What's That Sound? - Page 4 - The Orange Mane

TheElusiveKyleOrton · 10-02-2012, 08:05 AM

You've gotta give him a shot. If you're already not completing 50%, you're not losing anything. Maybe he'll spark something on that dumpster fire of a team.

Old Dude · 10-02-2012, 08:19 AM

How does that saying go?

This is like deja vu, all over again.

vancejohnson82 · 10-02-2012, 08:46 AM

If he takes that team over and gets to the tourney, I don't want Denver to have to play him

Drunken.Broncoholic · 10-02-2012, 08:49 AM

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If he takes that team over and gets to the tourney, I don't want Denver to have to play him

I would. No way would he put up enough points.

ColoradoDarin · 10-02-2012, 08:58 AM

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I would. No way would he put up enough points.

You missed the playoff game against the Steelers last year, didn't you?

TonyR · 10-02-2012, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ColoradoDarin

You missed the playoff game against the Steelers last year, didn't you?

The aberration of all aberrations.

ColoradoDarin · 10-02-2012, 09:10 AM

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The aberration of all aberrations.

That's not the point. The point is, he *is* capable of doing so, No?

Beantown Bronco · 10-02-2012, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ColoradoDarin

You missed the playoff game against the Steelers last year, didn't you?

Cause Denver's really going to play the same scheme Pitt did.....New England laid out the blueprint, and did it with a defense that was statistically one of the worst in the league. Just play him straight up and confine him to the pocket. Make him beat you with his arm, while playing coverage and not selling out with dumb zero blitzes.

Drunken.Broncoholic · 10-02-2012, 09:17 AM

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You missed the playoff game against the Steelers last year, didn't you?

You mean the one that went into overtime to score 29 points? 23 points wouldn't be enough for him this year. Especially considering how bad the jets defense is.

ColoradoDarin · 10-02-2012, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

Cause Denver's really going to play the same scheme Pitt did.....New England laid out the blueprint, and did it with a defense that was statistically one of the worst in the league. Just play him straight up and confine him to the pocket. Make him beat you with his arm, while playing coverage and not selling out with dumb zero blitzes.

I was also thinking about Tebow's first start where he dropped 300 yards passing on Houston.

ColoradoDarin · 10-02-2012, 09:18 AM

I'm not saying he *would* just that he *could*

Heyzeus, you girls get your panties wadded quickly.

Beantown Bronco · 10-02-2012, 09:18 AM

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I was also thinking about Tebow's first start where he dropped 300 yards passing on Houston.

The #32 ranked pass defense at the time? The one that was literally considered one of the worst in NFL history? And before anyone had any real film on him?

BroncoBeavis · 10-02-2012, 09:21 AM

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Eddie Royal would be the best WR on the JETS and he was a role player last year

They don't have any playmakers. Tebow running around would be their best option.

I would be really fun to watch

I say start him now

This.

Sanchez does suck. But even given that, the Jets don't have the tools to make him better. Tebow's the only thing in the arsenal that can change things around enough to give their D a chance to hang around.

The parallels to last year are pretty crazy.

ColoradoDarin · 10-02-2012, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

The #32 ranked pass defense at the time? The one that was literally considered one of the worst in NFL history? And before anyone had any real film on him?

See:

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Originally Posted by ColoradoDarin

I'm not saying he *would* just that he *could*

Heyzeus, you girls get your panties wadded quickly.

Drunken.Broncoholic · 10-02-2012, 09:27 AM

I hear what your saying about would and could, but there is nothing I see that says he could. Broncos defense helped him out in that Pitt game a little bit, but the jets defense is a mess. 23 points isn't enough. I don't see anything in his play this year that leads me to believe he can score even 1 point. Which he hasn't done as a jet in preseason or regular season.

DBroncos4life · 10-02-2012, 09:53 AM

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That's not the point. The point is, he *is* capable of doing so, No?

Sanchez has taken this team to the AFC championship game twice. No need to pull him I guess.

razorwire77 · 10-02-2012, 10:09 AM

Rex Grossman played in a Superbowl. It's more like Sanchez was taken to the AFC championship twice. He's also regressed each of the past two years. Mark Sanchez is a younger, more mobile Kyle Orton. Not a bad guy to have as a backup, but not the guy. As far as Tebow goes, my guess is he starts by week six or so, the Jets continue to tank and they finish 5-11/6-10 ish. Rex gets one more year and drafts a QB to replace Sanchez. Tebow continues to be a slash type player. Or Rex gets ****canned, in which case the new regime gets rid of both Sanchez and Tebow and starts fresh with a rookie.

BroncoBeavis · 10-02-2012, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

The #32 ranked pass defense at the time? The one that was literally considered one of the worst in NFL history? And before anyone had any real film on him?

I love the biggest dismisser of the PIT game last year suddenly stretching back to the good ol' Pass-D rankings.

Tombstone RJ · 10-02-2012, 10:15 AM

There's still a lot of football left to be played. If Rex is any kind of a coach (and I personally don't like the Ryan brothers as coaches) he will get this team turned around. Believe it or not, they do have some talent. Sure, Revis is out for the year but every team suffers from injuries so that's really not a valid excuse to suck.

This is on Ryan. This is where a real coach, a real leader, makes the difference between a winning season and a chaotic mess.

Beantown Bronco · 10-02-2012, 10:20 AM

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I love the biggest dismisser of the PIT game last year suddenly stretching back to the good ol' Pass-D rankings.

Wouldn't that be Bill Belichick?

I'm certainly not him.

BroncoBeavis · 10-02-2012, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Drunken.Broncoholic

I hear what your saying about would and could, but there is nothing I see that says he could. Broncos defense helped him out in that Pitt game a little bit,

How so? By giving up 23 points to a team that only averaged 20?

PIT won with defense all year. Until they played us. We put up more passing yards on them than any other team. And more points than most.

Broncoman13 · 10-02-2012, 10:30 AM

I think the Jets will wait as long as possible to put Tebow in... once they do, they're essentially saying that Mark Sanchez is done there. Best case scenario for NY Jets (not wishing it myself) is if Sanchez were to face a small injury that kept him out a game or two. That would be a very convenient excuse much like the circumstances here in Denver.

Drunken.Broncoholic · 10-02-2012, 10:37 AM

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How so? By giving up 23 points to a team that only averaged 20?

PIT won with defense all year. Until they played us. We put up more passing yards on them than any other team. And more points than most.

How so? Well the jets defense would certainly give up more than 23. My point is in saying he couldn't do it based on him AND a jets D. If the jets had a crushing defense then the probability is a bit better. But right now Manning would shred that defense. Aaron berry?

Their pass D was pretty good until Revis goes down

oubronco · 10-02-2012, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ColoradoDarin

You missed the playoff game against the Steelers last year, didn't you?

Tebow will never play against a cover zero defense again

razorwire77 · 10-02-2012, 10:44 AM

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Tebow will never play against a cover zero defense again

And a cover zero that was balls on the table obviously a cover zero. No disguising it, no trying to promote confusion, just flat out daring him to throw, which to Timmy's credit he did. Also, even if Tebow does start and teams do go cover zero against him, it's not like the Jets have a receiver with Demaryius' size, speed, strength metrics.

10-02-2012, 08:05 AM	#76
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10-02-2012, 08:19 AM	#77
Old Dude Host Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: As if I'd tell you crazies! Posts: 14,153	How does that saying go? This is like deja vu, all over again.

10-02-2012, 08:46 AM	#78
vancejohnson82 Drama and Mediocrity I'm Afraid of Ty Law Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Newark, NJ Posts: 5,990 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ	If he takes that team over and gets to the tourney, I don't want Denver to have to play him

10-02-2012, 09:18 AM	#86
ColoradoDarin Ring of Famer AFCW Champs! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: St Augustine, FL Posts: 5,524 Adopt-a-Bronco: Knowshon's Shoe	I'm not saying he would just that he could Heyzeus, you girls get your panties wadded quickly.

10-02-2012, 09:27 AM	#90
Drunken.Broncoholic Steppin on feet Pickled in Orange and Blue Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Carmel Ca Posts: 6,260 Adopt-a-Bronco: LeLo Lang	I hear what your saying about would and could, but there is nothing I see that says he could. Broncos defense helped him out in that Pitt game a little bit, but the jets defense is a mess. 23 points isn't enough. I don't see anything in his play this year that leads me to believe he can score even 1 point. Which he hasn't done as a jet in preseason or regular season.

10-02-2012, 10:09 AM	#92
razorwire77 Tapenade Swagga Splotchy Headed Assassin Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 3,265 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mario Fannin	Rex Grossman played in a Superbowl. It's more like Sanchez was taken to the AFC championship twice. He's also regressed each of the past two years. Mark Sanchez is a younger, more mobile Kyle Orton. Not a bad guy to have as a backup, but not the guy. As far as Tebow goes, my guess is he starts by week six or so, the Jets continue to tank and they finish 5-11/6-10 ish. Rex gets one more year and drafts a QB to replace Sanchez. Tebow continues to be a slash type player. Or Rex gets ****canned, in which case the new regime gets rid of both Sanchez and Tebow and starts fresh with a rookie.

10-02-2012, 10:15 AM	#94
Tombstone RJ Ring of Famer Old School Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In the Tetons! Posts: 19,286 Adopt-a-Bronco: WorrellWilliams	There's still a lot of football left to be played. If Rex is any kind of a coach (and I personally don't like the Ryan brothers as coaches) he will get this team turned around. Believe it or not, they do have some talent. Sure, Revis is out for the year but every team suffers from injuries so that's really not a valid excuse to suck. This is on Ryan. This is where a real coach, a real leader, makes the difference between a winning season and a chaotic mess.

10-02-2012, 10:30 AM	#97
Broncoman13 Broncoholic JT #80 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 16,961 Adopt-a-Bronco: Orange Julius	I think the Jets will wait as long as possible to put Tebow in... once they do, they're essentially saying that Mark Sanchez is done there. Best case scenario for NY Jets (not wishing it myself) is if Sanchez were to face a small injury that kept him out a game or two. That would be a very convenient excuse much like the circumstances here in Denver.