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Old 09-14-2012, 01:59 PM   #26
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A "True Liberal" would be every bit as unellectable as a "True Conservative".. and for exactly the same reasons.

The President will always be a centrist.

Deal with it.
But...but...but...I thought Obama was a "socialist...?"

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Factcheckers themselves can be bull****ters. I think a true test of that (besides going through the list of claimed lies) would be if the same factcheckers have looked at other candidates. If they haven't, I think its indicative. This very much seems to be the case with Benen. Cheerleaders have been known to try to pass themselves off as fact checkers.

Benen's bio is that he's a producer for the Rachel Maddow show and has been a guest on several liberal programs. I certainly wouldn't take such claims on face value, especially from someone with that kind of pedigree. Smells of politics.
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Old 09-15-2012, 02:13 PM   #28
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But...but...but...I thought Obama was a "socialist...?"
When you're a red diaper baby with a swarm of such types as your associates well into adulthood including in your political activities, you really aren't on footing to question why people would suspect you're a socialist.

Instead of admitting his extensive participation in Chicago's socialist political scene and saying he's rejected that position, he instead denies it whole-cloth and waters it down with vague descriptors such as "community organizer." This lack of candor of course speaks volumes. You can't do that and wonder why people are suspicious.
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This is what happens when you get your "information" from Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck.
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Old 09-15-2012, 05:02 PM   #30
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This is what happens when you get your "information" from Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck.
^ This is what you say when you know it and won't admit it...

Or you don't do your homework.

Either way, my pity goes out to you, sir.
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^ This is what you say when you know it and won't admit it...

Or you don't do your homework.

Either way, my pity goes out to you, sir.
Yeah, you got me.

I just had a conversation with an empty chair, and not only do I now know Obama is a socialist and a Marxist - I know he's a Muslim from Kenya.
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Yeah, you got me.

I just had a conversation with an empty chair, and not only do I now know Obama is a socialist and a Marxist - I know he's a Muslim from Kenya.
Yes, topic changing is a general sign of being had.
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Yes, topic changing is a general sign of being had.
L0L @ you thinking you were presenting a "topic."
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Yeah, you got me.

I just had a conversation with an empty chair, and not only do I now know Obama is a socialist and a Marxist - I know he's a Muslim from Kenya.
I heard from FB that he is also a ****er.
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I heard from FB that he is also a ****er.
I'm sure you'd have also heard that in a black neighborhood as well, if you'd ever been to one.
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Seems Willard's character defects extend well beyond being a mere habitual liar...

Sat Sep 22, 2012 at 01:09 PM PDT

Updatedx3: Romney Univision tantrum part of pattern, including 1981 arrest for disorderly conduct



As mentioned here, there is a trending twitter theme about the temper tantrum a Republican said Mitt Romney threw at the recent Univision taping. Here is the Buzzfeed snippet.
Romney took issue with the anchors beginning the broadcast that way, said Salinas, and he refused to go on stage until they re-taped the introduction. (One Republican present at the taping said Romney "threw a tantrum.")
Five years ago Romney got caught in a lie by Glen Johnson of AP and angrily approached Johnson after the presser was over.

As Keith Olbermann noted later, Johnson was completely correct about the fact that Romney was telling a bold-faced lie. Eric Fernstrom tried to end the presser abruptly and afterward accused Johnson of being unprofessional. Yes, pointing it out when Romney tells a lie is... "unprofessional." The embed code of that video has been disabled by request (wonder whose request that was?) but here is the link. Note the anger on Romney's face when challenging Johnson. More below the squiggly orange fold.

As I wrote earlier here, Mitt Romney lost his cool multiple times during the time he was in charge of the 2002 Winter Olympics. There was one incident where he blew up at a teenager charged with directing traffic:
Romney found himself stuck in a huge traffic backup on the road to the men’s downhill ski area, because some buses had not received the proper security-clearance placards and were being prevented from proceeding. Romney, who had organized the Salt Lake Olympics, jumped out to take charge. He started directing traffic, over the objections of a sheriff’s deputy, Kodi Taggart; she later filed a report on Romney’s interference. And he lit into an 18-year-old volunteering as a security officer, Shaun Knopp. Knopp told reporters that Romney had asked “who the ****” he was and “what the ****” he was doing and had then told him, “We got the Olympics going on, and we don’t need this **** going on.” Romney denied this at the time, saying he had not used such language since high school. “I would not, have not, and never would use the f-word,” he said. The worst word he used with Knopp, he said, was “H-E double hockey sticks.” ....

In the days after the incident, the state’s top law enforcement official decided against an investigation. But the officer in charge of security at the downhill site, Weber County Sheriff’s Office Captain Terry Shaw, said a police sergeant from Colorado working under his command had corroborated Knopp’s account, and Shaw demanded an apology from Romney.
This incident put Romney at odds with those in public safety positions:
Police were angered that Romney denied shouting the expletive and were further miffed when Romney later offered a partial apology to a sheriff's captain but not to Knopp. ''There were a lot of people in public safety who were extremely angry,'' said Peter Dawson, a lawyer today who served as an intern in a communications center at the time. ''The general consensus was, 'I hope he doesn't need any help from us because we aren't going to respond very quickly.'.''
Romney also had "clashes" with others while at Salt Lake, times when he seemed more menacing, and times that bring to memory previous stories like his attack of a fellow student.
Romney tolerated little dissent from trustees who aggressively questioned his decisions. While his many admirers in Salt Lake City viewed him as pristine, amiable, and self-effacing, he developed an alternate image among a group of dissenters: petty, vindictive, and self-aggrandizing. His chief foe was Ken Bullock - no relation to Romney's friend and COO Fraser Bullock. Ken Bullock served on the organizing committee and also was executive director of the Utah League of Cities and Towns.
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Garff, the organizing committee chairman whose association with Romney went back to childhood, believed Romney inappropriately tried to silence Bullock.

''Mitt saw him as an agitator,'' Garff said, ''and I saw him as a watchdog who needed to be heard.''

Romney showed little sympathy for another trustee who criticized his performance. When Lillian Taylor, a small-business consultant, questioned why the committee continued to retain a pricey law firm that had acknowledged losing documents related to the scandal, Romney, who at the time said he had no problem with her raising the issue, sat silently while the board's attorney aggressively dismissed her complaint.

Yahoo News notes four other episodes, including a 1981 arrest for disorderly conduct:
In 1981, Romney was putting the family boat into Lake Cochituate, an hour outside of Boston, when a park officer told him he couldn't because the license looked painted over. If he launched, he'd face a $50 fine. "I was willing to pay the fine," Romney told The Boston Globe. But the officer returned as Romney put the boat in and, visibly angry at being ignored, handcuffed Mitt, who was "dripping wet in a bathing suit," and booked him for disorderly conduct. Romney contested the arrest in court, threatened to sue, and got the arrest dismissed and sealed.
The other three events mentioned in the Yahoo News article included Putting Rick Perry in a "Vulcan neck pinch," Sparring with party rockers LMFAO, and yelling at a radio host over his gay marriage record. There is also the attack on his classmate in 1965 when Romney was in prep school. That story is here.

And those are just the stories we know about.

Video at link...
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it all goes back to the age old joke what does it matter..

nobama has not been a paragon of telling the truth..


How do you know if a politician is lying?.




His mouth is moving..
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I'm sure you'd have also heard that in a black neighborhood as well, if you'd ever been to one.

I guess you never read the article associated with the cover have you?
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nobama has not been a paragon of telling the truth..
You're a one-man idiotic false equivalence generating machine.
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Remember when Obama told 533 lies in 30 weeks and lonestar documented them?

No?

That's because it didn't happen.
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Lying must come naturally to this guy. Then to top it off, he now accuses his opponent of doing just the thing he does with unflinching regularity. Unbelievable!


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"One ad after another of his ad statements has been determined to be factually inaccurate," Romney said. "And you know I understand that politics is politics but in the past, when you've had an ad which has been roundly pointed out to be wrong you take it out and you correct it and put something back on. He keeps running these things even though he knows they're wrong and saying them in rallies, even though he knows they're wrong."

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Lying must come naturally to this guy. Then to top it off, he now accuses his opponent of doing just the thing he does with unflinching regularity. Unbelievable!
Consistency is not one of Romney's strong points, to be sarcastic about it. The guy has shown over the last twenty years a propensity for saying whatever fits the occasion. If it will accomplish the goal of getting him elected, it doesn't really matter. It's all just one big Etch-A-Sketch. He's kind of the opposite of the Man for All Seasons. He has no principles whatsoever, so he can go with whatever happens. The "Whatever" candidate.
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Lying must come naturally to this guy. Then to top it off, he now accuses his opponent of doing just the thing he does with unflinching regularity. Unbelievable!
Actually Obama admitted to it on 60 Minutes. But as usual, the liberals missed that one.
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Actually Obama admitted to it on 60 Minutes. But as usual, the liberals missed that one.
Admitted to what? I watched the interviews on 60 Minutes last night. I can't recall that Obama admitted to lying about anything.
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Remember when Obama told 533 lies in 30 weeks and lonestar documented them?

No?

That's because it didn't happen.
They both believe lying is necessary to achieve their goals.


Obama Laundry List of Lies
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They both believe lying is necessary to achieve their goals.


Obama Laundry List of Lies
The site you linked also has a section called "Obama & Socialist Party."

What a joke!
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Admitted to what? I watched the interviews on 60 Minutes last night. I can't recall that Obama admitted to lying about anything.
Ah, because 60 Minutes decided to mysteriously omit the part when he admits all campaigns, including his own embellish and distort things. But I know, CBS is unbiased. You can find the part they decided to cut on the net, but most liberals will just pretend it didn't happen. About time to talk about Romney's dog.
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Ah, because 60 Minutes decided to mysteriously omit the part when he admits all campaigns, including his own embellish and distort things. But I know, CBS is unbiased. You can find the part they decided to cut on the net, but most liberals will just pretend it didn't happen. About time to talk about Romney's dog.
Why don't you for once, provide a link to your source?
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