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Old 09-28-2012, 09:10 AM   #951
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Mike Scioscia should be fired.

And the real crime is Mike Trout will not win the MVP now.
Just absolutely criminal.
If Mike Trout doesn't win the MVP, him batting .284 in August and .247 in September will have had a lot to do with it.

Miguel Cabrera batting .326 with 42 HRs and 133 RBIs and vying for the Triple Crown into the last week of the season would also have something to do with it.

Mike Trout could still win the MVP Award....but if he doesn't, I wouldn't sweat it, as I'm sure he will win multiple MVP Awards during his career if he stays healthy and keep his head on straight, which he should, as he sounds like a good kid.
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I wouldn't be so quick to want to kick Mike Scioscia to the curb either.

I think he is one of the best managers in baseball.

I realize the Angels haven't met expectations the last few seasons, but I still think he is a great manager.

That said, I don't watch them every day.

Is there a chance he gets fired?

If so, he will be out of work for about 15 seconds.
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Old 09-28-2012, 09:33 AM   #953
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If Mike Trout doesn't win the MVP, him batting .284 in August and .247 in September will have had a lot to do with it.

Miguel Cabrera batting .326 with 42 HRs and 133 RBIs and vying for the Triple Crown into the last week of the season would also have something to do with it.

Mike Trout could still win the MVP Award....but if he doesn't, I wouldn't sweat it, as I'm sure he will win multiple MVP Awards during his career if he stays healthy and keep his head on straight, which he should, as he sounds like a good kid.
I think this quote from Sports Illustrated sums it up.
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If you believe in impacting games in more ways more often than anybody else, Trout is your MVP. If you believe in the greater volume of hitting stats, particularly down the stretch, Cabrera is your man.
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Old 09-28-2012, 09:38 AM   #954
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I wouldn't be so quick to want to kick Mike Scioscia to the curb either.

I think he is one of the best managers in baseball.

I realize the Angels haven't met expectations the last few seasons, but I still think he is a great manager.

That said, I don't watch them every day.

Is there a chance he gets fired?

If so, he will be out of work for about 15 seconds.
Its been a long decade since the Angels have done anything.
Mike has worn out his welcome with alot of the fans, however he signed a big deal last year, and Arte likes him. But theres a prertty big outcry right now for his head.
He allowed the bullpen to fall apart, he never got it fixed, and CJ Wilson has been the bust of the century. Just absolutely pathetic.
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:11 AM   #955
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Sometimes when a manager stays in one place too long, the message gets stale.

Maybe that's what is happening with Mike Scioscia.
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:24 AM   #956
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So we lost and the Tigers won.........again.

Since its obviously over at this point, I want to congratulate good guys SSJ and houghtam on their division title. Good luck to you in the postseason. I think if Max Scherzer is healthy, the Tigers could do some real damage.
Well said, good luck in the playoffs guys.
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Old 09-28-2012, 06:39 PM   #957
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Reds Homer Bailey with a no-hitter tonight.

I remember the hype surrounding him when they drafted him in 2004, my last year working for the Reds. Good night for my adopted NL team.
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WS going to make Detroit sweat the whole way, pull back to within one game of the division beating the Rays 3-1
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Old 09-28-2012, 10:09 PM   #959
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Yep....I'm not getting excited yet.

A lot can happen in the next 5 games.

Justin Verlander is on the mound tomorrow.

JV needs to go out there like the franchise pitcher he is and lock up a win.
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Old 09-28-2012, 11:03 PM   #960
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Jered Weaver became the American League's first 20-game winner, Mike Trout hit a leadoff homer, and the Angels beat Texas 7-4 on Friday night to prevent the Rangers from clinching a playoff berth.
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Old 09-29-2012, 05:33 AM   #961
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here's a scenario that could result in alot of drama... if i understand the new tiebreaker rules correctly.

lets say the Yanks and O's and A's are tied with the same record at the end of the season and that record also ensures that 2 of these 3 teams will end up with the 2 wildcard spots. there would be a 1 game playoff between the O's and Yanks to see which team wins the AL East. the loser would then play the A's in a 1 game playoff to determine which team gets the #1 wildcard spot. then they would play again in the 1 game wildcard playoff.
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I wouldn't be so quick to want to kick Mike Scioscia to the curb either.

I think he is one of the best managers in baseball.

I realize the Angels haven't met expectations the last few seasons, but I still think he is a great manager.

That said, I don't watch them every day.

Is there a chance he gets fired?

If so, he will be out of work for about 15 seconds.
Socalorado is jumping the gun big time. WHile there are fans that think his time has come if the Angels dont make the postseason, it isnt overwhelming. It is a valid point but Mike Butcher, our pitching coach, wasn't doing his job like Hatcher who got canned as hitting coach. Look at your former pitcher Rodney who is killing it in Tampa. Why didnt Butcher work with him last year?
If Scioscia gets fired, you can expect the Red Sox or Cleveland to hire him in 15 minutes....it takes time to sign a contract.
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Old 09-29-2012, 03:30 PM   #963
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Ichiro has been on a roll lately and is batting .330 with the Yankees.

He's had 209 at bats with the Yankees, so I think that's a decent enough sample size to show he can still play some ball.

He's also been making some plays with his glove and still has an above average glove and arm.

Ichiro will end the season with over 2,600 career hits.

He wants to hit the 3,000 mark and they way he has played with the Yankees, I think he will get there.

He needs to go to a team where he is surrounded with some bats in the lineup.

I wonder if the Yankees will try and sign him to a one or two year deal after the season is over?
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Old 09-29-2012, 03:41 PM   #964
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BOOM!

Miggy with a 3 run blast to give the Tigers a 6-0 lead in the 8th inning.

That's his 43rd HR on the season, tying him with Josh Hamilton again and back in contention for the Triple Crown.

Miggy is batting .327 with 43 HRs and 136 RBIs.

Prince Fielder also hit his 29th HR on the season.

More importantly, the Tigers are winning 6-0 and the White Sox are losing 7-0 to Tampa Bay.

Justin Verlander came up clutch today with 7 innings of shutout baseball.

7 innings 4 hits 0 ERs 2 BB and 8 Ks.

JV is out of the game now....the bullpen better not **** up a 6 run lead.
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BOOM!

Miggy with a 3 run blast to give the Tigers a 6-0 lead in the 8th inning.

That's his 43rd HR on the season, tying him with Josh Hamilton again and back in contention for the Triple Crown.

Miggy is batting .327 with 43 HRs and 136 RBIs.

Prince Fielder also hit his 29th HR on the season.

More importantly, the Tigers are winning 6-0 and the White Sox are losing 7-0 to Tampa Bay.

Justin Verlander came up clutch today with 7 innings of shutout baseball.

7 innings 4 hits 0 ERs 2 BB and 8 Ks.

JV is out of the game now....the bullpen better not **** up a 6 run lead.
Aaaaaaand Benoit does his best to blow it.

Jesus H. Christ what a year. This has got to be my worst year for sports ever.
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here's a scenario that could result in alot of drama... if i understand the new tiebreaker rules correctly.

lets say the Yanks and O's and A's are tied with the same record at the end of the season and that record also ensures that 2 of these 3 teams will end up with the 2 wildcard spots. there would be a 1 game playoff between the O's and Yanks to see which team wins the AL East. the loser would then play the A's in a 1 game playoff to determine which team gets the #1 wildcard spot. then they would play again in the 1 game wildcard playoff.
Nope. The tie between the Os and Yanks is considered a regular season game and therefore the loser would be 1/2 game out of the #1 spot. They would travel for that one game playoff.

At least that is how I always read it before this season and no way they make a team play 2 tiebreakers especially the 2nd one just to see where the game is played.
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Aaaaaaand Benoit does his best to blow it.

Jesus H. Christ what a year. This has got to be my worst year for sports ever.
The Tigers better hold on to this lead.

You blow a 6-0 lead in the 8th inning of a playoff race and you don't deserve to win the division and get into the playoffs.

6-4 in the 9th inning.

When Jose Valverde comes out for bottom of the 9th inning, I'll have my sphincter clenched tighter than I would for a first shower in prison.
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Nope. The tie between the Os and Yanks is considered a regular season game and therefore the loser would be 1/2 game out of the #1 spot. They would travel for that one game playoff.

At least that is how I always read it before this season and no way they make a team play 2 tiebreakers especially the 2nd one just to see where the game is played.
That's how I read it too. A one game playoff for a division title is considered a 163rd regular season game, as referenced by the 2009 game between the Twins and Tigers. The official final regular season records of those teams are 87-76/86-77...163 games.
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Tigers hold on to win 6-4.

Looks like the White Sox will lose....and the division lead will be back to 2 games.

4 games left in the regular season.

Justin Verlander notched his 17th win on the season.

He hasn't been as dominant as last year, but also hasn't gotten as much run support.

17-8 on the season with an ERA of 2.64.

Verlander leads the majors in innings pitched (238.1), strikeouts (239), and WAR (7.2).

That said, I don't have any issue with Jered Weaver winning the CY Young Award this season.

Weaver has tossed a no-no, and is 20-4 with an ERA of 2.74.

A lot of writers have said they will vote for Verlander (and I hope he does) and you could make a case for him, as he leads the majors in a lot of categories, but I won't kick the dog if Jered Weaver or David Price wins it this season.

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BTW houghtam....what did you do when you worked for the Reds?
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BTW houghtam....what did you do when you worked for the Reds?
Pssh, that was way back when I was in college, so I was just a lowly beer vendor. Best. Job. Ever.

10% commission on every beer you sell plus tips. At the end of the year, they raised your commission 1% per 5 games you worked over 60, up to 15% retroactive toward all sales at the end of the season.

Opening Day you could clear $250 in commission and $350 in tips. Not bad for three hours of work. Anyone attending college in a city with a professional sports team, I would suggest doing that over getting a real job.
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That's cool....I bet it made you still feel like part of the organization.
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That's cool....I bet it made you still feel like part of the organization.
Not that so much as being poor, having no television and little internet access, so only having the Reds to follow. Besides you generally get to know regulars, and you have to pretend to like their team if they're going to remain your regulars. So I suppose it was more of a Stockholm Syndrome type of adoption.
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"I want to talk about the team," said Cabrera, batting .444 with four homers and 15 RBIs during an 11-game hitting streak in Minnesota. "There's too many distractions right now and been talking too much about triple crowns. I pull too much attention. I don't want to do that. I want to go out there and play my game."



I'm not even sure any of us can appreciate how big a distraction this must be, and how heavy a weight it is on Cabrera's shoulders. I mean honestly, this is an achievement that hasn't been earned in 45 years, and it's not like it's some obscure record like Darwin Barney the other night shooting for Polanco's errorless streak record.

This is a prestigious achievement, and Cabrera's got to be feeling it. I really hope he pulls it out. As a baseball fan, I kinda feel like I do when I'm watching a perfect game, no matter who's pitching. It's good for the game to see it happen.
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Nice to see the Tigers winning games down the stretch.

I'm not jumping up and down yet, as some weird **** could happen....but I'm feeling pretty good about our chances with 3 games left in the regular season.
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