But.... I thought Tebow was the problem. - Page 2 - The Orange Mane

Popps · 10-07-2012, 04:50 PM

Different year, different QB, same result. We've been having these conversations for how long?

It's not the QB all the time, guys. NE ran the ball at will and controlled the pace of the game. We couldn't run the ball, and were reduced to constant passing-only situations.

It's a work in progress. Today was disheartening, only because it's just the same old same old. I'm still holding out hope that this team will gel as the season goes on, and we'll see a more competitive team down the stretch.

Turd_Ferguson · 10-07-2012, 04:55 PM

Broncos vs Pats 2011 playoff game 45-10
Broncos vs Pats 2012 reg season game 21-31 McGahee fumble away from being 3 point game.

yep exactly the same... What the **** did people expect an undefeated season? Did you people look at the season schedule at all before the season started? Its ****ing brutal. They just need to get into the playoffs, not go undefeated. They have lost close games to 3 sure bet playoff teams, beat the Steelers (a possible playoff team), and completely destroyed a division rival. How about we wait and see how they do next week against the team they will be competing with for the division before going into meltdown mode.

NUB · 10-07-2012, 05:05 PM

Yes, it's almost like Denver changed QBs for the umpteenth time instead of fixing the defense or something.

SonOfLe-loLang · 10-07-2012, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NUB

Yes, it's almost like Denver changed QBs for the umpteenth time instead of fixing the defense or something.

Regardless, we needed to change the QB. It was a must.

And its not like we traded away D players to get peyton.

Archedamian · 10-07-2012, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SonOfLe-loLang

Regardless, we needed to change the QB. It was a must.

And its not like we traded away D players to get peyton.

I was and am a fan of Tebow, but I agree with you that he was probably not the answer. What pisses me off is the fans who throw him under the bus and completely blame him for the issues with this team. It is obvious he was not the sole problem.

SonOfLe-loLang · 10-07-2012, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Archedamian

I was and am a fan of Tebow, but I agree with you that he was probably not the answer. What pisses me off is the fans who throw him under the bus and completely blame him for the issues with this team. It is obvious he was not the sole problem.

I wont blame him for these issues, i loved watching last season. One of the most fun ive had as a broncos fan. But hes just not a QB.

Gort · 10-07-2012, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Popps

Different year, different QB, same result. We've been having these conversations for how long?

It's not the QB all the time, guys. NE ran the ball at will and controlled the pace of the game. We couldn't run the ball, and were reduced to constant passing-only situations.

It's a work in progress. Today was disheartening, only because it's just the same old same old. I'm still holding out hope that this team will gel as the season goes on, and we'll see a more competitive team down the stretch.

didn't you get the memo?

Peyton automatically makes us a SB contender. so much so that we can draft a project QB in the 2nd round instead of actual defensive help.

if you can't see this, it's only because you are a Teboner.

/sarc

NorCalBronco7 · 10-07-2012, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gort

didn't you get the memo?

Peyton automatically makes us a SB contender. so much so that we can draft a project QB in the 2nd round instead of actual defensive help.

if you can't see this, it's only because you are a Teboner.

/sarc

Like some random 2nd rounder was or is the difference.

broncosteven · 10-07-2012, 05:27 PM

I for one thought each of the 2 losses to the Patsy's were way more embarrasing than todays. Hell we still had a shot late. Turnovers and run D killed us today, not QB play. If anything Manning looked very good throwing the ball today.

oubronco · 10-07-2012, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Popps

Different year, different QB, same result. We've been having these conversations for how long?

It's not the QB all the time, guys. NE ran the ball at will and controlled the pace of the game. We couldn't run the ball, and were reduced to constant passing-only situations.

It's a work in progress. Today was disheartening, only because it's just the same old same old. I'm still holding out hope that this team will gel as the season goes on, and we'll see a more competitive team down the stretch.

I've been saying for years "You win in the trenches and you lose in the trenches" and our trenches have needed alot of help for years and they need some "Good" mean LB's as well

oubronco · 10-07-2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NorCalBronco7

Like some random 2nd rounder was or is the difference.

Lavonte Davis was right there to be had

NorCalBronco7 · 10-07-2012, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by oubronco

Lavonte Davis was right there to be had

And he would be so much better than Woodyard...

God I wish the Broncos weren't so dumb!

oubronco · 10-07-2012, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NorCalBronco7

And he would be so much better than Woodyard...

God I wish the Broncos weren't so dumb!

Woodyard isn't anything special homie

menonite · 10-07-2012, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NorCalBronco7

Like some random 2nd rounder was or is the difference.

This team got it's butt kicked by a sixth round QB today.

I honestly think a "random" pick of the top 60 college prospects would have likely given the team somebody better than some of the scrubs on this team. Or at least not have been any worse. They shouldn't be "random" picks if they are actually evaluating the players though, right?

errand · 10-07-2012, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by lostknight

35 first downs given up.. To a team with josh mcdaniels as a oc. Disaster. Disaster.

Well, what a ****ing revelation...

Kyle Orton isn't Tom Brady.....Tim Tebow isn't Tom Brady. Teams that play against Tom Brady generally lose to Tom Brady....his winning pct. is like .750 in regular season....

rbackfactory80 · 10-07-2012, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by errand

Well, what a ****ing revelation...

Kyle Orton isn't Tom Brady.....Tim Tebow isn't Tom Brady. Teams that play against Tom Brady generally lose to Tom Brady....his winning pct. is like .750 in regular season....

No. But Tom Brady is no Tim Tebow either.

lostknight · 10-07-2012, 05:45 PM

Classic. Make a post about how the team's scapegoat of a QB, and the defense was, and it turns into yet another QB post.

errand · 10-07-2012, 05:45 PM

Our 3 losses this year have come against teams that are a combined 12-2....color me shocked.

NorCalBronco7 · 10-07-2012, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by oubronco

Woodyard isn't anything special homie

And like David is...

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Originally Posted by menonite

This team got it's butt kicked by a sixth round QB today.

I honestly think a "random" pick of the top 60 college prospects would have likely given the team somebody better than some of the scrubs on this team. Or at least not have been any worse. They shouldn't be "random" picks if they are actually evaluating the players though, right?

Haha didnt read.

errand · 10-07-2012, 05:53 PM

For the record nobody said Tebow was "the problem" with our team last season....

People were pissed he couldn't throw the ball very well, and that he struggled to read defenses at the NFL level. However when a franchise future HoF QB became a free agent, and you have a chance to sign him, you do it because he's a better player than the other guy you had playing QB.

signing Manning put us closer to contending for a SB title.....and his play this season so far justifies his being signed. We do need to fix the defensive problems we're facing though....

menonite · 10-07-2012, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NorCalBronco7

And like David is...

Haha didnt read.

Didn't or can't?

I can't help but think you may have a trained helper monkey with Tourettes helping you post.

BroncoBeavis · 10-07-2012, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by broncosteven

Turnovers and run D killed us today, not QB play.

Sounds a lot like the first Pats game last year. Except the defensive performance was more embarrassing this time around.

Jesterhole · 10-07-2012, 06:12 PM

The problem is, and always has been, the defense...nothing to do with offense. When was the last time you felt confidence when our D was on the field? I honestly don't remember...

Broncos dude · 10-07-2012, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Archedamian

I was and am a fan of Tebow, but I agree with you that he was probably not the answer. What pisses me off is the fans who throw him under the bus and completely blame him for the issues with this team. It is obvious he was not the sole problem.

Hey , Skip . I love me some Tebow

ColoradoDarin · 10-07-2012, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by broncosteven

I for one thought each of the 2 losses to the Patsy's were way more embarrasing than todays. Hell we still had a shot late. Turnovers and run D killed us today, not QB play. If anything Manning looked very good throwing the ball today.

No way. We were completely owning in that first Pats game until we shat the bed in the 2nd quarter. 3 Fumbles that led to quick Pats points (including that stupid punt return screw up that gave them 3 right at the end of the half)? We probably lose that game anyways because of our D, but we started at least as good as we did today.

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10-07-2012, 04:50 PM	#26
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,786	Different year, different QB, same result. We've been having these conversations for how long? It's not the QB all the time, guys. NE ran the ball at will and controlled the pace of the game. We couldn't run the ball, and were reduced to constant passing-only situations. It's a work in progress. Today was disheartening, only because it's just the same old same old. I'm still holding out hope that this team will gel as the season goes on, and we'll see a more competitive team down the stretch.

10-07-2012, 04:55 PM	#27
Turd_Ferguson Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: South Dakota Posts: 1,157 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eric Decker	Broncos vs Pats 2011 playoff game 45-10 Broncos vs Pats 2012 reg season game 21-31 McGahee fumble away from being 3 point game. yep exactly the same... What the ** did people expect an undefeated season? Did you people look at the season schedule at all before the season started? Its **ing brutal. They just need to get into the playoffs, not go undefeated. They have lost close games to 3 sure bet playoff teams, beat the Steelers (a possible playoff team), and completely destroyed a division rival. How about we wait and see how they do next week against the team they will be competing with for the division before going into meltdown mode.

10-07-2012, 05:05 PM	#28
NUB Just Crafted New to the Forum Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,448 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Yes, it's almost like Denver changed QBs for the umpteenth time instead of fixing the defense or something.

10-07-2012, 05:27 PM	#34
broncosteven The Kranz Dictum MWA: Flight Director Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tranquility Base Posts: 29,059 Adopt-a-Bronco: MONEYBALL #38	I for one thought each of the 2 losses to the Patsy's were way more embarrasing than todays. Hell we still had a shot late. Turnovers and run D killed us today, not QB play. If anything Manning looked very good throwing the ball today.

10-07-2012, 05:45 PM	#42
lostknight In The Arena ohwaitwtf Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,362 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tim Tebow	Classic. Make a post about how the team's scapegoat of a QB, and the defense was, and it turns into yet another QB post.

10-07-2012, 05:45 PM	#43
errand Ring of Famer Forgot more than you'll ever know Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Western NC mountains Posts: 15,066	Our 3 losses this year have come against teams that are a combined 12-2....color me shocked.

10-07-2012, 05:53 PM	#45
errand Ring of Famer Forgot more than you'll ever know Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Western NC mountains Posts: 15,066	For the record nobody said Tebow was "the problem" with our team last season.... People were pissed he couldn't throw the ball very well, and that he struggled to read defenses at the NFL level. However when a franchise future HoF QB became a free agent, and you have a chance to sign him, you do it because he's a better player than the other guy you had playing QB. signing Manning put us closer to contending for a SB title.....and his play this season so far justifies his being signed. We do need to fix the defensive problems we're facing though....

10-07-2012, 06:12 PM	#48
Jesterhole Ring of Famer Ridin' the McFailboat... Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,036	The problem is, and always has been, the defense...nothing to do with offense. When was the last time you felt confidence when our D was on the field? I honestly don't remember...