Vote suppression all the rage.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

If you pander to racial identity voting blocks, it goes without saying you then pander to them based on race on the issues. Is this very difficult for you?

His claim had nothing to do with "pandering" to any group.

His claim was that "liberals inject race into every issue."

This distinction is obviously too difficult for you.

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

I'm not surprised a liberal would think media pundits are leaders of a political movement. After all, that's basically who theirs are.

Right on cue with your usual "I am rubber - you are glue" comeback, eh DramaLlama?

Your party has been hijacked by the extreme right, i.e., the same folks who hang on Rehab Rush's every word.

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

His claim had nothing to do with "pandering" to any group.

His claim was that "liberals inject race into every issue."

This distinction is obviously too difficult for you.

On the one hand you deny that liberals pander to racial grievance identity voting groups... Then in the next post you insinuate yes they do and so what, after all, these groups are oppressed and **** - without bothering to qualify the statement.

Right on cue with your usual "I am rubber - you are glue" comeback, eh DramaLlama?

Your party has been hijacked by the extreme right, i.e., the same folks who hang on Rehab Rush's every word.

Uh, yeah. I need to meet this DramaLlama dude. If he's this much like me, I gotta get to know this guy.

If you think the GOP establishment is that far right, you're that far left. But I already know that.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

On the one hand you deny that liberals pander to racial grievance identity voting groups... Then in the next post you insinuate yes they do and so what, after all, these groups are oppressed and **** - without bothering to qualify the statement.

And in what nutty, private universe did this happen?

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

If you think the GOP establishment is that far right, you're that far left. But I already know that.

Eisenhower (and even Nixon) wouldn't recognize today's TeaPublican Party.

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

And in what nutty, private universe did this happen?

Denying it won't make it go away, but whatever. Maybe you can bribe the admins in to erasing it?

Eisenhower (and even Nixon) wouldn't recognize today's TeaPublican Party.

Nuh huh. I was that far left once, so I know where your mentality arises.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

Denying it won't make it go away, but whatever. Maybe you can bribe the admins in to erasing it?

Or maybe you could just quote it?






That's what I thought....

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Where "racial identity grievance crowd" = racist code-speak used to deny the existence of racism in America.

On the one hand you deny Democrats woo minorities by pandering on ethnic interest/grievance blocs to deflect criticism that they aren't living up to their "post-racial" supposed ideal, then turn around and justify it by making such ridiculous statements as the above.

As I said, you cannot honestly engage in both.

I shouldn't have to be rehashing this.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

On the one hand you deny Democrats woo minorities by pandering on ethnic interest/grievance blocs to deflect criticism that they aren't living up to their "post-racial" supposed ideal, then turn around and justify it by making such ridiculous statements as the above.

As I said, you cannot honestly engage in both.

I shouldn't have to be rehashing this.

In other words, you're arguing that those "ethnic interest/grievance blocs" (racist code-speak for minorities) have all been lured into voting for Democrats, via "pandering" appeals i.e., it has nothing to do with the GOP's record on issues that matter to those groups?

Thanks for making my case (i.e., that you are a racist) for me.

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

In other words, you're arguing that those "ethnic interest/grievance blocs" (racist code-speak for minorities) have all been lured into voting for Democrats, via "pandering" appeals i.e., it has nothing to do with the GOP's record on issues that matter to those groups?

Thanks for making my case (i.e., that you are a racist) for me.

And this is a clear deflection from the fact that you cannot honestly claim you're post-racial and then first deny and then secondly justify catering to racial anger voting blocs by blaming The Man.

Thus you indirectly concede my point.

Now to the next one. What "record" are you referring to? Clearly the "record" you mean isn't really a record but rather liberal spin.

Here again, as I've stated, you're saying Democrats are post-racial yet racially pander, and that they do so and its effective, is somehow the fault of Republicans.

If you want to unify this country, you don't go out of your way to pander to Balkanizers. They don't have the interests of all of us at heart, they are lined up for their own, are ambivalent of others at the best. You can try to justify this behavior all you like by making the usual unqualified claims of majority oppression, but to anyone with half a brain, it isn't going to fly.

If you don't want domestic policy to be based on a jealousy-driven racial spoils system which contributes to domestic instability, then you need to mend your approach.

The truth is, as I said, that Obama used the post-racial garbage to woo the white vote, and then he turned around and did the usual white-as-oppressor narrative to appease the identity voting crowd.

The fault of you and yours is that you automatically presume the grudges these people have are justified on face value without bothering to investigate them.

Unfortunately there are those within the GOP that have attempted this to a degree, especially with Hispanics. Both parties have been dangling the amnesty carrot to appease them. It's disgusting and it needs to stop.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

And this is a clear deflection from the fact that you cannot honestly claim you're post-racial and then first deny and then secondly justify catering to racial anger voting blocs by blaming The Man.

"Racial anger voting blocs?"

More racist code speak from you.

In any event, thanks for making my point for me.

Your premise is that these groups tend to vote Democrat because the Democratic party "caters" to them.

It's clear that by "cater" racist code speakers like you mean to say "treats the interests of minorities as though they were just as valid or important as the interests of white folks."

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

"Racial anger voting blocs?"

More racist code speak from you.

In any event, thanks for making my point for me.

Your premise is that these groups tend to vote Democrat because the Democratic party "caters" to them.

It's clear that by "cater" racist code speakers like you mean to say "treats the interests of minorities as though they were just as valid or important as the interests of white folks."

How can you say my comment about racial anger voting blocs is both racist codespeak and at the same time justified on their part? Are you both denying and conceding the existence of these blocs?

Which is it?

If the Democratic party didn't cater to such sentiments, they wouldn't be invoked every election cycle.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

How can you say my comment about racial anger voting blocs is both racist codespeak and at the same time justified on their part? Are you both denying and conceding the existence of these blocs?

Which is it?

If the Democratic party didn't cater to such sentiments, they wouldn't be invoked every election cycle.

Looks like you're having another debate with an empty chair.

Your continued use of racial code phrases to describe minorities in one breath while denying your racism in the next would be amusing were it not so repugnant and sad.

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Looks like you're having another debate with an empty chair.

Your continued use of racial code phrases to describe minorities in one breath while denying your racism in the next would be amusing were it not so repugnant and sad.

Fine if you wish to defend liberal policy after denying it by invoking an alleged racial phrase conspiracy theory. Unfortuate, though, as I mentioned last night about your clear inability to venture outside of party-line thinking, you think I was "denying racism." I suppose it would seem so if you're that little a creative thinker. On racial matters, the usual response from the liberals is the one or the other polar opposite false dichotomy, and your posts are no different.

[barryr]

I wonder how much of this goes on and not reported. Another example of that "deep, intelligent" thinking liberals think they possess.

College suspends professor for allegedly attempting to force students to vote for Obama

"A college professor has been placed on leave after she allegedly forced her class to sign a pledge to vote for President Obama in the upcoming elections."

"Early last week Professor Sharon Sweet at Brevard Community College (BCC) allegedly told students to sign a pledge that reads: “I pledge to vote for President Obama and Democrats up and down the ticket.”

"The pledge was printed off of GottaVote.org, a website funded by the Obama campaign."


http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4364

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

Fine if you wish to defend liberal policy after denying it by invoking an alleged racial phrase conspiracy theory. Unfortuate, though, as I mentioned last night about your clear inability to venture outside of party-line thinking, you think I was "denying racism." I suppose it would seem so if you're that little a creative thinker. On racial matters, the usual response from the liberals is the one or the other polar opposite false dichotomy, and your posts are no different.

Your struggles to form coherent thoughts and to express them in the form of reasoned arguments are amusing, I'll give you that.

[nyuk nyuk]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Your struggles to form coherent thoughts and to express them in the form of reasoned arguments are amusing, I'll give you that.

In other words, yet again you lack a response. Most of your posts are one of two things: One-liner insults and canards or retarded cartoons.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

In other words, yet again you lack a response.

What sort of "response" to your inarticulate and incoherent tripe were you expecting?

I suppose the proper response would be "have you tried 'Hooked on Phonics?'"

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

Most of your posts are one of two things: One-liner insults and canards or retarded cartoons.

The shop-worn straw man routine above makes Clint Eastwood's performance at the RNC look like Shakespeare by comparison.

That's how high Fox News sheep like you set the bar for themselves, I guess.

[houghtam]

Pennsylvania voter ID law sent back to lower court

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...a4a_story.html

“We are not satisfied with a mere predictive judgment based primarily on the assurances of government officials, even though we have no doubt they are proceeding in good faith,” the court said in an unsigned opinion.

“If the Commonwealth Court is not still convinced in its predictive judgment that there will be no voter disenfranchisement arising out of the Commonwealth’s implementation of a voter identification requirement for purposes of the upcoming election, that court is obliged to enter a preliminary injunction,” the opinion said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...b7e_story.html

With stories like the one above provided as evidence, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania is going to have a hard time proving that all eligible voters are getting IDs who need them. I would not be surprised at all if this new law gets put down just like the rest of them.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by nyuk nyuk

How can you say my comment about racial anger voting blocs is both racist codespeak and at the same time justified on their part? Are you both denying and conceding the existence of these blocs?

Which is it?

If the Democratic party didn't cater to such sentiments, they wouldn't be invoked every election cycle.

And the Republicans didn't write the book on manipulating voting blocs? Really? The white racist extremist-patriot Christian "values" bloc, for example? Ever hear of flag burning? Gay marriage? Why did Ronald Reagan give his first campaign speech on "states rights" in Philadelphia, Mississippi? You know what happened there in 1964, don't you? Think Reagan might have been sending a little signal to his white brothers in the South?

You're so mis-informed, it's embarrassing.

[Requiem]

There have been a large number of states with Republican controlled state legislatures that have been trying for the past year to restrict voting laws in order to sway the upcoming election in November. One case in particular that hasn't been mentioned in this thread is Florida, where they have tried to get rid of early voting on Sunday's before the election. Why? Because it has been an African-American tradition for well over 5 decades to go from church on Sunday's straight to the voting booth via bus. A large number of African-American's in Florida don't have private vehicles and rely on public transport on Sunday's to get to the polls. If you don't see the blatant discrimination on restrictive voting measures going on in key states in this race, you are kidding yourself.

[Bacchus]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

And the Republicans didn't write the book on manipulating voting blocs? Really? The white racist extremist-patriot Christian "values" bloc, for example? Ever hear of flag burning? Gay marriage? Why did Ronald Reagan give his first campaign speech on "states rights" in Philadelphia, Mississippi? You know what happened there in 1964, don't you? Think Reagan might have been sending a little signal to his white brothers in the South?

You're so mis-informed, it's embarrassing.

Jim Crow laws

[Bacchus]

Originally Posted by Requiem

There have been a large number of states with Republican controlled state legislatures that have been trying for the past year to restrict voting laws in order to sway the upcoming election in November. One case in particular that hasn't been mentioned in this thread is Florida, where they have tried to get rid of early voting on Sunday's before the election. Why? Because it has been an African-American tradition for well over 5 decades to go from church on Sunday's straight to the voting booth via bus. A large number of African-American's in Florida don't have private vehicles and rely on public transport on Sunday's to get to the polls. If you don't see the blatant discrimination on restrictive voting measures going on in key states in this race, you are kidding yourself.

Yes, of course you are right. The Republicans know if everyone votes they cannot win. So instead of being more flexible in their policies they try to get fewer people to vote. Who could forget 2000 when Florida police had roadblocks and check points set up in black neighborhoods? It was all about intimidation and trying to keep them from voting. Rat bastard republicans.

[orinjkrush]

anonymous people voting anonymously. everywhere and always.

yep, the end of the grand experiment is near.

what kind of bizarro world is this?

[houghtam]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

And the Republicans didn't write the book on manipulating voting blocs? Really? The white racist extremist-patriot Christian "values" bloc, for example? Ever hear of flag burning? Gay marriage? Why did Ronald Reagan give his first campaign speech on "states rights" in Philadelphia, Mississippi? You know what happened there in 1964, don't you? Think Reagan might have been sending a little signal to his white brothers in the South?

You're so mis-informed, it's embarrassing.

Woah woah woah, careful there. You're tempting Beavis' dumb ass to come in here and lecture you how integral the Republicans were to the Civil Rights movement. Conveniently leaving out the fact that if the Republicans had truly been champions of civil rights, racists like Strom Thurmond wouldn't have left the Democratic party to join the dark side.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by houghtam

Woah woah woah, careful there. You're tempting Beavis' dumb ass to come in here and lecture you how integral the Republicans were to the Civil Rights movement. Conveniently leaving out the fact that if the Republicans had truly been champions of civil rights, racists like Strom Thurmond wouldn't have left the Democratic party to join the dark side.

Yep.

The average right-winger's history of civil rights in America ends with the Civil Rights Act.