The oakland raiders suck!

[maven]

Originally Posted by Fight_On!

LMAO! Wait little man, so you're saying that I would be afraid to show up on a message board after my favorite team played horribly on national tv? Be real kid....SMH.

All you Fade fans leave. Are you going to break the cycle and support your **** team every week on this board? Would be nice to have a punchbag fade fan here. Keep showing up!

[bowtown]

Originally Posted by Fight_On!

LMAO! Wait little man, so you're saying that I would be afraid to show up on a message board after my favorite team played horribly on national tv? Be real kid....SMH.

You'll be gone by week 4, if not sooner. Different year, same ****.

Originally Posted by maven

All you Fade fans leave. Are you going to break the cycle and support your **** team every week on this board? Would be nice to have a punchbag fade fan here. Keep showing up!

Hmm, so you're the message board tough guy. Lmao, listen little man, I have followed the Raiders for 30+ years. Been through the highs&lows with this team and have faced real rival fans in an arena called life. Showing up on a message board to face message board tough guys like you "ain't no thing but a chicken wing".

[bowtown]

Originally Posted by Fight_On!

Hmm, so you're the message board tough guy. Lmao, listen little man, I have followed the Raiders for 30+ years. Been through the highs&lows with this team and have faced real rival fans in an arena called life. Showing up on a message board to face message board tough guys like you "ain't no thing but a chicken wing".

Come on, give it up. There's no possible way you are over 17.

[maven]

Originally Posted by Fight_On!

Hmm, so you're the message board tough guy. Lmao, listen little man, I have followed the Raiders for 30+ years. Been through the highs&lows with this team and have faced real rival fans in an arena called life. Showing up on a message board to face message board tough guys like you "ain't no thing but a chicken wing".

I am flattered by your comment. Heck, I'm blushing right now.

Yah, your team ****ing sucks as usual. Hope you stick around and support your ****ty team. GL with that dear in the headlights coach of yours.

Internet tough guys. Thanks you two for bringing a smile to my face. Damn! Lmao!

[bronco militia]

Originally Posted by Raider Bill

Just a couple of things... McFadden several times didnt see the seam backside where Veldheer and Carlisle got their guys on the ground and just ran right into the pile. The cutback was there 4 or 5 times he didnt see it.

But it was established years ago that McFadden is at his best in a power blocking system. The difference between his production in a ZBS compared to a PBS is night and day. And a coach has to cater to the ability of his players, something the current regime isn't willing to do. It's idiotic. Getting rid of the offense and special teams from last year was idiotic period. But that's a whole other topic.

I dont see how you can give the guy big money when he has yet to play a full season. And with all the colleges running the inside and outside zone play, 1 cut runners are a dime a dozen.

On this we agree. I don't know if it was possible to trade McFadden for picks but I thought we should have done that (if possible) and kept Bush and Taiwan Jones and then acquired two more RBs and ran a utility back system. The days of the star running back are nearly over because an injury to such a player cripples the entire team. And when McFadden gets injured again, either due to the same foot problems or from getting outright killed due to overuse, we'll be in that exact situation.

Also, it's apparent that both Knapp and Palmer were relying on DMC to carry the entire team. It sounds anti-instinctive but at this point the offense might do better without McFadden because it would force Knapp and Palmer to try and use the rest of the players. But that would take some creativity, something Knapp doesn't appear to have a lot of.

[cutthemdown]

Originally Posted by Bacillus Anthracis

But it was established years ago that McFadden is at his best in a power blocking system. The difference between his production in a ZBS compared to a PBS is night and day. And a coach has to cater to the ability of his players, something the current regime isn't willing to do. It's idiotic. Getting rid of the offense and special teams from last year was idiotic period. But that's a whole other topic.



On this we agree. I don't know if it was possible to trade McFadden for picks but I thought we should have done that (if possible) and kept Bush and Taiwan Jones and then acquired two more RBs and ran a utility back system. The days of the star running back are nearly over because an injury to such a player cripples the entire team. And when McFadden gets injured again, either due to the same foot problems or from getting outright killed due to overuse, we'll be in that exact situation.

Also, it's apparent that both Knapp and Palmer were relying on DMC to carry the entire team. It sounds anti-instinctive but at this point the offense might do better without McFadden because it would force Knapp and Palmer to try and use the rest of the players. But that would take some creativity, something Knapp doesn't appear to have a lot of.

So because you only have one good offensive weapon, you feel losing that would make other weapons emerge and the team would get better on offense? That is crazy. Without McFadden the Raiders have the worst offense in the NFL>

[cutthemdown]

Broncos will give Raiders a 2nd round pick for McFadden lol! Bring it on. He is so good obviously it makes the rest of your team look like crap. So trade him so the team will be uniformed **** all the way around.

[Black96WS6]

[Raider Bill]

Originally Posted by Bacillus Anthracis

But it was established years ago that McFadden is at his best in a power blocking system. The difference between his production in a ZBS compared to a PBS is night and day. And a coach has to cater to the ability of his players, something the current regime isn't willing to do. It's idiotic. Getting rid of the offense and special teams from last year was idiotic period. But that's a whole other topic.



.

You dont pin your entire orginizational philosophy on 1 player, aside from maybe a stud QB.

People are way too hung up on this man vs zone blocking. We did both last year, and a lot of those good runs McFadden had to the left resulted from Veldheer and Wiz, zoning their guy and Wiz peeling off and getting into the 2ns level.

It's not as big of an issue as you are making it. It's tougher to zone a 3-4 team because they want to play along the LOS and not penetrate, but not impossible, they just need more reps, because it is something you cant really practice live.

[enjolras]

More pictures of those two guys going at it, with video!

http://deadspin.com/5942608/some-fan...game/gallery/1

[Bronco Rob]

The Dolphins

[Kaylore]

0-2 to AFC West and AFC opponents no less. Way to go, Oakland.



"Commitment to camel toe!"

Originally Posted by Fight_On!

LMAO! Wait little man, so you're saying that I would be afraid to show up on a message board after my favorite team played horribly on national tv? Be real kid....SMH.

Cause all the other trolls disappear

[maven]

Here ya go Raidumb fans.

Originally Posted by maven

Here ya go Raidumb fans.

Stick that bag up your a$$! But yes the Raiders do suck.Greg Knapp has destroyed this O. When you can't put your best offensive player in a position to make plays.....you suck as an OC!

[broncocalijohn]

Well, one Raider fan came in. We going to see any others? Messin will forget all this crap and then smack talk before we play them.

[R8R H8R]

Originally Posted by enjolras

More pictures of those two guys going at it, with video!

http://deadspin.com/5942608/some-fan...game/gallery/1

That's awesome! The best pic is the one of the drunken chick that has one handcuff on and tries to hit the cop with it. The cop then tries to push her over the fence. Classic!

[Br0nc0Buster]

It is going to be a 2 team race between SD and Denver

Oakland and KC are both horrible

One of them has to win a game though as they play each other

The title of this thread is hilarious. Like calling the sky blue.

[maven]

Originally Posted by Fight_On!

Stick that bag up your a$$! But yes the Raiders do suck.Greg Knapp has destroyed this O. When you can't put your best offensive player in a position to make plays.....you suck as an OC!

Clown head coach? check

Clown offensive coordinator? check

Clown QB? check

Clown defense? check



You know you wanna wear it.

Originally Posted by maven

Clown head coach? check

Clown offensive coordinator? check

Clown QB? check

Clown defense? check



You know you wanna wear it.

Keep it, I'm sure your wife or girlfriend or boyfriend probably want you to keep for when your with them.

[cutthemdown]

Originally Posted by Fight_On!

Stick that bag up your a$$! But yes the Raiders do suck.Greg Knapp has destroyed this O. When you can't put your best offensive player in a position to make plays.....you suck as an OC!

When you only have one weapon its tough once defenses key on him. Plus Palmer a washed up never was.