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Old 10-03-2012, 07:58 AM   #1
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Frankly, I expect nothing but vanilla. Using football analogies, I think Obama will play like he has the lead and try and use up the clock. Romney will go for the Hail Mary.
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Frankly, I expect nothing but vanilla. Using football analogies, I think Obama will play like he has the lead and try and use up the clock. Romney will go for the Hail Mary.
Romney will be on the attack and Obama will be like his favorite cigarette.....COOL
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:06 AM   #3
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I think it'll be a bunch of nothing. What I'll be interested to see is if they spew the talking points in their ads that they personally approve.
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I think it'll be a bunch of nothing. What I'll be interested to see is if they spew the talking points in their ads that they personally approve.
It depends what you mean by nothing. Romney will be on the attack and that should be interesting to see what he comes up with.
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Yes. I will be taking shots every time Romney attacks Obama, but doesn't offer a solution himself. Fully expect to be loaded thirty minutes into the debate.
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Old 10-03-2012, 08:27 AM   #6
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Romney's desperate, so he will probably be more aggressive. Supposedly, his team is preparing some "one-liners" for him, so it will be interesting to see if they come up with anything that will resonate and turn things around. I don't think Romney has the charisma to pull off a game-changer in a debate format. We'll see.
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:17 AM   #7
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I think if Obama is smart he'll be on the attack as well. However, I do agree that Romney has the bigger need to swing independents like myself. He'll really have to expose the PResident for some of his short falls and that debate starts with foreign policy, whihc our media is not reporting. Ergo, it's not a big campaign issue. This election has been much more focused on domestic policy. Which honestly, neither candidate, is going to be able to change much. Economically I think Romney would be the better choice in terms of confidence. I think Obama is the better choice from a foreign policy perspective, and his, while on the surface seems good....is not that good at all.

Obama is a weak President overall, but he still might be a better choice than Romney.
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Old 10-03-2012, 10:00 AM   #8
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Obama is a weak President overall, but he still might be a better choice than Romney.
We have reached a point where there are more people in the wagon (Obama voters) than pulling the wagon (Romney voters). Major Corporations and small business owners realize that Obama will probably be re-elected and are preparing to survive another four years of Obama's self destruction of the American economy. Cash will be hoarded and expansion and hiring of new employees will be put on hold. There will be some jobs added as companies rid themselves of older higher paid employees and replace them with desperate employees willing to enter the work force at reduced wage levels.

The chant "Four More Years” will take on a new meaning ...... "Survive Four More Years".
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We have reached a point where there are more people in the wagon (Obama voters) than pulling the wagon (Romney voters). Major Corporations and small business owners realize that Obama will probably be re-elected and are preparing to survive another four years of Obama's self destruction of the American economy. Cash will be hoarded and expansion and hiring of new employees will be put on hold. There will be some jobs added as companies rid themselves of older higher paid employees and replace them with desperate employees willing to enter the work force at reduced wage levels.

The chant "Four More Years” will take on a new meaning ...... "Survive Four More Years".
I think lost in all this is actually what you pointed out. With Obama, there is a number of uncertain-business-owners on the side effects of his policies relative to domestic policy that cause an inability to make good business assumptions. They feel they can't plan ahead accurately, so in the absence of confidence they are hoarding captial which is inhibiting private sector job growth.

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Old 10-03-2012, 10:33 AM   #10
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We have reached a point where there are more people in the wagon (Obama voters) than pulling the wagon (Romney voters). Major Corporations and small business owners realize that Obama will probably be re-elected and are preparing to survive another four years of Obama's self destruction of the American economy. Cash will be hoarded and expansion and hiring of new employees will be put on hold. There will be some jobs added as companies rid themselves of older higher paid employees and replace them with desperate employees willing to enter the work force at reduced wage levels.

The chant "Four More Years” will take on a new meaning ...... "Survive Four More Years".
What, in your opinion, was the effect of Bush's policies on the economy?
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:07 AM   #11
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What, in your opinion, was the effect of Bush's policies on the economy?
They deny the existence of GWB, and can't explain what it is that Obama has done to ruin the economy. He just has!
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:15 AM   #12
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* My answer is "yes" and "no." (What a special snowflake* I am!)

I don't intend to watch it live because nothing either one of them will say can change my mind at this point and I have more important things to do.

However, I'm sure I'll be bombarded with endless replays of this thing ad nauseum for several days to come, so I'll wind up watching most of it whether I want to or not.
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What, in your opinion, was the effect of Bush's policies on the economy?
I think this breaks down in the 4 areas:

Medicare D
The Wars
The creation of the DHS - and the infrastrucutre projects to secure locations like the Federal Reserves and Airports based on 9/11
And the proclaimation to increase homeownership via Fanny and Freddy

3 have some positive attributes, but all are mostly negative right? But some of these are the direct result of getting attacked by Muslims on our own soil. And I won't fault the President for responding in what they believed was the best course of action.
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Old 10-03-2012, 12:45 PM   #14
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Yes. I will be taking shots every time Romney attacks Obama, but doesn't offer a solution himself. Fully expect to be loaded thirty minutes into the debate.
Holy ****, this is a great idea! Maybe I'll do a swig of beer every time Obama says "Look...", and a shot every time Romney does that.
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* My answer is "yes" and "no." (What a special snowflake* I am!)

I don't intend to watch it live because nothing either one of them will say can change my mind at this point and I have more important things to do.

However, I'm sure I'll be bombarded with endless replays of this thing ad nauseum for several days to come, so I'll wind up watching most of it whether I want to or not.
I think that's why I set my DVR. I don't want to watch it live. I don't, however, want to rely on carefully crafted debate snippets. I want to be able to see their comments, in context...
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Old 10-03-2012, 02:03 PM   #16
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We have reached a point where there are more people in the wagon (Obama voters) than pulling the wagon (Romney voters). Major Corporations and small business owners realize that Obama will probably be re-elected and are preparing to survive another four years of Obama's self destruction of the American economy. Cash will be hoarded and expansion and hiring of new employees will be put on hold. There will be some jobs added as companies rid themselves of older higher paid employees and replace them with desperate employees willing to enter the work force at reduced wage levels.

The chant "Four More Years” will take on a new meaning ...... "Survive Four More Years".
Where, exactly, is this planet you live on?
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Old 10-03-2012, 02:33 PM   #17
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Holy ****, this is a great idea! Maybe I'll do a swig of beer every time Obama says "Look...", and a shot every time Romney does that.
I say do a shot for every time a candidate says, "The fact is..."

Or every time they do that weird little "power thumb" thing.
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I think lost in all this is actually what you pointed out. With Obama, there is a number of uncertain-business-owners on the side effects of his policies relative to domestic policy that cause an inability to make good business assumptions. They feel they can't plan ahead accurately, so in the absence of confidence they are hoarding captial which is inhibiting private sector job growth.
Never in the history of our nation has anyone been able to count on things staying the same for more than a few months at a time.

It's an impossibility given the nature of our government -- and it's a bull**** excuse the R's a using to try to shore up the utter fail that is trickle down policy.

The only way capital will be expended is if people think there will be an ROI, and in order for there to be an ROI there has to be demand for a good or product. Minor changes in tax policy (which is the only thing ever talked about) has never, and will never stop people from trying to find ROI on their capital.
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Where's the option: "I can't avert my eyes from this train wreck."
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I'm more interested in Factcheck.org tomorrow.
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I'm tired, and sore, and pissed off, and know who I'm voting for, unless Obama pledges to fire Cathy. And also pledges to give me 1 hour of uninterrupted time to chew her ass out. Then he'll get my vote.

With one eye I'll be watching and with the other I'll be on the computer trying to figure out how to improve my fantasy teams.

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@ Romney admitting to wanting to get rid of PBS and shipping jobs overseas in front of 60 million people.
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Hate to admit it but I thought Romney clearly "won" the early part of the debate. Let's see if Obama picks it up.
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Mittens said he needs a new accountant after Obama said that companies get tax cuts for shipping jobs overseas.he said that it wasn't true.oops

http://abcnews.go.com/m/blogEntry?id=16816660
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What ridiculous false equivalence.

"You spent $90B on green jobs, that would have hired 2 million teachers!"

Mr. Romney, are you suggesting the federal government spend $90B more on hiring teachers? Because if so, I'm for that plan.
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