 AM

but did'nt jack del rio compare him to Sam Mills so it can't be too bad right?

MagicHef · 10-09-2012, 09:26 AM

Mays has 9 stops (tackles resulting in a failure for the offense). Woodyard has been in on 40 fewer plays, and has 18 stops. Brooking has been in on less than half as many plays as Mays and has 8.

I don't get it. Does the headset not fit in anyone else's helmet?

broncocalijohn · 10-09-2012, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Crushaholic

As the middle linebacker, he's expected to be the quarterback of the defense...

He has completely failed at that. Brooking had a much better idea where the linebackers should be against the Raiders. This week left Ridley with so many holes to choose from. Lack of knowledge and an average (or below average) talen is killing us.

10-09-2012, 08:21 AM	#1
MagicHef Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,430 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Mays has been in on 96% of defensive snaps not counting his suspension. Only Adams (100%) and Moore (98%) have a higher percentage. Bailey (95%), Dumervil (91%), Miller (89%) and Porter (83%) are all clearly more talented but play less often. Woodyard, who I feel has approximately the same overall talent as Mays, plays 71% of the snaps. Why is Mays so crucial to our defense?

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10-09-2012, 08:24 AM	#2
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,921 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	good question

10-09-2012, 08:28 AM	#4
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,044	As the middle linebacker, he's expected to be the quarterback of the defense...

10-09-2012, 08:29 AM	#5
WolfpackGuy Call me, "Maybe" Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Delaware Posts: 5,675	Billy Mays would be better, and he's freakin dead.

10-09-2012, 08:37 AM	#10
Broncomutt Truth is.... Goliath never stood a chance. Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Waxhaw, NC Posts: 1,092	Since it is classless to hope for an injury, I am going to pray that Mays gets himself suspended again. Maybe somebody could sprinkle some HGH in his mashed potatos.

10-09-2012, 08:44 AM	#15
ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,915 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	wow, crazy stat.... I know Mays is the QB of the defense, but really we got to get him off the field on 3rd down, maybe even second down.... DJ getting suspension pushed back really sucks

10-09-2012, 08:56 AM	#18
teknic Pro Bowler Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Hamilton, ON Posts: 680	Mays has been in on 96% of defensive snaps.... and burned on 92% of plays. It's absolutely ridiculous that Mays stays on the field in obvious passing situations. He can't cover. At all. Every RB, TE, FB he's tried to cover has got the best of him and converted some big plays. He was thought to be a solid tackler and big hitter in the run game, but I have never seen it. His instincts are terrible. He's a downhill mike that just guesses which gap to hit. As soon as the RB notices Mays crashing inside, he just bounces outside for a 10yd gain...Don't even get me started on Mays biting on play action way too often... The only reason that I can think of to justify the coaches keeping him in is for playcalling. The MLB is usually responsible for giving the play to the rest of the D, and getting them aligned correctly. I looked for it, and sure enough Mays is the player that has the green dot on his helmet. That's a serious indictment on the intelligence of the rest of the linebackers though if Mays is the best option to get the defense set. He sucks at lining them up and tipping plays. Brooking was 10x better, and he has only been here for a few weeks.

10-09-2012, 09:00 AM	#19
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,921 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	imagine what this team would be like with an Al Wilson in his prime.

10-09-2012, 09:13 AM	#21
spdirty Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bailey Posts: 13,903 Adopt-a-Bronco: Koppen	My Mays/Fox anger was just starting to subside. Then you bring this up.

10-09-2012, 09:21 AM	#22
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,606 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	Josh McDaniels knew how to exploit him. After all, he traded for him.

10-09-2012, 09:23 AM	#23
kent156 King of the Ants Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Paradise lost Posts: 685	but did'nt jack del rio compare him to Sam Mills so it can't be too bad right?

10-09-2012, 09:26 AM	#24
MagicHef Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,430 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Mays has 9 stops (tackles resulting in a failure for the offense). Woodyard has been in on 40 fewer plays, and has 18 stops. Brooking has been in on less than half as many plays as Mays and has 8. I don't get it. Does the headset not fit in anyone else's helmet?